cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 For the past fifty years I have been acquiring, modifying, building, and improving a stocklist that has always been intended for a mythical model of Evercreech Junction (S&DJR), set in and around 1961. It has to be admitted that I enjoy stock-building more than any other aspect of railway modelling. I have been unable to resist the compulsion to buy and modify RTR, build kits and scratchbuild, to the point where storage for the stock has become a serious problem - and there is still a very sizeable list of 'to do' projects involving locos, coaches, wagons and containers. Analysing my motives, I think that it is the relatively manageable size of stock-building projects - ranging from an afternoon to a year, depending whether the subject is a wagon or a loco - that appeals. The prospect of a layout-building project involving a fairly comprehensive loft conversion, baseboard building, track laying, ballasting, building construction and scenery creation fills me with foreboding. The size of my stocklist also dictates a very large area of storage sidings - and I still won't be able to accommodate all of my collection. It is really starting to frustrate me that such a huge stocklist is unable to stretch its legs further than my 8'- 0'' / three road shunting plank, and I haven't looked at the vast majority of my creations since the day that they were finished and packed away. I have a digital database of completed stock, ongoing builds and projects yet to be commenced - the only way to keep track of what I have and where it is!! My projected 'magnum opus' of building Evercreech Junction in the late 50s / early 60s is, as I have said, a daunting prospect. I have taken the track plan of the prototype :- and interpreted it, within the available loft space as :- Whilst the essential elements of the station itself have been reproduced close to scale length - albeit straightened - it has been necessary to move the actual junction 'off-scene'. Whilst this may seem radical for a layout with 'Junction' in its title, it would be simply impossible to incorporate the junction layout, and associated storage failities for the 'branch', within the available space. All that I have done is 'stretch' the prototypically very short transition from the station trackwork to the junction. I have no doubt that this will require modifications to the prototypical stock movements, but I feel confident that the essential atmosphere of Evercreech Junction can be reproduced. Trackwork will be Peco Code 75 - bullhead in the scenic area, (as and when the necessary pointwork becomes available), and flat-bottomed in the storage area. Comments will be very welcome - I fully expect declarations of 'Sooner you than me'! and 'You've got to be joking'! Regards, John Isherwood. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 John. What size is the layout going to be? Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 John. What size is the layout going to be? Andy. Sorry - a vital statistic - 9.5 x 3.0 metres or roughly 31' x 10'; in 4mm. scale. Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 John, An admirable objective. One which I have attempted in both 2mm and 4mm but could not resist trying to squeeze in the junction and branch sidings into the layout. My approach was probably a mistake but your use of the available space seems more sensible. Have you considered reversing the layout so that the end curvature would better represent the overall curvature of the prototype. No loss of operating area. You might consider incorporating a transition into the end curves and introduce some of the curve into the scenic section. I might have some bits and bobs from my attempt if you don't mind me dumping my leftovers. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) Actually, I was a member of the Somerset and Dorset Railway Trust, way back when and I was friends with the trusts station steward for Evercreech Junction (Neil Pankhurst). When the line closed, he prepared a number of sketched and scale drawings of most of the structures. I have a copy of the work that he did. If they are of any value, let me know and I'll make copies for you. Edited December 17, 2017 by RBAGE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Actually, I was a member of the Somerset and Dorset Railway Trust, way back when and I was friends with the trusts station steward for Evercreech Junction (Neil Pankhurst). When the line closed, he prepared a number of sketched and scale drawings of most of the structures. I have a copy of the work that he did. If they are of any value, let me know and I'll make copies for you. RBAGE, That would be really helpful - I'd love to take you up on that offer, thanks. Regards, John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 