MarkSG Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Incidentally, the Facebook albums are public, so if you have a Facebook account there's nothing stopping you from commenting on them yourself. These are the two mentioned already in this thread: https://www.facebook.com/crookyj/media_set?set=a.733909300010241.1073741876.100001735334239&type=3 https://www.facebook.com/crookyj/media_set?set=a.846169248784245.1073741903.100001735334239&type=3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted May 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'd use the "report photo" button on Facebook. I reported some images on Flickr that were my copyright (images were lifted off eBay) and within 48 hours they were gone. Good luck - I know how infuriating this can be. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 Here's my image of 60024 - sorry I selected the wrong image.. I really appreciate the replies to this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Walters Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The problem of copyright on the net has been discussed on every forum I've been a member, it's also been discussed to death on Admin and Webmaster forums, Those watermarks he is using are the work of an amateur and can be edited out with Photoshop or Gimp, true watermarks are added at source and are very difficult but not impossible to remove with the right software and patience. The general feeling is that it is "up to you" to protect your content, there are sites that will monitor your site, and warn you if your content appears on other sites, some people are in the belief that the whole of the internet is "public domain" and there is no such thing as copyright, simply because you have put it up to be seen, one admin described it as putting pictures in a gallery and locking the doors. Personally, on the sites I run I either display my own pictures, or ask permission to use images, and credit the originator. There is also the added problem that some places do not like you taking pictures, like military establishments, near where I live is an Army rail head, when there are army vehicles being loaded photography is forbidden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 With the duplicate image, you should contact FB and tell them to immediately take down the relevant images and add that it's a deliberate theft using an added watermark and that he should be banned from FB. You can give them a small square of the picture at full res to prove it's your image. Especially if you do it where has added a heading or watermark. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 If you are concerned, then maybe try https://tineye.com/ . The only way to prevent the theft of stuff on the web is not to publish it in the first place. If you publish a low res image, it can still be copied, but it may prevent the image being used at a much higher res, for printing, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Best story of image theft I heard of was from a tanning studios website. A lazy competitor did not even bother to lift the photos for his site, but actually had them as embedded links to the original pictures. The original owner realised this, so not only did he rename all the images on his host, he uploaded alternative images with the same file name as the original. All of a sudden instead of bronzed beauties the other site was showing badly sun burnt old ladies, Messages saying 'we steal other peoples work' etc.etc. Revenge in that case was very sweet. Best thing was the competitor obviously did not check his website all that often because the alternative images stayed up on his site for a few weeks!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted May 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2015 Here's my image of 60024 - sorry I selected the wrong image.. I which case.... He's not the photographer, he's a very naughty boy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Walters Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Best story of image theft I heard of was from a tanning studios website. A lazy competitor did not even bother to lift the photos for his site, but actually had them as embedded links to the original pictures. The original owner realised this, so not only did he rename all the images on his host, he uploaded alternative images with the same file name as the original. All of a sudden instead of bronzed beauties the other site was showing badly sun burnt old ladies, Messages saying 'we steal other peoples work' etc.etc. Revenge in that case was very sweet. Best thing was the competitor obviously did not check his website all that often because the alternative images stayed up on his site for a few weeks!!! That sounds like a solution I use to stop hotlinking, I found a snippet of code which allows you to show the image you want, but turns any hotlink to a link of your choice, I usually hotlink to a porn site, that stops people in their tracks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Unless the photo has been used by a national newspaper or magazine or a major company then I would not bother about it. These people do tend to pay up straight away if you find a published photo and send then an invoice and a letter containing details. No need for any threat in my experience. If you do not protect your property then it might get stolen seems to be the general feeling. Funnily enough it works the other way round. I was asked to submit an obituary a couple of years ago for a magazine. I did not have a suitable photo to hand so suggested a contact who should have been able to provide one. Don't worry replied the editor, I have several of your photos available. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=846169878784182&set=pb.100001735334239.-2207520000.1432715166.&type=3&theater Look quickly - as soon to be taken down no doubt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Incidentally, the Facebook albums are public, so if you have a Facebook account there's nothing stopping you from commenting on them yourself. These are the two mentioned already in this thread: https://www.facebook.com/crookyj/media_set?set=a.733909300010241.1073741876.100001735334239&type=3 https://www.facebook.com/crookyj/media_set?set=a.846169248784245.1073741903.100001735334239&type=3 The problem is he blocks anyone with any recourse. I've been using wife's log on but no doubt Clare will be blocked too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 He seems to be somewhat self obsessed judging by this quote from his Facebook page " I love how some little scum deleted me only cos I'm nearly 47000 likes grow up you jealous low life pricks only cos you can't get 50000 likes & I can that's quite amusing actually lol don't cry now want me to give you tissues so you can wipe the tears from your eyes lol hahahaha — feeling amused." Not to mention immature. But I suppose that the need to be "liked" does do strange things to some folk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 That's not really what you said in your opening comments........you might want this thread quarantined. Why has it started foaming from the mouth?