dave1905 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The industry could use any combination of boxcars and reefers (1950's would be a mix of ice and mechanical cars). If you wanted to use gons (a mix of 46 and 52-6 cars) one could say the overhead crane is inside the building and spot the gons inside (inbound to the inside spot, outbound to the outside spots). It might be coil or sheet steel in gons inbound (company that makes appliances or metal stampings) or coils of wire (company that makes nails, bolts or other hardware). If you are modeling the winter you will have a footpath worn in the snow beside the cars, so a couple feet outside the the ends of the ties. There would be a broom next to the switch to clean out the points. The only area plowed clean would be where there is truck/road traffic. The tracks would have a up to a couple inches of snow above the rails other than where the people walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) One small thought - I know they are un-common-ish in USA, but is it worth swapping the diamond for a double or single slip? http://archive.carendt.com/microplans/pages/shelf/sectorplate/index.html#2 (Box Street) Edited January 7, 2015 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Daniel - Definately a good idea! Dave - Yes I will go with sheet steel or coiled wire for the gons. So a lot of snow still on the ground between the rails and areas not really accessed. Excellent. What would you recommend for the best snow product? Jack - I thought about a slip point a la Box Street, but I went for the diamond as it reduces cost and means I don't need so many point motors and switches. Plus a slip takes up more room. Edited January 7, 2015 by Robatron86 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Both Woodland Scenics and Noch make snow effects. There was an Alpine layout at exhibitions up here in the frozen North - which had large snowcovered area with skiers, chairlifts etc - they used bare plaster, and simply painted it with white-wash - giving it another coat when it started to look dirty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If it's a furniture factory, you'd get a Gon spotted there for extended periods for the workers to fill with wood waste, smashed open boxes, metal crate banding, failed builds, etc. The great thing about that is that you'd have to work around it - once it's in place you could have a "do not move" or "return to spot" type order on it, so either you have to avoid moving it at all, or if you needed to move it to switch cars you need to make sure it goes back to where you found it - depending on the order on the car, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I wouldn't think you would have a gon loaded with waste unless the waste was worth something. For example an industry I served recieved gons of steel rods and milled them into axles and drive shafts. They had a gon outside the building to load the shavings to be sold as scrap. The wheel true machine at the rail yard at N Platte has the same thing. A chute coming out of the building that shavings dumps into. I wouldn't necessarily think wood would fall into that category, unless it was sawdust which would be a different type of gon than a regular mill gon. I would think the waste would be burned in the plant furnace (especially in winter) or trucked out. I have never modeled snow, so I have no experience with what material work best to replicate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Thanks for the input chaps. I think I will stick to the idea of raw materials coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Jack - I've been watching the Woodland Scenics YouTube channel and their video showing how to put a frozen lake scene together was fantastic. How to create icicles, snow banks and standing frozen water. All very helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Klyzlr Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Dear Daniel, Quick reply whilst I remember - I'm gonna go back over this thread and read it all from the start - but if you are planning urban switching in winter, you should totally get an etched brass manhole cover and stick a small smoke machine under it to represent steaming sewers! Been and done, google "Brooklyn : 3AM"... ;-) Happy Modelling,Aim to Improve,Prof Klyzlr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Dear Prof, Where do you think I got the idea? Your layout is and forever will be a MASSIVE source of inspiration to me. Cheers, Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Noch Winter products are in the series 0875x 08750 snow powder 08752 snow paste 08754 ice crystals 08756 icicles 08758 winter set 08760 snowflakes If you want more details let me have your email address Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thanks Jack. That's very helpful. I will do some research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 So tonight I did a quick mock up of the layout: It seems I have most of the track already available - bar the crossing - and it all seems to work. In other news, I have been experimenting with some weathering. Thanks for looking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Weathering is best done in light coats and gradually build up to heavy. A little weathering goes a long way. Look at a picture of a car, notice what the weathering is, and then copy those effects. I like to start off with about half what I think its should be. Its easy to add weathering, its really hard to "clean" a car. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) The boxcar was done with light washes, mixing the original box car colour that I matched into the wash to tone it down. I have seen several box cars on the SF in this condition. Not completely ruined but dirty. Edited January 12, 2015 by Robatron86 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Once the trucks are that lovely oily grimy colour they will look spot on. I'd recommend having a look for some Tamiya weathering powders too, and use them for specific rust streaks, oil stains, etc. Nice work dude! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Thanks chap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 So I had the urge to paint something: This to be precise. I got this as part of a job lot a while ago. I decided it wasn't far off this: So in one evening: Not bad. My caboose transfers appear to have taken leave, so I when I find them I will finish it. Thanks for looking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Hi Rob, I remember reading in MR that Athearn caboose is modelled on an ATSF prototype like this one; http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-C2020dsa.jpg Nick Edited January 15, 2015 by doctor quinn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 That's spot on Nick! Thank you for finding that. I think I will base my model on that one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Completed my caboose last night. I also replaced the molded curve hand rails with fine wire. I had to change the number from the photo as I didn't the right amount of number 2's!. I also added glazing. Thanks for looking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Might have already been asked but do you use an airbrush to pain stock? Caboose looks awesome btw! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thanks mate. It depends on the colour. White and yellow I airbrush. Most colours I water down slightly and hand brush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Latest update. Board is nearly ready... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robatron86 Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Latest pictorial update: The board has been topped with thick art card, track position finalised, and building and road positions sketched onto the board. I've decided not to attempted a traverser, instead I am borrowing Shortliner Jack's idea and building a double Peco lift. Much easier! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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