RBAGE, That would be really helpful - I'd love to take you up on that offer, thanks. Regards, John. Consider it done. Just give me time to dig them out and I'll be in touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) John, An admirable objective. One which I have attempted in both 2mm and 4mm but could not resist trying to squeeze in the junction and branch sidings into the layout. My approach was probably a mistake but your use of the available space seems more sensible. Have you considered reversing the layout so that the end curvature would better represent the overall curvature of the prototype. No loss of operating area. You might consider incorporating a transition into the end curves and introduce some of the curve into the scenic section. I might have some bits and bobs from my attempt if you don't mind me dumping my leftovers. Bob Bob, The problem with reversing the track plan is that the most attractive view of the main station buildings is across the tracks; ie. from the side that I am proposing to have facing the operator. If built, the layout will most definitely be a 'stay-at-home', so maximum operator appreciation / satisfaction is the main priority. I want to build in the spirit of Little Bytham - somewhere to watch long trains pass at prototypical speeds, whilst enabling a single operator to carry out all the prototypical train movements, including yard shunting and branch train terminating / departure movements. Added interest will come from attaching / detaching pilot locos for heavy holiday trains. I anticipate principal coaching stock and / or NPCCS trains to be a maximum of ten bogie vehicles, with maximum freight trains of equivalent lengths. My stock can be divided roughly between Prototypical and Impulse / Must Haves! If on-layout stock storage proves to be problematic, the Prototypical stock will take priority, and it may be necessary to make the inner storage yard track, (nearest to the operator), a series of exchangeable cassettes. That would allow the non-prototypical stock to be stored in cassettes, on racks above the storage yard. Regards, John Isherwood. Edited December 17, 2017 by cctransuk 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2017 Hello John I, too, was a member of the S&DRT (Publications Manager) and am now with the Somerset & Dorset Railway Heritage Trust (S&DRHT). Back in the 80s, I spent many hours with the late Peter Pike - his father was Stationmaster at the Junction. I am happy to make any of my operational information and photos available to you. It's a bit difficult to comment on your plan, but I would consider the top right area to be a bit too open whilst the top left is a little cramped. You have multiple hidden sidings - have you calculated how many you actually need? That will depend on what trains you intend to run. Most trains went 'down and back' - therefore, reverse loops might be better. You then only need one set of stock for the local passenger trains and the freight trains (although I grant you The Pines needs two sets to be strictly in correct formation). If you had 'the Bournemouth loop' at base level (0"), the track could gradually climb upwards through the station with 'the Bath loop' being 3-4" higher. If you PM me, I will send a diagram of my own layout which uses this very principle. At least it's worth considering even if you discount it - I won't 'get upset'! Hope that helps. Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Hello John I, too, was a member of the S&DRT (Publications Manager) and am now with the Somerset & Dorset Railway Heritage Trust (S&DRHT). Back in the 80s, I spent many hours with the late Peter Pike - his father was Stationmaster at the Junction. I am happy to make any of my operational information and photos available to you. It's a bit difficult to comment on your plan, but I would consider the top right area to be a bit too open whilst the top left is a little cramped. You have multiple hidden sidings - have you calculated how many you actually need? That will depend on what trains you intend to run. Most trains went 'down and back' - therefore, reverse loops might be better. You then only need one set of stock for the local passenger trains and the freight trains (although I grant you The Pines needs two sets to be strictly in correct formation). If you had 'the Bournemouth loop' at base level (0"), the track could gradually climb upwards through the station with 'the Bath loop' being 3-4" higher. If you PM me, I will send a diagram of my own layout which uses this very principle. At least it's worth considering even if you discount it - I won't 'get upset'! Hope that helps. Brian Brian, Besides being somewhere to run trains reasonably prototypically, the layout will be a much needed 