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Show me the link to the ad for them on the ModelOkits site and I will believe you Marty.

Yes, they were no doubt in the box of moulds he bought from Peter but until they have castings to sell they are not available.

 

Meanwhile back at the ranch.

Here are the temporary bogies until the day the correct Dean type bogies are on offer again.

 

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I might add a couple more bits to them or maybe just leave them as they are. They loosely represent the 8' w/b 2AJ bogie.

cheers

Bob

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They had virtually nothing when I visited last year Martin. Their website is well out of date, particularly in the O scale section.

 

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Bob

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Yes, I think you are right Chris. Being close to other bogie designs used by the NSWGR I think the carriage will be more than adequate as it travels around my outdoor layout.

Certainly made use of a set of bogie frames I wondered if had been a waste of money to buy.

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Bob

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On 07/05/2019 at 23:31, robertc said:

Currently no bogies are available for this carriage, although they were once.

Until they become available again or I scratch up a set, I am modifying a set of modern ones of unknown origin from the scrap box into a general NSWGR type bogie.

 

 

 

 

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Bob

 

Lima bogies, I think.

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Probably the last double header needed for three years. :>)

The reality is that even the heavy brass 49 cannot pull the mail smoothly on the loops on its own. The mail rake is heavy and has modified Col Shepherd bogies which are a bit draggy.

Now running with my BPRC 44 class at the head end.

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Bob

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Received a nice little present from friends whose dog I fed while they were away in the UK for a holiday.

 

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Looks nice on the garage wall up near the layout.

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Bob

 

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Thanks Chris, haven't got to open it yet.  Just got back from WA a day late. I thought a 3 hour gap would be long enough but we arrived 3hours and 15mins late, The train for home left 12mins before I got to Central.  :>(

 

Nev's US layout on Friday.

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Exhibition Saturday and Sunday.

Not much O but lots of Large scale and S scale.

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Ralphs on Monday. British, LMS oriented.

 

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Nev and Ralph were both fine hosts making my trip very special.

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Bob

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No finescale O gauge layouts at Adelaide but a couple of gems to be seen on a modelling table.

 

 

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3D printed SAR locos with a pommie steamer in the background (builder also models British in 7mm).

Mechs are from NWSL.

These SAR models in 1/4", although I thought I heard one onlooker state he built his in 7mm which is unusual?

 

cheers

Bob

 

 

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On 09/06/2019 at 18:42, robertc said:

No finescale O gauge layouts at Adelaide but a couple of gems to be seen on a modelling table.

 

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3D printed SAR locos with a pommie steamer in the background (builder also models British in 7mm).

Mechs are from NWSL.

These SAR models in 1/4", although I thought I heard one onlooker state he built his in 7mm which is unusual?

 

cheers

Bob

 

 

 

I believe that with 1/4" scale the use S gauge track standards (7/8" or 22.25mm) to represent the 3'6" narrow gauge and American O gauge (1-1/4" or 31.75mm) to represent the standard and/or broad gauge.

There are standards out there for 7mm scale 3'0", metre and 3'6" gauge, using 21mm, 22.25mm and 24.5mm gauge tracks respectively. In fact, I had a 7mm scale TGR U class diesel shunter kit which I had modified to 24.5mm gauge, but it went missing from the back of a friend's car several years ago.

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I have not come across anyone using On42 in SA or WA Martin. Peter K tried it in Qld and had very little interest.

Larger than HO modelling is usually G1 or 1/2" scale (if modelling 3'6") in Australia. I can count the Australian prototype 2-rail 32mm gauge O scale layouts around the country on my fingers.

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Bob

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When it comes to 1n42 modelling Ralph Holden has lead the way for many years.

Ralphs work shows what can be achieved with tin cans, tie wire and a 6'x4' sheet of brass (or two).

 

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While similar scale/gauge ideas are now common in NZ with their 9mm scale modelling, Ralph is only one of three I am aware of modelling 3'6" gauge railways in Australia in gauge one narrow gauge. 

Ralph models what was outside his door in the 1960's, the prototype no longer runs.

cheers

Bob

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Here are a couple more snaps from my visit to the EPD.

 

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It is quite obvious that Ralph chose to work to a high standard from day one. The models are equal to any made in the world.

Being a fan of G0 and G1 Ralph's models hold an extra appeal to me.

 

I travelled about 5000km by car for my trip to visit friends and relatives. Adelaide, Alice Springs and Townsville before heading back home to NSW.

I think I have had enough of 10-11 hour drives for a while.

I think my decision to purchase a satnav before the trip was one of my smarter decisions however.

cheers

Bob

 

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You got it right Martin.

Gauge one is circa 1:32 and he is modelling 3'6" gauge. The Kiwis use 9mm which makes the scale gauge combination a little closer than 3/8" or 10mm normally used for G1 but it is just hair splitting.

It is only in recent years that the availability of 12mm track, wheels and mechs have made it possible for those whose standard gauge was 3'6"  to easily make use of HO scale and all the detail bits available. Many in SA used HOn3 because they could get track from Shinohara and wheels from the USA before 12mm stuff came on the market. Sn42 was once the norm in other states but now only holds sway in WA. Many of the QR modellers have gone to HOn42 and Tassie is split between OO and HO with few choosing S scale nowadays.

So when Ralph started there were really only two choices, use HO or O gauge track and wheels and adjust the scale to suit. To go with other gauges and make use of a common scale would have meant designing and building your own track to your own standards and making your own wheelsets.

I have a couple of 3'6" projects I would like to do and while originally intended as an adjunct to my former S gauge NSWGR layout I suspect if they do get built they will be in 1n42. I have no desire to make one of my loops dual gauge.

cheers

Bob

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