Chris71 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hi ive bought an Bachmann class 55 sound loco , im not happy with the sound and was thinking of sending it to be reblown and a bass speaker to be put into the fuel tanks. Have anyone of you had one done if so who's best to get it done from ie howes/SWD etc. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Here's my SWD Deltic fitted with bass reflex speaker as well as the 40 x 20 standard speaker. Much better than the Bachmann set up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18nGObWTM9Q This sound chip now has great flange squeal on F9, - no notching though, don't miss that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris71 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 Spoke to a lady from SWD this afternoon, didnt get her name but she said they are not doing any 55 deltics projects at the moment ????? and said ring back in 2 weeks. I dont know if they are bogged down with orders or something but il give Howes a ring tomorrow as they were closed today as it was a wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 10, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2010 howes don't do a deltic so i wouldn't bother phoning them, bryan says he won't be doing one either!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris71 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 Looks like i might have to try olivas as far as i know they charge ??10 for a reblow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 838rapid Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I should wait for SWD to reblow your chip. SWD sounds through a bass reflex speaker is the 1 I chose and i havent looked back. Tried Olivias and it was a major disappointment to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Digital Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I have the South West Digital Class 55 sound decoder in my "O" Gauge Porterbrook Deltic and it is absolutely superb I do know South West Digital are very busy at the moment. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbamoss Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Hi ive bought an Bachmann class 55 sound loco , im not happy with the sound and was thinking of sending it to be reblown and a bass speaker to be put into the fuel tanks. Have anyone of you had one done if so who's best to get it done from ie howes/SWD etc. Cheers Gotta go with Rapid, SWD all the way the sound is awesome even on basic dc! The nice lady is Caroline. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY DIESEL Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I belive the SWD Deltic has no notching, what is the responce to the throttle like? Is it delayed like the Bachy one or is it thrash more or less on lap like Howes re blows etc. Thanks Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I belive the SWD Deltic has no notching, what is the responce to the throttle like? Is it delayed like the Bachy one or is it thrash more or less on lap like Howes re blows etc. Thanks Stu Stu, No notching, but has flange squeal, drives like the real thing, coasts very well, engine cut in and out on throttle, both engines growl - overall its much better than the Bachmann original and is very loud as well. As mine is fitted with two speakers I had to turn the volume to 25 - this model is great to 'drive', I would say more suited to tailchaser type of layouts than end to end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Main thing is that you have to learn how to drive it. The driving instruction paragraph on the sheet that comes with the chip is very detailed and the longest I've seen on any sound chip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY DIESEL Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Thanks Cassey & LNER Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Digital Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hi ive bought an Bachmann class 55 sound loco , im not happy with the sound and was thinking of sending it to be reblown and a bass speaker to be put into the fuel tanks. Have anyone of you had one done if so who's best to get it done from ie howes/SWD etc. Cheers I have put some videos of my "O" Gauge Class 55 on my Willaston Road Thread. Hope this is of help. Link to Willaston Road Thread Caroline at South West Digital is very helpful I am sure she will be able to help you get the decoder reblown. It is definately worth the wait. Regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted February 12, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hi ive bought an Bachmann class 55 sound loco , im not happy with the sound and was thinking of sending it to be reblown and a bass speaker to be put into the fuel tanks. Have anyone of you had one done if so who's best to get it done from ie howes/SWD etc. Cheers Hi, as has been mentioned try changing the speaker first as the Bachmann set up is awful. Its is just screwed to a plastic bit with holes in it. No proper enclosure. I have added a 50x40mm (think thats the size of it) bass reflex in the tanks and a 40x20mm bass enhanced in the top under the fans at one end. It improves the sound no end (my opionin) i would suggest trying changing the speakers first then if you are still not happy then get the chip re-blown. cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris71 Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Update - posted it of on tuesday 16/2/10 to SWD,just waiting to see how long it will be before i get it back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