'home' for my stock - both built, in progress and projected. Yes, I do need every inch of those extensive storage sidings - and I still won't be able to accommodate all of my stock. I have an embarrassment of stock with which to operate the prospective layout, and I'm not minded to dispose of any of it! I will try and convert my stocklist databases into something that I can post here - just to give an idea of what is involved. To give a taster, though, there is a full range of locos, (multiple examples in most cases), appropriate to the S&DJR from the mid-1950s to approaching closure; plus a long list of exotica such as 46256, 71000, all of the pioneer diesel types, and all of the prototype diesels (plus GT3). There's a Midland Pullman rake and numerous ex-GWR and BR DMUs - you get the picture. I am dead against introducing gradients, I'm afraid - to the point where the baseboards will be excessively cross-braced against warping, and the supports will be retrospectively screw-adjustable for height to compensate for any settlement. I have read too many horror stories of locos having insufficient haulage capacity to handle gradients, tight radii and prototypical length trains, so gradients and tight radii are 'no-go' areas as far as I am concerned. Thank you so much for your interest and input. Regards, John isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2017 Excellent project. Can't see you being short of 'decals' to sort out your stock...... Anyway, my only contribuition to this, apart from saying wow, is to offer you info on the SO 1961 Summer Timetable July, August & September (part) Cleethorpes/ Sidmouth Exmouth (and return) that used a real hoth potch of stock, including (as you probably well know) Gresleys and Thompsons and the odd LMS example as well as Mk1s. Looking forward to keepinbg in touch with this John. Smashing idea. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Excellent project. Can't see you being short of 'decals' to sort out your stock...... Anyway, my only contribuition to this, apart from saying wow, is to offer you info on the SO 1961 Summer Timetable July, August & September (part) Cleethorpes/ Sidmouth Exmouth (and return) that used a real hoth potch of stock, including (as you probably well know) Gresleys and Thompsons and the odd LMS example as well as Mk1s. Looking forward to keepinbg in touch with this John. Smashing idea. Phil Phil, ANY relevant information relating to timetables and train formations would be pounced upon, thank you - this area is not my forte, I'm afraid, so I have for the time-being compiled some very notional coaching and NPCCS rakes - mainly to make sense of a sort of the stock that I have accumulated! As promised, below is the locomotive stock list - as will be apparent, the latter part of the list is denoted by an asterisk preceding each entry, and is very much the 'parallel universe' motive power !! Regards, John Isherwood. LOCOMOTIVE STOCKLIST BR 3MT 2-6-2T 82004 82F WEATHER BR 3MT 2-6-2T 82039 82E REBUILD, WEATHER BR 3MT 2-6-2T 82041 82F KIT BR 4MT 2-6-0 76009 71A KIT BR 4MT 2-6-0 76015 71A KIT BR 4MT 2-6-0 76061 71A REBUILD, NEW TENDER, RENUMBER FROM 76064, WEATHER BR 4MT 2-6-0 76062 71A WEATHER BR 4MT 4-6-0 75023 85C REBUILD, WEATHER BR 4MT 4-6-0 75027 82G BR 5MT 4-6-0 73051 82F REBUILD, WEATHER BR 5MT 4-6-0 73054 82F WEATHER BR 5MT 4-6-0 73087 70A WEATHER BR 8F 2-8-0 90125 86C WEATHER BR 9F 2-10-0 92204 82F REBUILD, WEATHER BR 9F 2-10-0 92206 82F WEATHER BR 9F 2-10-0 92220 88A WEATHER GWR 3F 0-6-0PT 3742 82F WEATHER GWR 3F 0-6-0PT 4691 82G WEATHER GWR 3MT 0-6-0 3215 82G WEATHER GWR 3MT 0-6-0 3216 82G WEATHER LMS 0F 0-4-0VBT 47190 82F KIT LMS 1P 0-4-4T 58072 82G KIT LMS 2MT 2-6-2T 41242 82F LMS 2MT 2-6-2T 41304 82E WEATHER LMS 2P 4-4-0 40537 82E KIT (PART) LMS 2P 4-4-0 40563 82G REBUILD, WEATHER LMS 2P 4-4-0 40634 82G REBUILD, WEATHER LMS 2P 4-4-0 40700 82F WEATHER LMS 3F 0-6-0 43194 82G WEATHER LMS 3F 0-6-0 43216 82G WEATHER LMS 3F 0-6-0 43682 82G WEATHER LMS 3F 0-6-0T 47316 82F WEATHER LMS 3F 0-6-0T 47496 82F REBUILD, RENUMBER FROM 47372 LMS 4F 0-6-0 44102 82G REBUILD, WEATHER LMS 4F 0-6-0 44422 82G REBUILD, WEATHER LMS 4F 0-6-0 44558 82F REBUILD, WEATHER LMS 5MT 4-6-0 44766 21B REBUILD, RENUMBER FROM 44839, WEATHER LMS 5MT 4-6-0 44771 2A UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WEATHER LMS 5MT 4-6-0 45253 21A WEATHER LMS 7F 2-8-0 53806 82F WEATHER LMS 7F 2-8-0 53807 82F LMS 7F 2-8-0 53809 82F WEATHER LMS 8F 2-8-0 48444 82B WEATHER LMS 8F 2-8-0 48450 82B SR 7P5F 4-6-2 34039 71B WEATHER SR 7P5F 4-6-2 34041 71B WEATHER SR 7P5F 4-6-2 34042 71B WEATHER SR 7P5F 4-6-2 34043 71B REBUILD, RENUMBER FROM 34040, WEATHER SR 7P5F 4-6-2 34046 71B WEATHER * BR 8P 4-6-2 71000 5A WEATHER * BR HP 165 0-6-0 DE PWM652 TSD UNDER CONSTRUCTION * BR HP 204 0-6-0 DM D2135 