naturol Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The solution to " what do I build next to justify me having kept all my stock from previous layout builds," I had considered stone terminal, concrete plant, and a roundy roundy, But I still have a collection of network rail test train stock, lots of infrastructure stock, that is just sat on the wall in the spare room, Last week I saw chris nevards images of his new narrow and box like base boards, from MDF, and knowing how awkward getting Vopak out the loft has been, a new thinner layout is desirable. So based on the attached image of an American themed shunting puzzle, I have come up with my next project. Titled Elliot Rail, ( after my boy). The basic idea is an outsourced supplier of rolling stock repairs based in an old steam shed, with modernised buildings also on site. Loosely based on the idea of Barry shed, when it repaired the MGR wagons on the Aberthaw power station circuit. And subsequently used by other companies Including more recently Colas. I have designed a track plan based on peco med rad points, with a board size of 2550 x 350 Made up of three 850x 350 units. These will be constructed as boxes with a 100mm thick base frame with 12mm surface, and a backscene extending 300 up to the top of the box, with a 100 mm pelmet running across the front. Again this will be displayed at eye level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 The idea has sheds at each end of the layout, with the likes of heavy lifting over head gantries, a wheel lathe, pits, A running shed, and general maintenance shed being the focus for the movement of the stock around the layout. Carriage siding steel walkway platforms will be evident. Not sure on the backscene building yet. Siding length is determined by the max length of one element of my HOBC machine and a shunter, so around 450-480 mm with a run round a little longer, The layout will be DCC but there will be no point motors, and I may well use Insul frog points as I have a number left from a job lot bought some time ago. I am having a stay alive capacitor installed in my 08 as we speak for vopak, so this will be the standard motive power for the layout, and hopefully will justify the Insul frog points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 as much as possible this will be a quick build, with as much off the shelf items as I can find, So here goes. This is Day 1 and the build and acquisition begins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 The grey areas at each end of the plan are paving areas in front of the sheds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Feeling this plan, I also could do with something quick in code 100 so will watch with interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 It's good to fiddle with it...... Reduce the length of both head shunts to restrict movement and shorten over all length to 2100. Likewise build in a fiddle track behind the backscene building. Does nt matter that the base boards are odd lengths as they are not supposed to stack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Brown Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Following! Looks interesting, I like shunting lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 Yippee, I have six of the seven points, just the X crossings and a LH point to buy, still got three boxs of code 100 flex track to use up mind, Designed the baseboards and framework, so I will canvas some builders this week, chris Nevard had some built recently in MDF similar to those I built for Ranelagh bridge, but his were laser cut and appear far more rigid, so, he's the next port of call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minster Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 The solution to " what do I build next to justify me having kept all my stock from previous layout builds," I had considered stone terminal, concrete plant, and a roundy roundy, But I still have a collection of network rail test train stock, lots of infrastructure stock, that is just sat on the wall in the spare room, Last week I saw chris nevards images of his new narrow and box like base boards, from MDF, and knowing how awkward getting Vopak out the loft has been, a new thinner layout is desirable. So based on the attached image of an American themed shunting puzzle, I have come up with my next project. Titled Elliot Rail, ( after my boy). The basic idea is an outsourced supplier of rolling stock repairs based in an old steam shed, with modernised buildings also on site. Loosely based on the idea of Barry shed, when it repaired the MGR wagons on the Aberthaw power station circuit. And subsequently used by other companies Including more recently Colas. image.jpg I have designed a track plan based on peco med rad points, with a board size of 2550 x 350 Made up of three 850x 350 units. These will be constructed as boxes with a 100mm thick base frame with 12mm surface, and a backscene extending 300 up to the top of the box, with a 100 mm pelmet running across the front. Again this will be displayed at eye level. image.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minster Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 You could have a mainline alongside with Arriva 150's and model it on the old Powell Dyffryn wagon works, that would give you a very steep bank and wall behind with two road bridges each end - Maindy bridge and parkfield place bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 The stock has been set aside since pre Parcel Point, With nowhere to run it, and since "train Crap" is not allowed into the normal living space at home, it never gets seen. To muster some help and show off the stock I I had to drag Steve watts into the house screaming yesterday and subjected him to an intense half hour of grooming. He is now on board for the cardiff small layout show. 23rd January. The sidings are long enough for two bogie wagons or a coach and a shunter, just. The next few images are of the stock for the layout, but they have been on some of the previous threads too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 Self propelling cranes Pair of war wells based on a Model Rail article from a few years back. A barrier wagon and part of the HOBC train The self discharge stone train The structure gauging train The HOBC unit A heavily graffiti unit on way to NRM for restoration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Following along with interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 £30 spent so far on points and joiners. The ply is 120mm short but you get the idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Looking good will be following with interest. Fantastic selection of stock. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2015 Yippee, I have six of the seven points, just the X crossings and a LH point to buy, still got three boxs of code 100 flex track to use up mind, If you have 3 boxes of plain track to use, you might need to add a short extension! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Complete change on the base board design. Seeing it laid out on the trestles, it isn't that cumbersome so I don't think three separate boards is justified. So I'm going to make it from a single sheet of 12mm ply ( which I have in stock in the garage.) for the board resting on tried and tested 2"X1" PSE. Screwed and glued. Which I picked up today from TP. £6.20 I have approached my pal simon Mac. For some old peco point motors and a CDU. I have an HandM duette which will temp. Provide the AC current. The mimic board will sit on the fascia of the pelmet, scenery next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 New base board commissioned from my buddy "Wattsy" Those who have read previous threads will know he has access to the laser cutter as well. Images later of our latest scenic detailing. Peco point motors and CDU are being dropped off by macko tomorow, that's a real saving. Hopefully see readers at the thornbury show this weekend, I'm there with my brother, we,re taking Vopak. Collected my EWS 08 back from Peter at Lord & Butler today, had stay alive fitted, runs like a dream So let's hope for a gremlin free weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Base board built and the point motor parts set aside for a weekend of tinkering. Sundeala board ready to be glued DOW. Ordered the Gaugemaster foam and ballast underlay, Buildings to be roughed out next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 New board Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Looking good. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Not a cobalt in sight. Point rodding made from piano wire. Kadees magnets fitted, and started on the display box. Old bent sheet of Sundeala evo-stuck down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Want to create a convincing hard stand across the frontage of the layout, across the points, I had difficulty achieving this previously, but, I've been directed toward a shape ways 3D plastic print of a template that overlays a standard medium peco point. As part of the scene, as a wagon repair facility, I want to include a prefab steel shed similar to the one at Margam Knuckle yard. Note the hardstanding inlaid to the track, which is what I'm striving for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Thumbing through David Ratcliffe's "private owner wagons" I came across this image of Jake Rail Tank Cleaning Services, near Ellesmere Port, where, funnily enough they cleaned tank wagons,, and latterly PCAs, The longest siding being a mere 216' long, again the hard standing and pre fab steel buildings. Security fencing, gates, and overgrowth, all the stuff I like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Following with interest. You have some nice unusual departmental stock there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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