Jessy1692's bits & pieces- Coaching stock and wagon bashing stuff with the odd loco

[ColinK]

Great work as usual.  Nice variety of coaches.

[jessy1692]

Afternoon all, update from the carriage shops for you. I had a day off yesterday from work and thankfully the lining arrived along with some Sleeping Car branding from Fox so duly set to work before heading out for the afternoon.

 

 

I was up early this morning so finished off the long lining so letting that go off and I'll do the corners tomorrow. Also some Railtec transfers arrived today for the mk1 sleepers and the PMV, I splashed out on some parcels/newspaper van transfers too so have the blue BG I did last year here to letter up.

Aim for this lot is to get the varnish out on Monday and get them up to the layout but iv just remembered I'm awaiting buffers for a few so some will stay back. Next projects lined up and I'll have to dig out the soldering iron...

 

More soon, hope everyone is enjoying the weather!

Cheers

James

Edited May 27, 2023 by jessy1692

[jessy1692]

Oh and the red Bullied is up at the layout trundling about in a very mixed rake. I'm glad it runs OK as I had a bit of a fight with the bogies, one of them jobs you need 3 hands for... need to add some curtains too and possible an interior one day

[davidw]

37 minutes ago, jessy1692 said:

Oh and the red Bullied is up at the layout trundling about in a very mixed rake. I'm glad it runs OK as I had a bit of a fight with the bogies, one of them jobs you need 3 hands for... need to add some curtains too and possible an interior one day

An eastern region allocated Bullied?

[jessy1692]

10 minutes ago, davidw said:

An eastern region allocated Bullied?

Oh yes, I think it was 1967 the Southern Region and Eastern and Scottish did a coach swap, the Southern getting mk1s for conversion into units and Bullied SO's going the other way. Off top of my head I can't remember how many but a there were a few. Maybe 20 or so between Eastern and Scottish and some even stayed green i think.

 

Edit, found my notes:

The Bulleid SOs transferred away from the Southern Region retained the same numbers but the first letter was changed to suit the region transferred to:

1467/69/70/72/74/86/91/99/505 were S****S and became E****S

1466/71/79/82/84/89/95/98/500/02/04 were S****S and became Sc****S

Some of these were repainted into lined Maroon and the new prefixes applied before transfer

Edited May 27, 2023 by jessy1692

[davidw]

1 minute ago, jessy1692 said:

Oh yes, I think it was 1967 the Southern Region and Eastern and Scottish did a coach swap, the Southern getting mk1s for conversion into units and Bullied SO's going the other way. Off top of my head I can't remember how many but a there were a few. Maybe 20 or so between Eastern and Scottish and some even stayed green i think

Thanks I model ECML 1960ish I thought I had an excuse. Ivey often thought of a set of Bullieds on an interregional working.

[jessy1692]

15 minutes ago, davidw said:

Thanks I model ECML 1960ish I thought I had an excuse. Ivey often thought of a set of Bullieds on an interregional working.

No probs, note sure on ECML inter regional but I'm sure it happened, certainly seen pics but if you ever need to renumber/repaint any iv just added list of numbers to the above post. Only thing I fell foul of was the double rainstorms, the one I planned to do Sc1500S I only realised had the double rain strips after I'd painted it! I hope 1505 doesn't as I just picked that as I had E1505 already on a transfer sheet!

Edited May 27, 2023 by jessy1692

[Moxy]

11 minutes ago, jessy1692 said:

Edit, found my notes:

The Bulleid SOs transferred away from the Southern Region retained the same numbers but the first letter was changed to suit the region transferred to:

1467/69/70/72/74/86/91/99/505 were S****S and became E****S

1466/71/79/82/84/89/95/98/500/02/04 were S****S and became Sc****S

Some of these were repainted into lined Maroon and the new prefixes applied before transfer

 

Thank you for that list. I am modelling a Scottish branchline featuring one of these ex-Southern Bulleids & and I had only found 1466 & 1482. Good to know the rest of the numbers involved.

[jessy1692]

2 minutes ago, Moxy said:

 

Thank you for that list. I am modelling a Scottish branchline featuring one of these ex-Southern Bulleids & and I had only found 1466 & 1482. Good to know the rest of the numbers involved.

No trouble, I'm not sure exactly how accurate the list is, I think i got it off a site that was marketing RTR O gauge ones of them. Glad it's a help, I'd love to know if any remained green.

 

Cheers

James

[jessy1692]

Evening all, so it's been a fairly steady week, lots of lining done and numbering etc. Most done last weekend and the sleepers last night, I needed a day or two off to process the leeds relegation but it's a good distraction!

Anyway, current state of play as below, rail strike has put payed to my plans for tomorrow so have a free day so will be weathering and varnishing in the sun all being well. Then onto the rare (to me) medium of brass....

 

So we have a selection of mk1 sleepers, I only have two so have varied the sides between second, first and comp.

 

Thompson SLBSK, iv assumed it had the 'sleeping car' branding, waiting to be proved wrong. Roof just about to be coated again and gangways painted black this eve. Also reminds me I need to dismantle the maroon one I have to paint chassis up.