82E WEATHER * BR HP 204 0-6-0 DM D2275 71B WEATHER * BR HP 350 0-6-0 DE D3994 85B WEATHER * BR HP 600 0-6-0 DM 11001 75C KIT * BR HP 650 0-6-0 DH D9500 82A WEATHER * BR HP 827 Bo-Bo DE 10800 2A WEATHER * BR HP1000 B-B DH D6320 83D WEATHER * BR HP1200 Co-Bo DE D5700 17A WEATHER * BR HP1600 Co-CoDE 10001 1A WEATHER * BR HP1700 B-B DH D7003 82A WEATHER * BR HP2000 1Co-Co1 DE 10203 1A ORDERED * BR HP2000 2-D-2 DM 10100 17A KIT ORDERED * BR HP2000 A1A-A1A DH D 601 83D ORDERED * BR HP2200 B-B DH D 828 82A WEATHER * BR HP2200 B-B DH D 834 82A WEATHER * BR HP2700 C-C DH D1000 81A WEATHER * GWR 0F 0-6-0ST 1365 82C WEATHER * GWR 1F 0-6-0PT 1367 71G WEATHER * GWR 2P 0-6-0PT 6415 85B WEATHER * GWR 2P 4-4-0 3440 82C WEATHER * GWR 2P 4-4-0 9017 89C WEATHER * LMS 2MT 2-6-0 46525 82B WEATHER * LMS 4MT 2-6-0 43049 21A WEATHER * LMS 4P 4-4-0 1000 17A WEATHER * LMS 5MT 2-6-0 42979 21D WEATHER * LMS 7P 4-6-0 46114 21C REBODY TENDER, REPAINT / LINE, WEATHER * LMS 8P 4-6-2 46256 5A WEATHER * LMS 2-6-6-2T 47994 18A WEATHER * LMS HP1600 Co-CoDE 10000 1A WEATHER * PO HP 600 0-8-0 DH TAURUS 82B KIT * PO HP2750 4-6-0GT GT3 WEATHER * PO HP2750 Co-CoDE D0260 WEATHER * PO HP2880 Co-CoDE D0280 WEATHER * PO HP3300 Co-CoDE DELTIC WEATHER * PO HP3300 Co-CoDE DP2 WEATHER * PO HP4000 Co-CoDE HS4000 WEATHER * SR 3F 0-6-0T 30069 71I WEATHER * SR 3P 4-4-0 30120 72A WEATHER 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 The corridor coaching stock :- CORRIDOR COACH STOCKLIST ORIGIN DIAGRAM TYPE NUMBER RAKE BR 99 RMB W1813 01 BR 126 CK W15064 01 BR 146 SK W24330 01 BR 146 SK W24390 01 BR 146 SK W24749 01 BR 181 BSK W34150 01 BR 181 BSK W34154 01 GWR C82/84 SK W1717W 01 GWR E164 BCK W7860W 01 GWR E165/166 CK W7799W 01 GWR C 77 SK W1087W 02 GWR C 77 SK W1102W 02 GWR C 77 SK W1139W 02 GWR C59 SK W5264W 02 GWR D120 BSK W4580W 02 GWR E128 BCK W6512W 02 GWR E149 CK W6659W 02 GWR E159 BCK W7365W 02 GWR F 23 BC SLIP W7899W 02 GWR H38 RC W9607W 02 GWR C 77 SK W562W 03 GWR C54 SK W4900W 03 GWR C60 SK W5700W 03 GWR C81 SK W768W 03 GWR D95 BSK (L) W5088W 03 GWR D95 BSK ® W5121W 03 GWR E127 CK ® W6181W 03 GWR E127 CK (L) W6194W 03 GWR H57 RC W9674W 03 BR 24 RB S1720 08 BR 73 FO S3065 08 BR 146 SK S24318 08 BR 181 SK S34156 08 SR 2001 SK S1143S 08 SR 2019 SK S81S 08 SR 2303 CK S5586S 08 SR 2401 BCK S6582S 08 SR 2659 RBK S7999S 08 SR 2102 BSK S3740S 09 (194) SR 2102 BSK S3741S 09 (194) SR 2301 CK S5642S 09 (194) SR 2101 BSK S3228S 10 (396) SR 2101 BSK S3229S 10 (396) SR 2301 CK S5140S 10 (396) SR 2121 BSK S2855S 11 (970) SR 2121 BSK S2856S 11 (970) SR 2316 CK S5716S 11 (970) BR 24 RB M1713 12 BR 146 SK M25607 12 BR 146 SK M25900 12 BR 171 BCK M21236 12 LMS 1912 K M30098M 12 LMS 1915 SO M9387M 12 LMS 1925 CK M3935M 12 LMS 2123 BSK M26605M 12 LMS 2159 CK M24659M 12 BR 146 SK M24918 13 BR 146 SK M25643 13 LMS 1694 CK M3587M 13 LMS 1694 CK M3700M 13 LMS 1696 BSK M5324M 13 LMS 1696 BSK M5326M 13 LMS 1716 CK M3748M 13 LMS 1721 RSO M7698M 13 LMS 1811 RC M230M 13 BR 24 RB M1710 14 BR 126 CK M15638 14 BR 126 CK M16007 14 BR 146 SK M24150 14 BR 146 SK M24684 14 BR 146 SK M24862 14 BR 146 SK M26036 14 BR 181 BSK M35276 14 BR 181 BSK M35280 14 BR 126 CK M16131 15 BR 126 CK M16150 15 BR 146 SK M25559 15 BR 146 SK M25582 15 BR 146 SK M25617 15 BR 146 SK M25640 15 BR 181 BSK M35278 15 BR 181 BSK M35290 15 LMS 1948 RB M132M 15 LMS 1905 BSK M5542M 16 LMS 2117 CK M4444M 16 BR 93 SO E3904 18 BR 181 BSK E35168 18 LNER 115 SK E12684E 18 LNER 155 SK E12962E 18 LNER 155 SK E13029E 18 LNER 167 RB E9125E 18 LNER 212 BSK E16698E 18 LNER 296 CK E18403E 18 LNER 296 CK E18409E 18 BR 24 RB E1715 19 BR 146 SK E24571 19 BR 146 SK E24575 19 LNER 328 CK E1228E 19 LNER 328 CK E18503E 19 LNER 329 SK E1000E 19 LNER 329 SK E1435E 19 LNER 345 BCK E1140E 19 LNER 346 BSK E1938E 19 Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Non-corridor stock; the 'parallel universe' content will be self-apparent :- NON-CORRIDOR COACH STOCKLIST ORIGIN DIAGRAM TYPE NUMBER RAKE BR 311 C W41059 04 BR 371 BS W43104 04 BR 371 BS W43109 04 GWR E116 BC W7576W 05 GWR E116 BC W7577W 05 GWR E140 BC W6447W 06 GWR E140 BC W6448W 06 GWR A31 AUTOCOACH W203W 07 KIT GWR A31 AUTOCOACH W211W 07 KIT LMS 1736 CL M19183M 17 LMS 1737 BSL M25260M 17 LMS 1737 BSL M25270M 17 GWR A28 AUTOCOACH W179W 20 GWR A39 AUTOCOACH W220W THRUSH 20 Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 NPCCS; includes some highly unlikely interlopers :- NON-PASSENGER-CARRYING COACHING STOCKLIST ORIGIN DIAGRAM TYPE NUMBER RAKE BR 800 IFV (BLUE SPOT) E87123 21 BR 801 IFV (BLUE SPOT) E87713 21 BR 801 IFV (BLUE SPOT) E87719 21 GWR K 22 BG W1150W 21 GWR O 4 VFV (LOW SIPHON) W1870W 21 GWR S 6 FISH W2091W 21 GWR S 10 FISH (BLOATER) W2679W 21 LMS BG (PERIOD III) M31240M 21 LMS 2059 FISH M39464 21 LMS 2115 FISH M40327 21 BR 751 HB M96304 22 BR 751 HB S96412 22 GWR N 16 HB W663W 