RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2022 Thanks, How exactly does it work? does this sit on top of the rail or like a cassette fiddleyard requiring a line to feed into it? Based on those dimensions a twin set will be just too short (without end couplings the crane comes in at 280mm or so), but a triple should do the job even with the recessed ends. Modify it slightly with a cover for the top and the sides, and I have a secure, dust free storage for the crane when its not in use. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted January 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2022 This should help explain for you @The Fatadder 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2022 Width is going to be a slight issue given how close I have my fiddle yard roads set, however it looks like a set of 3 of the lifts will be the ideal solution to protecting the crane. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 28, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2022 9 hours ago, The Fatadder said: Thanks, How exactly does it work? does this sit on top of the rail or like a cassette fiddleyard requiring a line to feed into it? Based on those dimensions a twin set will be just too short (without end couplings the crane comes in at 280mm or so), but a triple should do the job even with the recessed ends. Modify it slightly with a cover for the top and the sides, and I have a secure, dust free storage for the crane when its not in use. 8 hours ago, Neal Ball said: This should help explain for you @The Fatadder It sits on top of the rails, Rich, with the copper strip making electrical contact. The overall shape is an inverted trough. Full measurements later. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 29, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Full measurements later. Right, here we go. Single unit - external Length 150mm Height 83mm Width 57mm* Single unit - internal (i.e. available space) Length 127mm Height 60mm Width 45mm* * these dimensions are with the device assembled for 16.5mm gauge. For 18.2, 12, 10.5 or 9mm gauges the width will be greater or smaller in proportion. Extended units - internal (i.e. available space) Double 277mm Triple 427mm Quadruple 577mm How do I know this? Because I was so impressed yesterday that I went back to Hobbyland (usual disclaimer) this morning and bought a double unit! Hope that helps. 3 3 6 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Single unit - external Width 57mm* That’s good. The old design fitted on 50mm spacing clear of trains on adjacent roads. At 80mm, it wouldn’t; at 57mm, it should. Paul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 A further loco lift question: the old ones would stack, do these new ones? Paul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 29, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, 5BarVT said: A further loco lift question: the old ones would stack, do these new ones? Paul. Yes. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted January 30, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) I've had a good think about the Polperran point control panel over the past few days. On balance, it's going to be simpler to build and use with the hinge at the top than at the bottom, not least because of the need to raise the whole thing up so that the open front wouldn't rest on the switches and LEDs and in turn I won't have to worry about them fouling the front fence. The open panel would also project beyond the baseboard edge, so would be vulnerable to accidental nudges. With the new design and the hinge at the top, the open panel will be vertical with the edge of the panel resting on the top of the rear of the frame (I think...). After some more trial but, I hope, less error I've put together the front panel, with its internal strengthening frame, and the rear panel. I couldn't set them up, as the glue's still drying, but here they are on the bench: The front is made from the usual 3mm white-faced MDF and measures 400mm x 170mm overall. The rear panel is shorter, as I will be adding 9mm ply "cheeks" at the sides to tidy the whole thing up. The framing on the back of the panel itself is set back at the sides, for the cheeks, and at the bottom because the panel will be at an angle of 45 degrees when assembled. The angled beading on the rear panel will carry the hinge, while the other piece of beading will reinforce the bottom edge of the front panel to spread the load and protect the edge of the MDF. Edited June 20, 2022 by St Enodoc Images restored 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 29/01/2022 at 01:09, St Enodoc said: Right, here we go. Single unit - external Length 150mm Height 83mm Width 57mm* Single unit - internal (i.e. available space) Length 127mm Height 60mm Width 45mm* * these dimensions are with the device assembled for 16.5mm gauge. For 18.2, 12, 10.5 or 9mm gauges the width will be greater or smaller in proportion. Extended units - internal (i.e. available space) Double 277mm Triple 427mm Quadruple 577mm How do I know this? Because I was so impressed yesterday that I went back to Hobbyland (usual disclaimer) this morning and bought a double unit! Hope that helps. Interesting. There would be enough space for S gauge prototypes, if the design allows the cradle to open widely enough. What is the maximum opening it can accommodate? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 30, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Regularity said: Interesting. There would be enough space for S gauge prototypes, if the design allows the cradle to open widely enough. What is the maximum opening it can accommodate? Not sure, Simon, but I think there'd be enough overlap between the two halves of the ends for the extra 6mm or so without compromising their integrity. You might have to drill new holes for the clamping screws though. Edited January 31, 2022 by St Enodoc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 2, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 Some interesting news overnight: https://www.Dapol.co.uk/OO-Gauge-GWR-Toplight-Mainline-City-Coaches-Announced I'll have to get my thinking cap on regarding these but the bit at the very bottom about future Toplight corridor coaches sounds very good. 4 5 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted February 3, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) I put my thinking cap on and soon took it off again, when I realised that there is almost no possibility that the Dapol Main Line & City stock would have made it to Cornwall, so I'll save my money for the corridor versions later. In other news, I've had a spare hour after work on a couple of days this week so I fitted the hinge to the Polperran point control panel and fixed it in place for a trial fit. I don't think there's any need to reinforce the bottom edge with the angled beading after all, as it and the inner ply frame (invisible in this view) rest nicely on the cork along their length. This view won't normally be seen, obviously, once the backscene goes up. I'll paint the whole of this face black once the whole panel is complete. The open front rests quite firmly on the back. This will make wiring quite straightforward. If you look closely, you will see that there are only four screws in the lower half of the hinge. That's because the screws that came with the hinge turned out to be made of cheese and the heads sheared off. For the rest, I found some better ones but had to shorten them to stop them poking through the panel front face. Edited June 20, 2022 by St Enodoc Images restored 22 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2022 You might want to replace the cork, where the front edge of the panel rests, with a strip of more substantial material - constant use of the panel may cause damage to the cork over time. Will you be adding side panels as well ? 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 3, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: You might want to replace the cork, where the front edge of the panel rests, with a strip of more substantial material - constant use of the panel may cause damage to the cork over time. Will you be adding side panels as well ? Yes, Stu, there will be side panels or "cheeks". I'll cut them to fit rather than from a drawing, which might get done this weekend. That's an interesting thought about the cork. It will be a simple matter to replace a narrow strip with MDF. Thanks. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 hours ago, St Enodoc said: made of cheese and the heads sheared off You may have thought them to be countersunk, but they turned out to be cheesehead… 2 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted February 4, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) I fitted the side cheeks today. Now, my woodworking skills are closer to those of a first-fix carpenter than of a cabinet maker, so despite all my measuring and checking there is a small (2mm) gap at the bottom of the left-hand cheek. Too late to do anything about it now I'm afraid. Apart from that, everything went well and the ply framing of the front panel is a friction fit between the cheeks (ooer missus...) and the whole assembly is nice and sturdy. Still to do is Stubby's Rubbing Plate. I haven't decided whether I really need it yet or, if I do, how wide to make it. Watch this space. I marked the positions of the 11 push-buttons - five on the left, five on the right and one near the middle then rounded off the afternoon by digging out the push-buttons and other electrical parts. I'll fit the push-buttons first, which will let me find the best place for the Mini Panel. After that I'll mark out the positions for the rotary switch and four LEDs that will form the "First-Come-First-Served Single Line Tokenless Block" part of the panel. Edited June 20, 2022 by St Enodoc Images restored 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) Ah, now you have the cheeks, a rubbing plate is probably not necessary. (Taken out of context, that is a very weird statement). Edited February 4, 2022 by Stubby47 3 2 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 20 hours ago, St Enodoc said: there is a small (2mm) gap at the bottom of the left-hand cheek. Intentionally left to provide ventilation to an enclosed space. Shirley. 2 1 1 1 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) I have to admit to unashamedly copying your design of control panel. Hinged at the top, with a 9mm ply back & cheeks. Power is fed from the braided USB cable. It is only placed on the layout for photographic purposes- no rubbing strip required. Edited February 5, 2022 by Stubby47 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2022 Judging by the tail hanging out, you appear to have a metal rodent inside your panel… 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted February 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2022 The stainless steel rat maybe? 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrMan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Regularity said: Judging by the tail hanging out, you appear to have a metal rodent inside your panel… So that's what happened to my armoured mouse! Lloyd 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Graham T said: The stainless steel rat maybe? 5 hours ago, FarrMan said: So that's what happened to my armoured mouse! Graham wins the prize for erudition today. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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