 

PMV lettered as per a pic I found, looks about right.

 

Gresley sleeper, slightly fictitious but numbered correctly I think?

 

Nightcap bar, pretty much done, really like this coach and was fun to build from the Southern Pride kit.

 

Blue BG, good to get this lettered up, I think I sprayed it up this time last year and it's been awaiting some finishing. It's due either new wheels or bogies.

Mainline RBR renumbered and partially repainted to cover scratches, not bad for a 4 quid fixer upper.

BSO lettered up, nice addition to the B&G rake coaching stock.

 

Fingers crossed for decent weather and free time tomorrow to get this batch up to the layout.

 

Cheers

James

Edited June 1, 2023 by jessy1692

[John76]

On 02/05/2023 at 23:27, jessy1692 said:

Evening all, apologies I missed doing a post it seems of thr Airfix tankers we have been bashing about to make the longer class A ones. These tanks have been made up from second hand ones picked up cheap from various places so there are some odd mistakes on the chassis etc but the barrels got stretched OK.

 

Only things I have added are the RT Models etched walk ways and the very fine ladders, then a coat of humbrol dove grey and black washes before CCT transfers for them.

 

3 out of 5 done tonight, hopefully get them all done and varnished for the weekend.

 

More projects coaching stock projects looming after these.

Cheers

James

James

 

I trust you are well. I really  like these and am planning to do some myself. You say you have used Humbrol Dove Grey but a quick google search seemed to draw a blank??? Was it one of the little tins and did it have a number?

 

John

[jessy1692]

15 hours ago, John76 said:

James

 

I trust you are well. I really  like these and am planning to do some myself. You say you have used Humbrol Dove Grey but a quick google search seemed to draw a blank??? Was it one of the little tins and did it have a number?

 

John

Morning John, keeping well thanks just been far too busy recently with various things which had kept the modelling to a minimum.

Just found the tin, it's a very old tin let of humbrol 40 which they call pale grey but it looks bang on for class A tanks once varnished to take away the glossyness.

 

Hope this helps, iv got a couple more ready for painting so your message has been a reminder to get more ladders ordered!

 

Cheers

James

[jessy1692]

Afternoon all, its certainly been a busy couple of months for me doing loads of stuff around the house but very little on the various train projects, however, the paints are back out so something to share:

The Harrogate Gas Works Railway Barber kit has got a coat of primer today and I'm just about to test out a green I have in stock for it. I saw the real loco was out on the South Tynedale yesterday after some work and it's cab and chimney extension- not a fan! 

The Green it's in now is the original Thomas Green Green which is very bright, my model is loosely based on the loco in later life after overhaul at hunslet so assuming a darker, hunslet green used. The worksplates I ordered from Narrow Planet are here too so not much to stop.me getting it finished.

 

Also I got my Dads coaches weathered and varnished up this last week, they have been in a box in the shed for quite some time...

Lots of things in the pipeline, got some cat's and a guv to spray blue tomorrow and expecting some more maroon mk1s to come down from the layout for final fettling. 

Cheers

James

[Jon4470]

Nice to see an update…….in particular nice to see Barber coming along so well. 
 

I agree about the new cab. I understand why it was modified but I think it spoils the look of the loco. Still, at least the loco is still running!

 

[jessy1692]

1 hour ago, Jon4470 said:

Nice to see an update…….in particular nice to see Barber coming along so well. 
 

I agree about the new cab. I understand why it was modified but I think it spoils the look of the loco. Still, at least the loco is still running!

 

Cheers Jon, been itching to get Barber sorted.

 

Like you say, at least its still with us and the Peckett has had an extension too but I think because we have seen Barber run in original condition it does look worse seeing it taller now, especially the chimney as it puts the face of it off. Hey ho, I'm sure if I was driving it I'd want a bit of head room!

[Enterprisingwestern]

2 hours ago, jessy1692 said:

got some cat's and a guv to spray blue tomorrow

 

I assume the RSPCA are aware?

 

Mike.

[jessy1692]

17 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I assume the RSPCA are aware?

 

Mike.

Ha! CCT'S even, blooming auto correct!

 

Having said that if I find the one that uses the flower beds as a toilet it may end up in corporate image fur!

[jessy1692]

Afternoon all, I feel like I'm back into the swing of things modelling wise, picked up some bargains off Ebay as well for some projects to come.

 

Anyway, this week I have sprayed up and lettered a GUV and a couple of CCTs and found a Southern van without lettering on the layout too.

The CCTs and GUV were sprayed with some RAL spray paint I got mixed up last year which is great for all over blue stuff.

 

Transfers are Railtec, don't look top closely at some of the wording as the sheets I have are mainly for mk1's and southern pmvs etc.

 

Also this week I have got Barber pretty much finished AND running! I borrowed the 009 trest track from my Dads to get it run in.

Now I have all the Harrogate Gas Works engines I need to think about couplings and get some hoppers sorted properly. I have to say I'm rather pleased with Barber, the RT Models kit is well thought out and great to build. The works plates came from the Narrow Planet custom service, great looking things and service from them as usual.