22 GWR N 16 HB W701W 22 GWR P 16 CCT (MONSTER) W491W 22 GWR P 19 CCT (PYTHON) W567W 22 GWR P 25 CCT W37237M 22 SR 3094 BY S14S 22 GWR O 38 MILK TANKER W2543 23 GWR O 39 MILK TANKER W2591 23 SR 3093 B S375S 23 GWR O 52 MILK TANKER W1954 24 GWR O 52 MILK TANKER W1963 24 LNER 358 BZ (THOMPSON) E70649E 24 GWR O 12 CCT (SIPHON H) W1430 25 GWR O 31 MILK VAN (SIPHON J) W2049W 25 GWR O 56 MILK TANKER B3186 25 GWR O 61 MILK TANKER B3198 25 LMS 1778 BG (PERIOD I) M30542M 25 LMS 1936 MILK VAN M38550M 25 LMS 1994 MILK TANKER M44038 25 KIT LMS 1994 MILK TANKER M44059 25 KIT LMS 2002 CREAM VAN CORRIDOR M38998M 25 BR 805 VFV (FRUIT D) W3415W 26 GWR K 40 BG W3W 26 GWR O 7 SAUSAGE VAN (SIPHON F) W1546W 26 GWR O 46 SAUSAGE VAN W2801W 26 LMS 1883A MEAT M38709 26 KIT LMS 1955 SAUSAGE VAN M38732M 26 LMS 1957 SAUSAGE VAN M38876M 26 LMS 1958 SAUSAGE VAN M38730M 26 LMS 2001 SAUSAGE VAN CORRIDOR M38878M 26 BR 711 BG M80748 27 BR 811 GUV S86732 27 LMS 2007 BG (PERIOD III) M30965M 27 SR 960 PMV (Ex SECR) S2005S 27 SR 3101 CCT S1753S 27 SR 3101 CCT S1765S 27 SR 3101 CCT S2453S 27 KIT SR 3103 PMV S1280S 27 KIT SR 3103 PMV S1327S 27 SR 3105 PMV (PLASTIC BODIED) S1407S 27 KIT BR 711 BG E80801 28 BR 815 CCT(Y) (PROTOTYPE) E94100E 28 GWR O 11 MILK VAN CORRIDOR (SIPHON G) W1280 28 GWR O 33 MILK VAN CORRIDOR (SIPHON G) W2938W 28 LMS 1929 CCT M35556M 28 LMS 2023 CCT M44315M 28 LMS 2042 CCT M34999 28 KIT BR 810 GUV (PROTOTYPE) W86500 29 BR 811 GUV W86470 29 BR 816 CCT E94341 29 BR 822 CARTIC-4 CAR TRANSPORTER 29 KIT GWR P 18 PMV(G) (GIANT) W591W 29 LMS 2000 BGZ (PERIOD III) M32915M 29 LMS 1870 CCT M37762M 30 LNER CCT© E1345E 30 LNER 327 BG (THOMPSON, MATCHBOARD) E70625E 30 KIT LNER 344 BG (THOMPSON, STEEL) E10E 30 LNER 120 BY (GRESLEY) E70214E 30 LNER 245 BG (GRESLEY) E70755E 30 SR 3098 PMV(G) S2355S 30 SR 3100 PMV(G) S2305S 30 SR 3182 CCT S4601S 30 Regards, John Isherwood. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I love that your diesels are named by power and wheel arrangement and not TOPS classification. Good luck with the build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2017 Sorry - a vital statistic - 9.5 x 3.0 metres or roughly 31' x 10'; in 4mm. scale. Regards, John Isherwood. 1) Given the stock that you have built, what is your minimum curve radius? 2) What other constraints (e.g. timber support struts) have you got in the loft? I ask because, in principle, you should be able to model it properly - including the junction, branch sidings, etc. I have considered it often enough and there was also a 4mm scale model built around 30 years ago (Shipley MRC???) which was about this size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1) Given the stock that you have built, what is your minimum curve radius? 2) What other constraints (e.g. timber support struts) have you got in the loft? I ask because, in principle, you should be able to model it properly - including the junction, branch sidings, etc. I have considered it often enough and there was also a 4mm scale model built around 30 years ago (Shipley MRC???) which was about this size. I think the Shipley layout had quite a few compromises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 1) Given the stock that you have built, what is your minimum curve radius? 2) What other constraints (e.g. timber support struts) have you got in the loft? I ask because, in principle, you should be able to model it properly - including the junction, branch sidings, etc. I have considered it often enough and there was also a 4mm scale model built around 30 years ago (Shipley MRC???) which was about this size. Joseph, My shunting plank has Peco Code 75 Medium Radius points in a back-to-back crossover formation, and all stock has to negotiate this. The proposed layout uses Peco Large Radius pointwork wherever possible, with a minimum of Medium Radius in low speed areas - mostly within the storage yard. The loft is going to need some quite extensive modification of the roof trusses and joists, plus the installation of a couple of Velux windows. Fortunately my brother is an architect! I could certainly accommodate the prototypical track layout of EJ within the loft - but not with the return curves and stock storage space that I need for a roundy-roundy, watch the trains go by layout. Regards, John Isherwood. Edited December 17, 2017 by cctransuk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 ..... and now the big 'un - freight stock. I like building wagons - can you tell? FREIGHT STOCKLIST ORIGIN DIAGRAM LOAD TYPE NUMBER BR CRANE MATCH WAGON (15T CRANE) DW107105 U/C BR 6.5 HAND CRANE 272 BR 10T ROADRAILER LOW OPEN B540001 BR 15T DIESEL PERMANENT WAY CRANE U/C BR DD 7 DRINKING WATER TANKER (2000gal) 100 KIT BR 1/001 13T LOWFIT OPEN B450040 BR 1/001 13T LOWFIT OPEN B450394 KIT BR 1/002 13T LOWFIT OPEN (STEEL) (Lot 2194) B450667 BR 1/002 13T LOWFIT OPEN (STEEL) (Lot 2998) B453287 BR 1/003 13T PIG IRON OPEN B451587 BR 1/018 13T SHOCK MEDIUM OPEN B474812 BR 1/019 13T MEDFIT OPEN B459967 BR 1/019 13T PALWAG PALLET BRICK OPEN B?????? KIT BR 1/022 16T PALBRICK B OPEN B462160 BR 1/032 13T HIGHFIT OPEN B475043 BR 1/033 13T HIGH OPEN B483733 KIT BR 1/035 12T SHOCK HIGH OPEN B721064 BR 1/036 12T SHOCK HYBAR OPEN B721312 BR 1/038 13T BRICK OPEN (EXPERIMENTAL) B748502 KIT BR 1/039 13T HYBARFIT OPEN (Lot 2179) B478136 BR 1/040 12T SHOCK HYBARFIT OPEN B722064 BR 1/042 13T HIGHFIT OPEN B483866 KIT BR 1/044 13T HIGHFIT OPEN B494955 BR 1/050 12T SHOCK HYBARFIT OPEN B724287 BR 1/051 13T CHINA CLAY (WOODEN) B743874 BR 1/055 21T FERRY HYBAR B715010 KIT BR 1/056 12T SHOCK HYBARFIT OPEN (Lot 3082) B? KIT BR 1/056 12T SHOCK HYBARFIT OPEN (Lot 3275) B725977 KIT BR 1/060 22T CONFLAT P B933249 KIT BR 1/061 13T CONFLAT A B735233 BR 1/061 13T CONFLAT A (Lot 2106, LMS U/F) B735019 BR 1/062 12T CONFLAT A B735833 BR 1/062 12T CONFLAT A B737393 BR 1/064 14T CONFLAT L B738545 KIT BR 1/064 14T CONFLAT L B?????1 KIT BR 1/065 12T CONFLAT A B739000 KIT BR 1/065 12T CONFLAT A B739492 KIT BR 1/065 12T CONFLAT A B739887 KIT BR 1/066 14T CONFLAT L B733778 BR 1/067 11T CONFLAT A B704307 BR 1/067 12T CONFLAT A B700007 BR 1/068 14T CONFLAT L B?????2 KIT BR 1/069 13T CONFLAT A B507347 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734575 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734576 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734577 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734578 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734579 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734580 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734581 BR 1/070 13T CONFLAT A B734582 BR 1/071 13T SAND B746398 BR 1/073 13T SAND B746763 BR 1/076 12T CONFLAT B B740327 BR 1/076 12T CONFLAT B B740503 BR 1/091 12T CARFIT B748050 KIT BR 1/098 MATCH WAGON B456201 BR 1/099 MATCH WAGON B456125 BR 1/100 16T MINERAL B9774 BR 1/100 16T MINERAL B197525 BR 1/102 16T MINERAL B15578 BR 1/102 16T MINERAL B20674 BR 1/106 16T MINERAL B67753 BR 1/106 16T MINERAL B67789 BR 1/108 16T MINERAL B555262 BR 1/108 16T MINERAL B87752 BR 1/108 16T MINERAL B231709 BR 1/108 16T MINERAL B241167 BR 1/108 16T MINERAL B550220 BR 1/108 16T MINERAL B131164 BR 1/109 16T MINERAL B261650 BR 1/110 21T MINERAL B200392 BR 1/111 16T MINERAL B138957 BR 1/112 16T MINERAL B193827 BR 1/114 16T MINERAL B68928 BR 1/115 24.5 MINERAL B281816 BR 1/117 16T MINERAL B58423 BR 1/120 21T MINERAL ? KIT BR 1/142 13T MINERAL HOPPER B400914 KIT BR 1/145 21T MINERAL HOPPER B416875 BR 1/145 21T MINERAL HOPPER B416905 BR 1/146 21T MINERAL HOPPER B422611 BR 1/148 24.5 MINERAL HOPPER B333064 BR 1/148 24.5 MINERAL HOPPER B333333 BR 1/150 20T COKE HOPPER B447342 BR 1/150 20T COKE HOPPER B447488 BR 1/151 20T COKE HOPPER B447650 BR 1/152 20T COKE HOPPER B448728 BR 1/152 20T COKE HOPPER B449170 BR 1/162 24T IRON ORE HOPPER B436265 BR 1/162 24T IRON ORE HOPPER B436284 BR 1/185 26T IRON ORE TIPPLER B388301 BR 1/190 ADAPTER WAGON FOR ROADRAILER B540901 BR 1/190 ADAPTER WAGON FOR ROADRAILER B540904 BR 1/190 ADAPTER WAGON FOR ROADRAILER B540906 BR 1/204 12T VANFIT B751695 BR 1/204 12T VANFIT B751712 BR 1/204 12T VANFIT B751761 BR 1/205 12T VAN B753389 BR 1/207 12T SHOCK VANFIT B850188 BR 1/208 12T VANFIT B761302 BR 1/208 12T VANFIT B763416 BR 1/208 12T VANFIT B765233 BR 1/208 12T VANFIT B771248 BR 1/208 12T VANFIT B778750 BR 1/208 12T VANFIT (EXPERIMENTAL) B778392 BR 1/210 24T POWDER HOPPER B886312 BR 1/210 24T POWDER HOPPER B886313 KIT BR 1/210 24T POWDER HOPPER B886832 BR 1/211 12T PALLET VAN (CLASP BRAKES) B779569 BR 1/211 12T PALLET VAN (MORTON BRAKES) B776539 BR 1/211 12T PALLET VAN (MORTON BRAKES) B776??? KIT BR 1/212 12T MARGARINE VAN B762318 KIT BR 1/212 12T MARGARINE VAN B762413 BR 1/213 12T VANFIT B765635 BR 1/213 12T VANFIT B776024 BR 1/214 12T END DOOR VAN B773255 KIT BR 1/214 12T END DOOR VAN B773259 KIT BR 1/218 12T SHOCK VANFIT B854929 BR 1/219 12T SHOCK PALLET VAN (SLIDING DOORS) B? KIT BR 1/220 12T SHOCK VANFIT B855028 BR 1/224 12T VANFIT B786165 BR 1/227 20.5 FERRY VAN B786873 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840001 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840002 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840005 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840014 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840018 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840021 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840037 BR 1/228 10T ROADRAILER VAN B840048 BR 1/230 12T FRUIT VAN (Lot 2018) B875121 BR 1/230 12T FRUIT VAN (Lot 2135) B875472 BR 1/232 12T FRUIT VAN B754489 BR 1/233 12T FRUIT VAN B875781 BR 1/242 8T BANANA VAN