s182ggu Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hi I have also tried Olivia's Deltic sound project and it is just awful, even worse than the Bachmann original! So today, I have just received a new chip from SWD and am going to fit a Bass Reflex in the tanks and a Bass Enhanced under the fans to see how that pans out. Of interest I was looking at a layout called Oldham King Street (http://www.freewebs.com/oldhamkingstreet) at an exhibition at the weekend. It is a small O Gauge DCC layout and due to the physical size of the locos and the larger speaker size, the sounds are just awsome - I particularly liked the Peak and the Class 40. Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hi I have also tried Olivia's Deltic sound project and it is just awful, even worse than the Bachmann original! So today, I have just received a new chip from SWD and am going to fit a Bass Reflex in the tanks and a Bass Enhanced under the fans to see how that pans out. Of interest I was looking at a layout called Oldham King Street (http://www.freewebs.com/oldhamkingstreet) at an exhibition at the weekend. It is a small O Gauge DCC layout and due to the physical size of the locos and the larger speaker size, the sounds are just awsome - I particularly liked the Peak and the Class 40. Enjoy! It sounds even better if you can get to an exhibition were it is being shown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris71 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Got it back today and tested the sounds very happy with it just a few differences in the sound, one its a better quality recording and the notching up and down is lost but you gain flange squeal wich is nice. But im happy with the new sounds worth the wait Here's the list to compare: ORIGINAL ----- SWD F0 DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS ----- F0 DIRECTIONAL LIGHTSF1 SOUND ON/OF ----- F1 SOUND ON/OFF2 SINGLE HORN ----- F2 SINGLE HORNF3 DOUBLE HORN ----- F3 DOUBLE HORNF4 AIRBRAKE ----- F4 AIRBRAKEF5 NOTCHING UP ----- F5 GUARDS WHISTLEF6 NOTCHING DOWN ----- F6 COUPLINGF7 SHUNTING SPEED ON/OF ----- F7 AUX 1F8 CABLIGHTS (AUX1) ----- F8 AUX 2F9 GUARDS WHISTLE ----- F9 FLANGE SQUEALF10 SPIRAX VALVE ----- F10 AIR DRYERF11 VOLUME CONTROL ----- F11 SHUNTING MODE----------------------------------------- F12 CV 3,4 ON/OF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 So the cab lights have been replaced by Aux2. Can you switch them on and of with F8 without having to use the ESU programming unit to re-assign them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Cablights are on AUX1. so instead of using F8 to turn them on/off you use F7 instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
s182ggu Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi My SWD Deltic chip arrived yesterday and my intention was to fit a Bass Reflex in the fuel tanks and a Bass Enhanced in the roof space. I sometime wonder why I bother planning!! Neither speaker would fit in their planned locations!! So ... Plan 2 - stripped the loco right down, removed the wieght from the fuel tanks and fitted 2x Base Enhanced speakers in the fuel tank space. Had to do a very small amount of plastic carving to accomodate the speakers which were then held in place with Black Tac. Ran the speaker wires back up to the circuit board by using one of the central fixing screw channels. Re-assembled. Connected up and tested. Initial impressions after 10 mins running. This sound file is the 'DB's'! Two engine start up sequences - a real Whoomph as the motors start. With the 2x Bass Enhanced fitted, you hear a much broader range of sounds than on the Olivia's offerring and also the Bachmann original. I'm really pleased so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 The bass refelx will fit in the fuel tanks. You have to carry out sergery on the center rib of the tanks and cut a small amount from the bottom of the chassis weight (I removed the motor from mine to stop shards of metal getting in) but it will fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 18, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2010 You know, if sales of the Class 14 project go well I might just have to lob an SWD Deltic chip into my Deltic Prototype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted March 19, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hi My SWD Deltic chip arrived yesterday and my intention was to fit a Bass Reflex in the fuel tanks and a Bass Enhanced in the roof space. I sometime wonder why I bother planning!! Neither speaker would fit in their planned locations!! So ... Plan 2 - stripped the loco right down, removed the wieght from the fuel tanks and fitted 2x Base Enhanced speakers in the fuel tank space. Had to do a very small amount of plastic carving to accomodate the speakers which were then held in place with Black Tac. Ran the speaker wires back up to the circuit board by using one of the central fixing screw channels. Re-assembled. Connected up and tested. Initial impressions after 10 mins running. This sound file is the 'DB's'! Two engine start up sequences - a real Whoomph as the motors start. With the 2x Bass Enhanced fitted, you hear a much broader range of sounds than on the Olivia's offerring and also the Bachmann original. I'm really pleased so far. Hi, the speakers you mention will fit it just takes some work and removal of some plastic from the tanks and the body as mentioned. I have fitted this mod to about 7 locos now and it just takes time to do. BEFORE YOU START TO DO ANYTHING - put some super glue over the mounting pips for the cab lights as they are very easy to knock off the mount. The bass reflex speaker to use in the tanks is the 58 X 22. This is the same thickness as the 20x40 one. If you use the thinner, fat one it wont fit. The tanks take a lot of time as you have to remove the central block and then carfully sand down the bottom till you can fit the speaker in level with the top of the lip that runs along each side of the tanks. This will take time, can't say this enough as some people give up and try to force the speaker in and that in turn means the motor is under pressure once it is all squeezed together. The speaker on top will need the fan surrounds removing completly. I used the same end as the original speaker and just cleaned all the mounting points and surronds out. The corners of the speaker (if using bassed enhanced) will need filing slightly to make sure it sits in the hole as close down as possible. The wiring will need gently re-routing around the speaker. After that it is easy to reassemble the loco and fire her up. You do need to turn the sound level down to about 30/40 and just keep an eye on the temp of the chip as a couple i have worked on have got a bit on the warm side for my liking. hope this helps someone who wants to do the speaker upgrade and if you get stuck drop me a pm and i can hopefully help cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hi ive bought an Bachmann class 55 sound loco , im not happy with the sound and was thinking of sending it to be reblown and a bass speaker to be put into the fuel tanks. Have anyone of you had one done if so who's best to get it done from ie howes/SWD etc. Cheers Hi Chris, You might be interested in this. This is my Bachmann Deltic fitted with an SWD chip and bass speaker... Cheers, Dave Waverley West Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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