RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 Many will remember so years ago the government had a scheme whereby cars were scrapped if the owners bought a new one. The cars were supposed to be crushed but apparently many of them still languish on old airfields. I found this petition on a classic car website to have them auctioned off and restored. There were many cases at the time of rare and interesting vehicles going for scrap http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/75232 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 If you're wondering what's there... https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/357672/bis-foi-2014-20775-scrapped-vehicles-supporting-data.csv/preview Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 That's incredible, just the first page has some excellent vehicles. Are these all still extant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2015 For your information there was a similar scheme in Germany, but there any vehicle over 25 years old were excluded from the scheme. It wasn't done in the UK because the dealers complained that it would be to complicated to sort them out. In the UK you can generally tell the age of a vehicle by just reading the registration, in Germany you can't, go figure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I've no idea how many are left. Presumably they've chewed through a good number of them since 2009. Google isn't showing up anything recent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 And it was those lazy dealers that made money out of the scheme! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 I've no idea how many are left. Presumably they've chewed through a good number of them since 2009. Google isn't showing up anything recent. That's a shame, I can see whats going to happen the cars will be available for auction but all that will remain will be six ten year old Mondeo's! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Do you think they'll give me one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 A few pictures here from 2011. A split screen moggie and a forlorn A40 with a window full of owners club stickers. http://www.urbexforums.com/showthread.php/12139-Scrappage-Scheme-Grave-Yard-March-2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 A few pictures here from 2011.A split screen moggie and a forlorn A40 with a window full of owners club stickers.http://www.urbexforums.com/showthread.php/12139-Scrappage-Scheme-Grave-Yard-March-2011 How did it go from being so loved to that!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Sorry to be pedantic but it's an A35, not anA40. There must loads of cars there that could be returned to use easily and cheaply. And think of all those spares!!! steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Sorry to be pedantic but it's an A35, not anA40. Yeah, I always mix them up. I shall now say 'Robin Reliant' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I remember the period well and seeing photographs published of cars that should never have been scrapped. It was a criminal waste of material – so much for the so called green policies. My daily driver is a 25 year old car, it won't last forever unless I have the body work restored but some of those cars weren't even at a half-life stage. Very wasteful and shameful in my view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2015 Who is now the legal owner? The government or the dealers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Who is now the legal owner? The government or the dealers. There'll be much buck-passing if you ask that question.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 I would have thought it would be the government unless they got some private company to manage it which is often the norm these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Who is now the legal owner? The government or the dealers. Paid for at over the odds with your tax money. You should be able to walk up and take a couple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2015 They are on the internet so they must be free....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 How did it go from being so loved to that!! Deceased estate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted March 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2015 However thought car scrappage was a good idea should be strung up I saw some nice cars in those articles. On a car forum I was a member of, a scrappage pervert was rightly treated with abuse (scrappage scheming a decent condition car of the type the forum was about). Scrap your decent condition older car which kept mechanics in work and buy some Korean cheap thing. Not good for UK industry, nor heritage, a moronic idea badly implemented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Just consider the pollution caused by an older "scrappage" car being used. Yes, not as clean as a new-build car. BUT- consider the pollution caused by building that new car (and indeed, scrapping the old one). Much cleaner to keep the old one going,(and properly maintained, though sadly that is something many people forget), so in reality the scrappage scheme is a sop by the Govt. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted March 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2015 Just to clarify, by Korean I am not having a go, just that Korean cars were the most popular to be bought in the scrappage scheme. How exactly did this help the UK car industry? There was a line of Land Rover products, they need spares, many of them made in this country. Hence my stringing up comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted March 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2015 Just consider the pollution caused by an older "scrappage" car being used. Yes, not as clean as a new-build car. BUT- consider the pollution caused by building that new car (and indeed, scrapping the old one). Much cleaner to keep the old one going,(and properly maintained, though sadly that is something many people forget), so in reality the scrappage scheme is a sop by the Govt. Stewart It also ruined the decent second hand car market by removing a large number of well maintained (just who could afford to swap for new?) cars of that age a lot of people can afford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Land Rovers are now being stolen to provide parts for "overseas owners", especially the outgoing Defender model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2015 Only one Austin Maxi. Only four Allegros. Two models I've owned and one the former outlasted two of the latter! The Aggro (as they were often known) was OK as a cheap economical get-to-work machine. The Maxi felt like a tank, guzzled fuel like one and nothing was going to stop it. Until the linkage in the box expired leaving me with no 1st or 2nd in a nice hilly area and some deft route-planning and a little clutch-slipping to pull away in third and never have to risk stopping at traffic lights halfway up a hill. None of those would have gone for scrappage had I still got them. The MoT saw off the Allegros (one replaced another and was itself replaced with a Metro) but the Maxi just kept going ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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