B880554 BR 1/242 8T BANANA VAN B880876 BR 1/243 8T BANANA VAN B881176 BR 1/244 8T BANANA VAN B881548 BR 1/246 12T BANANA VAN B881802 BR 1/246 12T BANANA VAN B881972 BR 1/250 10T ALE VAN (Ex MEAT) B870077 BR 1/250 10T ALE VAN (Ex MEAT) B870123 BR 1/250 10T VENTILATED MEAT VAN B870039 BR 1/251 10T INSUL-MEAT INSULATED VAN B872039 BR 1/251 10T INSUL-MEAT INSULATED VAN B872167 BR 1/261 11T GUNPOWDER B887151 BR 1/271 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) B885178 U/C BR 1/271 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) B885405 BR 1/271 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) B885500 BR 1/271 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) B885624 BR 1/271 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) B885702 BR 1/272 22T PRESFLO CEMENT HOPPER B873179 BR 1/272 22T PRESFLO CEMENT HOPPER B887804 BR 1/272 22T PRESFLO CEMENT HOPPER B887818 BR 1/272 22T PRESFLO SALT HOPPER (I.C.I.) B888189 BR 1/272 22T PRESFLO SALT HOPPER (I.C.I.) B888190 BR 1/274 20T PRESTWIN SILO WAGON B873004 BR 1/275 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) B885512 BR 1/275 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) B885600 BR 1/277 20T PRESTWIN SILO WAGON B873374 BR 1/291 14T FERRY VAN B889009 BR 1/292 14T FERRY VAN (BOGIE) B889201 BR 1/307 20T TANKER-TOWNSON TANKERS TT R1 BR 1/351 12T CATTLE B891313 KIT BR 1/352 12T CATTLE B892137 BR 1/353 8T CATTLE B893778 BR 1/353 8T CATTLE B893834 BR 1/353 8T CATTLE B893893 BR 1/353 8T CATTLE B894215 BR 1/400 13T SINGLE BOLSTER B910264 BR 1/401 13T SINGLE BOLSTER B913827 BR 1/401 42T STRIP COIL BOGIE OPEN B949007 KIT BR 1/431 22T WINKLE S&T OPEN DB? BR 1/434 22T PLATE OPEN B936517 BR 1/448 22T TUBE (BATTEN) OPEN B733213 BR 1/449 22T FERRY TUBE (BATTEN) OPEN B733225 BR 1/460 12T PIPE OPEN B740674 BR 1/461 12T PIPEFIT OPEN B740300 KIT BR 1/471 30T BOGIE BOLSTER C B943072 BR 1/471 30T PRAWN S.& T. BOGIE BOLSTER C DB997608 BR 1/472 42T BOGIE BOLSTER D B941249 KIT BR 1/472 42T BOGIE BOLSTER D B941621 KIT BR 1/479 30T BOGIE BOLSTER E B923314 BR 1/479 30T BOGIE BOLSTER E B923388 BR 1/482 50T BORAIL EC B946068 BR 1/492 42T BOPLATE OPEN B948261 BR 1/502 20T BRAKE B950583 BR 1/503 20T BRAKE B950248 BR 1/505 20T BRAKE B950122 BR 1/506 20T BRAKE B950866 BR 1/506 20T BRAKE B950914 BR 1/506 20T BRAKE B951535 BR 1/506 20T BRAKE B952516 BR 1/506 20T BRAKE B952519 BR 1/506 20T BRAKE B952543 BR 1/507 20T BRAKE B955162 BR 1/566 10T STARFISH BALLAST OPEN DB987026 BR 1/570 20T LAMPREY BALLAST OPEN DB991010 BR 1/572 20T GRAMPUS BALLAST OPEN DB984587 BR 1/572 20T GRAMPUS BALLAST OPEN DB986244 BR 1/573 14T MERMAID BALLAST TIPPER DB989069 BR 1/574 20T GRAMPUS BALLAST OPEN DB988588 BR 1/574 20T GRAMPUS BALLAST OPEN DB991538 BR 1/582 20T HERRING BALLAST HOPPER DB99???? KIT BR 1/583 17T MACKEREL BALLAST HOPPER DB992??? KIT BR 1/584 20T HERRING BALLAST HOPPER DB992??? KIT BR 1/585 40T WALRUS BOGIE BALLAST HOPPER DB991010 KIT BR 1/585 40T WALRUS BOGIE BALLAST HOPPER DB992491 BR 1/586 19T CATFISH BALLAST HOPPER DB992661 BR 1/587 24T DOGFISH BALLAST HOPPER DB992718 BR 1/597 20T SHARK BALLAST PLOUGH BRAKE DB993711 BR 1/620 14T MINNOW SLEEPER OPEN DB995503 BR 1/633 14T CREOSOTE TANKER (ANCHOR MOUNTED) DB998918 BR 1/636 22T CREOSOTE TANKER DB998988 BR 1/644 50T SALMON BOGIE RAIL WAGON B996357 BR 1/645 50T STURGEON A RAIL/SLEEPER/BALLAST WAGON DB994802 BR 1/646 50T SALMON BOGIE RAIL WAGON B996500 BR 2/001 40T ARM WE BOGIE ARMOUR PLATE FLAT B908502 BR 2/072 12T CONFLAT B B906804 BR 2/072 12T FLAT ED FLAT WAGON B906802 BR 2/150 40T GIRDER WAGON GIRDER WG (HALF) B90750? KIT BR 2/173 12T GLASS EP TRESTLE TROLLEY B902049 KIT BR 2/244 14T LOWMAC EK B905021 BR 2/246 25T LOWMAC WBB B904631 BR 2/246 25T LOWMAC WBB B904632 BR 2/294 8T CAR TRANSPORTER CARTIC-4 INNER B909501 KIT BR 2/294 8T CAR TRANSPORTER CARTIC-4 INNER B909502 KIT BR 2/295 8T CAR TRANSPORTER CARTIC-4 OUTER B909401 KIT BR 2/295 8T CAR TRANSPORTER CARTIC-4 OUTER B909402 KIT BR 2/490 21T TRESTLE EA OPEN B920145 BR 2/512 20T FLATROL MVV TROLLEY B900042 KIT BR 2/681 55T TRESTROL EC BOGIE TROLLEY B901600 BR 2/682 40T TRESTROL MO BOGIE TROLLEY B? KIT BR 2/900 20T FLATROL WW MACHINERY TROLLEY DB? KIT ExPO 8T CHINA CLAY (WOODEN) P351743 ExPO 13T CHINA CLAY (WOODEN) P270732 KIT ExPO 13T COKE (WOODEN) P99336 ExPO 13T MINERAL (WOODEN) P41319 ExPO 13T MINERAL (WOODEN) P99283 ExPO 13T MINERAL (WOODEN) P153893 ExPO 20T COKE HOPPER P203085 ExPO 21T IRON ORE HOPPER P138282 ExPO 21T IRON ORE HOPPER P218521 ExPO 21T IRON ORE HOPPER P390227 ExPO 21T IRON ORE HOPPER P8233 ExPO 21T MINERAL P160073K ExPO 21T MINERAL P193827 ExPO 21T MINERAL P332846 ExPO 21T MINERAL P339371K ExPO 21T MINERAL (WOODEN) P89192 ExPO 24T IRON ORE HOPPER P209924 ExPO 24T IRON ORE HOPPER P354881 GWR CRANE MATCH WAGON (1.5T CRANE) 611 GWR CRANE MATCH WAGON (6T CRANE) DW250 GWR 1.5T