Pandora Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 With the recent announcement from Heljan for the Baby Deltic, other than shunting locos, , does that mean we are only left with the D600 Warship and Metro Vick CoBo to complete the fleet of Diesels which BR ran? I cannot think of any others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 The other omissions are mentioned (if sometimes obliquely) in various other threads. Principally, they are the NBL diesel-electrics (type 1/cl. 16 and type 2/cl.21 or 29). BTW a D600 is coming, as a Kernow commission from Dapol Of the 1960s prototypes, the remaining significant omission is DP2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted November 21, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2009 And the class 74 Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Mildy surprised that the 10000 and 10201 classes haven't been picked up yet Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted November 21, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2009 Indeed as Pennine has mentioned the NBL type 2's of classes 21/29 seems the biggest ommission now in geographical terms ER, ScR, though you can half see why Heljan (everybody thought they'd do them 'cos most people who'd bought a 26/27 would also want one!) would be put off because of the forthcoming 22 from Dapol. Although visually similar the locos are quite different not least in length, and I dont think its in anyway 'nailed on' that we'll see a Dapol 21/29? Possibly because there are plenty Hornby ones still knocking about, maybe we'll get a 28 before the NBL type twos are addressed? ! - that'd turn me into a Cumbrian Coast modeller! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Not yet mentioned: NBL class 16 Bo-Bo. To be honest, I can't see there being too much demand for those, as Heljan are doing the BTH class 15. Two other prototypes I can't recall being mentioned yet: 10800 and the Fell Diesel (was it 10100?). Logically, Bachmann should do DP2 and GT3 (I know that's not a diesel!) as they have the correct chassis for each (Deltic and Standard 5, respectively). EDIT: Sorry Ian (PennineMC): I missed your reference to the NBL class 16s earlier. ? :icon_redface: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Dont forget the Southern Region selection of 1-Co-Co-1's! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted November 22, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2009 How about the Western's gas turbines, 18000 and 18100? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodnok Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 How about the Western's gas turbines, 18000 and 18100? ... and if you are going to do 18100, then E1000/E2001 would be interesting too ... (Ducks and runs for cover) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I think an updated 73 to modern standards with cast chassis etc, would go down a treat and I would love a 74. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hey careful with all that Class 74 talk - I've just completed a kit No - I'd be delighted to see it and the Class 71 (I know it's an electric loco) as decent RTR models. The Bo-Co / 21-29 and 16 are dead certs surely ?? Time for the electrics then - Class 76 and the rest of the AC stuff ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Yes, lets be brave and go electric. Woodhead stuff especially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 If we are talking diesel then the Derby suburban units are the most glaring gap in UK diesel trains. Plus there is a mass of 'yellow stuff' to choose from. I still maintain the best thing a manufacturer could do for the UK diesel modeller is a decent range of mk2e's and f's Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Transpennine CL124 please. A good one with a full set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted November 22, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2009 If we are talking diesel then the Derby suburban units are the most glaring gap in UK diesel trains. Plus there is a mass of 'yellow stuff' to choose from. I still maintain the best thing a manufacturer could do for the UK diesel modeller is a decent range of mk2e's and f's Cheers Jim I agree Jim... and as far as railcars go there are plenty of DMU's to do full stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Logically, Bachmann should do DP2 and GT3 (I know that's not a diesel!) as they have the correct chassis for each (Deltic and Standard 5, respectively). GT3 had a coupled wheelbase of 7'-0'' + 7'-9'', (taken from a drawing in Model Railway News July 1962), whereas the Standard 5 had 7'-0'' + 8'-6''. The theory that GT3 was built on spare Standard 5 frames seems to have been a myth; (see http://britishrailways.tripod.com/exgt3.html). This sort of misinformation was rife amongst spotters at the time - I know, I was one of them. 7'-0'' + 7'-9'' matches the GWR Hall, Manor and Mogul - I will base my scratchbuilt model on a set of Gibson Manor frames, I think. Another rumour at the time came from one usually unreliable local spotter, and he was roundly derided from his troubles. He insisted that there was a 'Super Clayton' running trials on the Derby to Crewe line. Having participated in the vocal debunking at the time I was, to say the least, shocked to learn years later of the existence of DHP1 !! Well - it never appeared in an Ian Allan Combined Volume so it couldn't have existed - could it ? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted November 22, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2009 ....Another rumour at the time came from one usually unreliable local spotter, and he was roundly derided from his troubles. He insisted that there was a 'Super Clayton' running trials on the Derby to Crewe line. Having participated in the vocal debunking at the time I was, to say the least, shocked to learn years later of the existence of DHP1 !! Well - it never appeared in an Ian Allan Combined Volume so it couldn't have existed - could it ? Regards, John Isherwood. I think there was a Clayton look-a-like demonstrator on the cards... there was 'Taurus'as well.... the 'beefed' up 'Teddy-bear' look-a-like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 I think an updated 73 to modern standards with cast chassis etc, would go down a treat and I would love a 74. /quote] I will be login to a certain website at midnight 31st December 2009 to see if there is an announcement which involves the the NRM Class 74. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 22, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2009 while there are models of the 59, 67 and 73, they are all showing their age some what (and in the case of the 67 its not exactly the most accurate model ever made...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I think there was a Clayton look-a-like demonstrator on the cards... there was 'Taurus'as well.... the 'beefed' up 'Teddy-bear' look-a-like. Griff, I think you've missed the humour in John's post. The diesel-hydraulic 'super Clayton' did exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_DHP1 No pic there unfortunately, but there are a few in publication Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodnok Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I still maintain the best thing a manufacturer could do for the UK diesel modeller is a decent range of mk2e's and f's Oh yes, that would be soooo useful. Loads of liveries, plenty of variations, running on the network from the 70s to the present day. That's a project and a half. You could sell the same basic variants over and over in fleet quantities, yet also have enough specials and variants to have new variants for years. I can't quite understand why someone hasn't done it yet. I'd have at least six straight off, probably more like ten to twelve... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Tea boy's list of shunters strikes me as ideal to the small batch, "niche market" that's alleged to be Heljan's favoured direction. Some of those wee shunters could prove more-ish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 22, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2009 How about the Western's gas turbines, 18000 and 18100? Yes Please one of each. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 22, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2009 Griff, I think you've missed the humour in John's post. The diesel-hydraulic 'super Clayton' did exist: http://en.wikipedia....itish_Rail_DHP1 No pic there unfortunately, but there are a few in publication Do you something I have forgot about that Locomotive. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
english electric Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 how about the class 89 - 89001 3 livery options now i would like to see the intercity swallow version of this or the original livery in a rtr not just a kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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