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2015 I became philosophical about it all years ago when, after asking if anyone had any details of a wagon, someone sent me one of my own photos. For a while I was hacked off but then thought, "whatever" - I'm not going to sell them to make money so if people want them and share them, good luck, if they want to claim they are theirs, good luck (as long as they aren't published or used inappropriately). As has been said, if you put them on the 'net then they are free for others to take, no matter what you do, there is always a way around it so the only 100% sure way is to keep them on your own hard disk. I know it's annoying but ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2015 He seems to be somewhat self obsessed judging by this quote from his Facebook page " I love how some little scum deleted me only cos I'm nearly 47000 likes grow up you jealous low life pricks only cos you can't get 50000 likes & I can that's quite amusing actually lol don't cry now want me to give you tissues so you can wipe the tears from your eyes lol hahahaha— feeling amused." Not to mention immature. But I suppose that the need to be "liked" does do strange things to some folk. I wonder what he would say if BTP knocked on his front door to enquire what he was doing on railway property and ask if he had written permission to be there? Stealing images is a regrettable fact of life on the 'net - as Beast has said - although then claiming copyright over what appears to be someone else's work is not exactly in the same league in my view. However trespass on railway property is an offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Ah, but sending the BTP round to enquire about trespass based on the evidence of a stolen image sounds to me like a misuse of police powers ... another offence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 I wonder what he would say if BTP knocked on his front door to enquire what he was doing on railway property and ask if he had written permission to be there? Stealing images is a regrettable fact of life on the 'net - as Beast has said - although then claiming copyright over what appears to be someone else's work is not exactly in the same league in my view. However trespass on railway property is an offence. Hi Mike. I have spoken to our BTP colleagues whilst out on a job Saturday. Whilst no action is being taken immediately, he is on their radar for sure. Thanks for your input. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Is it an offence to be on railway property when you are not at work? As a railway employee, bearing in mind there are numerous companies these days, does it give you a right to roam? Does the individual have a pass to access railway ? If they were taken by yourself, are you allowed to take pictures whilst working? Does your employer know you do this? Are you then allowed to publish them on the net etc? I have no real interest if you do or do not, but as an ex plod these are questions that the BTP may well ask, so in a way, it might be better like others have said to,perhaps take it on the chin? I have several hundred books re railways and have seen countless photos and to be honest, who took the picture etc is rarely of any interest to me, but I can understand where you are coming from. At least he is on the radar now, but from experience with dealing with similar, often the perpetrator will try and throw things back. Hence what I said above. Good luck, and at least we know now what he is doing. Ps.......thanks for putting the correct image up, as we can now see what you are on about . Pps...........Carry on with the pics, enjoy them and they bring back some great memories! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 ...Are you absolutely sure that these aren't the watermarkers own work? ... Back in the days of fillum (remember that?) I was accused of copyright theft over some published images I had sold. Since I was physically in possession of the original slides from which the published images had been taken, it never went as far as legal proceedings. I knew there was another photographer present, I was about 20 yards behind him. My best construction of his claim was that he had remained completely unaware that he didn't have an 'exclusive': that probably accounts for the fact that I had sold mine prospectively unprocessed via an agency, whereas he didn't move so fast... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=846169802117523&set=pb.100001735334239.-2207520000.1432639642.&type=3&theater now gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2015 Is it an offence to be on railway property when you are not at work? As a railway employee, bearing in mind there are numerous companies these days, does it give you a right to roam? Does the individual have a pass to access railway ? Somewhat OT but effectively it could be. Anyone going 'on or about' the railway has to be properly trained and passed out to do so plus they should have a Lookoutman plus they should have been briefed about the site. Technically if they haven't then in some respects NR could be in breach of its own safety regime therefore it is in their interest to correctly enforce it. In addition - although the situation might have changed from the past - unless the duties of the person take them there or unless they have relevant written permission then even if they are railway staff they are technically committing an offence of trespass. Hence, for example, in years past, I used to issue letters of authority to several of my staff to allow them to go rabbiting on railway property while they were off duty. Anyway in respect of this matter Graig has now tipped off the local BTP guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 3c Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I know its galling when people claim your photos as there own. But if you don't want people copying your photos the only way is not to post them to the world wide web. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=846169802117523&set=pb.100001735334239.-2207520000.1432639642.&type=3&theater now gone Not completely gone, though - just moved to here https://www.facebook.com/crookyj/media_set?set=a.846169248784245.1073741903.100001735334239&type=3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Is it an offence to be on railway property when you are not at work? As a railway employee, bearing in mind there are numerous companies these days, does it give you a right to roam? Does the individual have a pass to access railway ? If they were taken by yourself, are you allowed to take pictures whilst working? Does your employer know you do this? Are you then allowed to publish them on the net etc? I have no real interest if you do or do not, but as an ex plod these are questions that the BTP may well ask, so in a way, it might be better like others have said to,perhaps take it on the chin? I have several hundred books re railways and have seen countless photos and to be honest, who took the picture etc is rarely of any interest to me, but I can understand where you are coming from. At least he is on the radar now, but from experience with dealing with similar, often the perpetrator will try and throw things back. Hence what I said above. Good luck, and at least we know now what he is doing. Ps.......thanks for putting the correct image up, as we can now see what you are on about . Pps...........Carry on with the pics, enjoy them and they bring back some great memories! yes - next question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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