RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 She will never be perfect due to the overlarge driving wheels and distorted body but I am curious to how far I can push her, so the change had to be made. Mike, you're pushing a woman much further than I dare, more power to your elbow!! Whilst I don't have a great interest in old kettles, I'm hooked on this excellent project, keep plodding on. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Emily is quite compliant, unlike the other woman in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Emily is quite compliant, unlike the other woman in my life. Does the other woman read RMWeb? If so, I'd start padding out your trousers and get prepared for a real pasting if she does! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 My son refers to RMWeb as my railway porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 My son refers to RMWeb as my railway porn. Rule 1 meets Rule 42? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Mike if only I had some successes to publish.....great modelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 Rule 1 meets Rule 42? 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Isit? But a towel might be useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 It's a bit harsh on the girl, forcing her to have yet more surgery while she's still getting used to smaller appendages than her originals. I hope she'll still be popular.... Quite right about that void above the slidebars though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crantock Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I agree that fabricating your own slidebars would be a worthwhile improvement. Though you might get somewhere by painting the relief on and where do you stop? Whilst there is clearly too big a gap between the slidebars and running plate, I think the slidebars might be a touch too low. I would expect the cylinder centre line to pass through the driven axle but think its a bit low. Too complicated to change. Perhaps we should have a whip round for a fresh body? You know that after developing the techniques on the prototype the best answer is to have a clear run from a clean sheet. Good luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 It's a bit harsh on the girl, forcing her to have yet more surgery while she's still getting used to smaller appendages than her originals. I hope she'll still be popular.... Are you referring to Emily or my other half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I agree that fabricating your own slidebars would be a worthwhile improvement. Perhaps we should have a whip round for a fresh body? Fabricating my own slidebars. But that would involve METALWORK. Yes I could do with a fresh body, but there is no need to get personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Hi...I'm enjoying this too....re-the slide bars? Are the bars on Emily simply too close together? Would changing the shape of the crosshead improve the illusion? [maybe using something from a scrap pile?] [is that a 'step' I see superglued to the prototype's cylinder top?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Are you referring to Emily or my other half? May I refer you to Francis Urquhart's favourite reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 To those of you wishing Emily "get well soon" I can report that she is over her major surgery and is starting to look like her old self, hopefully in improved form. With the sides and bottom of the boiler lowered I placed a piece of styrene in place then placed the cylinders to see how things would finally look. You are not seeing things, she was photographed laying on her back with her skirts in the air but I have rotated it to a more normal view: Having to deal with the front of the footplate it would be much easier if I did not have to contend with the frame extensions previously added, so they were removed: Here a new footplate section has been fitted from 2 layers of 20thou styrene exactly as before: I did mention that I could rebuild her, better than she was, so here is the new rivetted footplate overlay. I actually made a few mistakes in the previous one but managed to get it right this time. I also now have the finer pounce wheels to produce the rivets. The original holes drilled from underneath identify were the lampirons will eventually go: I am now going to leave her to cure overnight to see if there are any problems before continuing. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 "You are not seeing things, she was photographed laying on her back with her skirts in the air" Has she no shame ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Very impressed! If you can do major surgery as quick as that on beautiful ladies, you'll find supergluing new knees onto an ugly old git like me really easy money. dh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Mike concur with these posts great to see the lady looking better than ever....really enjoying this work.....i have to say and maybe im wrong, but i miss this sort of feature which used to be regularly shown in the popular mags....well they dont seem to show it very much if at all now....ok i appreciate forums like this fill that gap to an extent....just idle thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 i have to say and maybe im wrong, but i miss this sort of feature which used to be regularly shown in the popular mags....well they dont seem to show it very much if at all now....ok i appreciate forums like this fill that gap to an extent....just idle thoughts. Thanks. For some time I have found RMWeb hit the spots that the mags just dont seem to reach. I have gone somewhat overboard on recording the various stages so it is very much photo heavy, whereas the magazines can only feature a limited number due to space. It is also nice to get feedback comments and be able to raise/answer questions as they arise. It also helps not having to wait for a month until the next issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 One of the benefits of doing something for a second time is the ability to try something different. I was not overly happy with the way I produced the brass beading for the splashers last time around so this time I used a pair of dividers and scribed two circles (the larger first for obvious reasons) then re-adjusted and scribed the inner circle: The resulting circles could then be divided in two. The inconsistant thickness of the beading is an optical illusion caused by the parts refusing to lie flat when taking the photo: After careful trimming they were fixed in place with solvent: With the front footstep/running board slightly lower I have been able to add the top of the frames behind the cylinders, something missing from the original build: This time I have also added a rivetted overlay to the buffer beam as well as add the front frame extensions: When the footplate was rebuilt it was actually made with the two sides joined up. This was to keep the two sides aligned. Here is Emily revealing all again brazen hussey: Short work with a razor saw removes the bits that are no longer needed: So just to check everything now fits and lines up better this is how things now look: A long time ago in this thread I said that I thought the front lampirons were too short. New slightly longer ones have now been fitted and detailed as before as have the front frame extensions. Here is Emily after applying some slap: And from another angle. I think I am now back to the point when I took the knife to her before and there is probably only minor detailing to do. It is going to be difficult to put off attempting that lovely GNR livery for much longer: 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2015 I agree Mike. I always try to show every stage when I do something, this not only helps me remember what I'm doing when I come back to it, but helps those that are just starting out to see what they too can do. As for darling sweet Emily, she is looking the best she ever has done. I think she really suits her make over.... Andy G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2015 Bloody brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Mike any thoughts...tips on forming curves in the plastic used....I note the nice flowing curve under the splashers...was this created just by the solvent gluing to main body ? I am thinking of the curves found at the front of running plates..front frames...best wishes brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Mike any thoughts...tips on forming curves in the plastic used....I note the nice flowing curve under the splashers...was this created just by the solvent gluing to main body ? I am thinking of the curves found at the front of running plates..front frames...best wishes brian I use craft embossing tools as I did in this post: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/81902-completing-the-4mm-ner-6-wheel-coach/&do=findComment&comment=1351679 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 As someone said earlier "Are those steps superglued to the smokebox?" Yes, they feature on the smokebox and on the running plate, six in all. To make them I took some 10thou styrene and measured in 1.5mm and made a mark. What I wanted was to overlap a piece of 30thou up to the mark: Once laminated and set the 30thou was trimmed back to the edge of the 10thou thus: The edge of the 30thou was then bevelled with files/emery boards (sorry for it being out of focus): The 10thou was then cut leaving an overhang thus: The steps were chopped into appropriate lengths and attached to Emily: A job I have been putting off was making and fitting the front lampirons. These were made as for the tender ones however the one to go on the top of the smokebox had its "tail" at 45 degrees: Holes were carefully drilled as appropriate, one in Jason's chimney and the one on the top of the smokebox drilled at 45 degrees. For the pedantics amongst you it might have been 44 degrees or even 46 degrees. the lampirons have now been fitted but on examining the photos the one on top of the smokebox is sitting too far into the drilled hole. It has since been rectified: There are a couple of brackets that tie the top of the splashers to the boiler and these have been fashioned and added: Apart from the rear steps and drilling the buffer beam that is the body virtually finished: Another view of that errant lampiron: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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