 

I think we are having a stock swap over today so I'll have another batch of my Dads coaches to finish off and varnish soon.

Cheers

James

Edited September 2, 2023 by jessy1692

[Jon4470]

Like the kettle/ teapot! 🫖

[jessy1692]

6 minutes ago, Jon4470 said:

Like the kettle/ teapot! 🫖

Cheers Jon, one of the pics in the book shows Barber with a kettle by smoke box so thought I'd replicate it, I think it's an oil can really but looks the part! Also I put the jack on left side footplate instead of the right because itl be chimney 1st to gas works and I'll only see one side!

[jessy1692]

Evening all, been on with a couple more bits of coaching stock since the last post, a Southern Pride Cravens SO kit is in the works along with an LMS inspection saloon.

 

I got the A1 brass sides and windows off ebay for a 5er or so and a 50ft bg for another 8 or so Inc post so have set to. I know its not the best kit/sides but it looks the part. Usual stuff of strip down and carve off the detail and window apertures, coming along pretty well.

Seems to be a lot of differences on these things so I'm going for a bit of a if it looks right it is right job on this. I have read 45045 may have been in plain blue with FYE so possibly go for that as its a bit different to blue and grey, plus easier painting wise! Any clues as to these things being in plain blue gladly accepted.

 

Cheers

James

Edited September 15, 2023 by jessy1692

[jessy1692]

Hi all, bit of an update on the inspection saloon, door furniture all in now and the roof vents put on. I managed to save enough of the original ones to re use and added a few white metal ones for the bigger fans.

Next up will be detailing up the ends, not a big fan of bending up wire to make symmetrical curves so we shall see how it goes!

Cheers

James

[Moxy]

On 15/09/2023 at 20:55, jessy1692 said:

Any clues as to these things being in plain blue gladly accepted.

 

Cheers

James

 

The answer is - not much. I have only been able to find one definitely in blue and one possibility.

 

There is TDM395279 in the Paul Bartlett photo on this page

 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmrdepartmentalstock

 

And this unidentified one on the Southern Region

 

https://sremg.org.uk/misc/dept.shtml

 

(Second row, fourth photo). TBH I'm not 100% convinced that is in blue, it might be in green, it's difficult to tell on this monitor.  Since we don't know which one it is, we can't cross check with other photos.

 

Other than those two photos, most of the other pictures I have found are either in maroon or blue & grey (until privatisation, when they have been painted in all sorts of liveries!)

 

Hope this helps.

 

Moxy

[jessy1692]

58 minutes ago, Moxy said:

 

The answer is - not much. I have only been able to find one definitely in blue and one possibility.

 

There is TDM395279 in the Paul Bartlett photo on this page

 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmrdepartmentalstock

 

And this unidentified one on the Southern Region

 

https://sremg.org.uk/misc/dept.shtml

 

(Second row, fourth photo). TBH I'm not 100% convinced that is in blue, it might be in green, it's difficult to tell on this monitor.  Since we don't know which one it is, we can't cross check with other photos.

 

Other than those two photos, most of the other pictures I have found are either in maroon or blue & grey (until privatisation, when they have been painted in all sorts of liveries!)

 

Hope this helps.

 

Moxy

Thanks Moxy, great research there, iv missed them Bartlett shots somehow! Also that's the 1st iv read of a conversion from a coronation coach too! 

I'm sure I have read somewhere 45045 was in blue ar York in the 70s and as iv done more research iv concluded the A1 etches don't really match any protype, allegedly BR ends with 1st batch LMS sides, however, 45045 did get it's ends rebuilt to BR batch style without the centre droplight so it's 'nearly" right. I should have really read up before I started but hey ho, itl do for me.

 

That pic of one on the Southern is interesting as to me it looks like it's I blue but like you say screen's etc can change it. Assuming it is blue I would have thought it'd have got into blue and grey by then. It seems these things got about a fair bit.

 

For a smallish class/batch of coaches there is a real minefield of detail differences.

 

Thanks for the links, very much appreciated.

All the best 

James

[jessy1692]

Evening all, had a pretty busy week sorting out by bathroom tiles so not a huge lot of time for trains. Having said that though this aft I did have a bit of time to fiddle with some coaches:

 

Inspection saloon moving on, water filler pipes bent up and stuck on, seemed to take forever but glad I perceived to get them pretty symmetrical. I think that's most of the work on the body done so I'll be looking to add bits to the chassis next. Interior would be nice but I don't think iv any arm chairs spare.

My Dad popped in with another little job, it came as part of a job lot of coaches with bits of work already been done but missing ends and a chassis. The roof boards and rain strips had been shaved off and the original vets filed off and new white metal ones put in off set. I'm not sure if it was part way through a conversion to try do a dia 334 FK but I'll keep it as a 328 CK.

Holes drilled for new door furniture as previous owner had sanded off and new rainstrips and destination board holders added. Some filler required on one end but should scrub up OK. 

 

Finally, some transfers have landed so I'll get cracking with the Cravens SO soon. I'm going to get the sides decorated before attaching thr clear sides.

Cheers

James