HAND CRANE 611 GWR 6T HAND CRANE 250 GWR C 2 65T WELTROL WH W41947 GWR C27 65T WELTROL WH W41973 GWR D 2 12T GLASS WB TRESTLE TROLLEY W41717 GWR G 9 12T CARTRUCK W42075 GWR G21 12T CARFIT W42179 KIT GWR G24 10T CAR VAN W42254 GWR G25 10T CAR VAN W42230 GWR G26 10T CAR VAN W116982 GWR G31 12T CAR VAN W126992 GWR H 6 12T CONFLAT A W39036 GWR H 7 12T CONFLAT W36488 GWR H 7 12T CONFLAT W39341 GWR H 8 12T CONFLAT A W39930 GWR H 9 12T CONFLAT W36050 KIT GWR H10 12T CONFLAT W36551 KIT GWR H11 12T CONFLAT W34984 KIT GWR J21 30T BOGIE BOLSTER C W84922 GWR J25 25T BOGIE BOLSTER A W107364 GWR J31 30T BOGIE BOLSTER C W17321 GWR L21 10T MATCH WAGON W48954 GWR L23 12T MATCH WAGON W32432 KIT GWR M 4 SHUNTERS TRUCK W94976 GWR N13 10T LOCO COAL W9766 GWR N14 40T LOCO COAL (BOGIE) W53991 GWR N23 21T MINERAL W109663 GWR N24 21T MINERAL W109956 GWR N24 21T MINERAL W110496 GWR N30 10T LOCO COAL W23611 GWR N33 13T LOCO COAL (WOODEN) W42732 KIT GWR O 5 10T CRANE MATCH WAGON (6.5T CRANE) DW10670 GWR O10 10T HYBARFIT OPEN W29999 GWR O11 10T HIGH OPEN W92169 GWR O13 12T CHINA CLAY (WOODEN) W92681 GWR O19 13T TUBE OPEN (OPEN C) W94834 GWR O29 13T HIGH OPEN W117426 GWR O29 13T HIGH OPEN W119970 GWR O30 13T HIGH OPEN (STEEL) W124174 GWR O30 13T HIGH OPEN (STEEL) W124189 GWR O34 13T TUBE OPEN W99612 GWR O35 13T MEDFIT OPEN (FOR DX CONTAINERS) W36459 KIT GWR O36 13T HIGH OPEN W110995 KIT GWR P22 20T HERRING BALLAST HOPPER DW????? KIT GWR P23 20T TUNNEY BALLAST OPEN DW80813 GWR R 1 16T ALE OPEN (Ex MANURE WAGON) W36985 KIT GWR T11 14T SLEEPER OPEN DW14713 GWR T12 16T TAUNTON CONCRETE OPEN DW100682 GWR T12 18T CHAIRED SLEEPER WAGON DW100675 GWR V 1 30T INTERNAL USER VAN 060268 GWR V 4 10T VANFIT W79253 KIT GWR V 5 10T VAN W79018 KIT GWR V 6 10T SAWDUST WAGON (Ex IRON MINK) DW241 GWR V 6 10T STATION STORES VAN DW57575 GWR V11 10T ENPARTS (Ex MINK D) DW28797 GWR V11 12T FRUIT VAN (Ex MINK D) W28798 GWR V16 10T VAN W100257 GWR V16 10T VAN W95915 GWR V20 20T GRAIN HOPPER (WOODEN) W42239 GWR V21 12T VANFIT W114488 GWR V25 20T GRAIN HOPPER (STEEL) W? U/C GWR V26 12T PARTITIONED VAN W126938 GWR V28 12T SHOCK VANFIT W139547 GWR V30 8T ALE VAN (Ex CATTLE) W38659 GWR W 1 12T CATTLE W38775 GWR W 1 12T CATTLE W38877 GWR W 5 12T CATTLE W68416 GWR W 7 6T SPECIAL CATTLE VAN W?W KIT GWR W 8 12T CATTLE W106431 GWR W10 12T CATTLE W106289 GWR W11 12T CATTLE W106679 GWR W12 12T CATTLE W106709 GWR X 7 8T VENT-INSUL-MEAT VAN W79950 GWR X 8 8T VENT-INSUL-MEAT VAN W105872 GWR X 9 8T INSUL-MEAT INSUL. VAN W105821 GWR Y 4 10T BANANA VAN W93370 KIT GWR Y 6 10T BANANA VAN W79348 GWR Y 6 10T BANANA VAN W79354 KIT GWR Y 7 10T BANANA VAN W105642 KIT GWR Y 8 12T FRUIT VAN W134241 GWR Y 8 12T FRUIT VAN W134251 GWR Y 8 12T FRUIT VAN W134312 GWR Y10 8T FRUIT VAN (Ex CATTLE) W106200 GWR Z 2 10T GUNPOWDER W105557 GWR AA14 24T P.W. BRAKE DW14678 GWR AA15 20T BRAKE W56735 GWR AA16 10T S.& T. TOOL VAN DW80796 GWR AA20 20T BRAKE W68816 GWR CC 7 10T S.& T. TOOL VAN DW80987 KIT GWR CC 8 10T M.& E. TOOL & PACKING VAN DW143 KIT GWR DD TWIN GAS TANK W104W KIT LMS 11D 30T BORAIL DM748319 LMS 11D 30T BORAIL DM748326 LMS 19F 50T BORAIL MD M720941 LMS 54A 25T LOWMAC MO M? KIT LMS 135A 60T TRANSFORMER MA M168906 KIT LMS 1659 20T BRAKE M357532 LMS 1660 10T BANANA VAN M310554 LMS 1661 12T CATTLE M14400 LMS 1663 12T VAN M5803 LMS 1664 12T VAN M330393 KIT LMS 1665 11T GUNPOWDER M287211 LMS 1666 13T HIGH OPEN M153532 LMS 1666 13T HIGH OPEN M156572 KIT LMS 1666 13T HIGH OPEN M234418 KIT LMS 1666 13T HIGH OPEN M282102 LMS 1666 13T HIGH OPEN M363284 LMS 1671 13T MINERAL (WOODEN) M601823 KIT LMS 1672A 8T INSUL-MEAT INSULATED VAN M189544 LMS 1675 22T TUBE OPEN M499107 LMS 1675 22T TUBE OPEN M499435 LMS 1708 40T MINERAL HOPPER (BOGIE) M189314 LMS 1729 20T COKE HOPPER M299943 LMS 1805 16T OYSTER BALLAST PLOUGH BRAKE DM197265 LMS 1806 20T CEMENT HOPPER M299894 LMS 1830 12T VAN M186000 LMS 1840 12T CATTLE M? KIT LMS 1840 12T CATTLE M?? KIT LMS 1890 20T BRAKE M296784 LMS 1892 13T HIGHFIT OPEN M411459 LMS 1927 13T MEDFIT OPEN M470273 LMS 1940 20T BRAKE M295516 LMS 1950 13T SINGLE BOLSTER M722700 LMS 1951 20T SODA ASH M689009 KIT LMS 1973 21T LOCO COAL M750004 LMS 1976 12T CONFLAT M705314 LMS 1978 12T VAN M511666 LMS 1978 12T VANFIT M510751 LMS 1986 13T LOWFIT OPEN M460928 KIT LMS 2022 16T SODA ASH M689143 KIT LMS 2036 20T BRAKE M731188 LMS 2069 20T PLATE OPEN M498?? ? KIT LMS 2070 12T VAN M515214 KIT LMS 2077 9T TWIN CASE M315810 KIT LMS 2077 9T TWIN CASE M600828 KIT LMS 2078 12T VAN M523511 LMS 2079 12T VANFIT M521487 LMS 2080 12T FLATCASE M72156 LMS 2088 12T VANFIT M521120 LMS 2097 12T VANFIT M521893 KIT LMS 2098 12T HADDOCK SLEEPER OPEN DM749325 LMS 2102 13T MINERAL M609865 LMS 2102 13T MINERAL M609935 LMS 2105 21T DOUBLE BOLSTER M726533 LMS 2108 12T FISH VAN M525333 LMS 2109 16T MINERAL M616285 KIT LMS 2109 16T MINERAL M616703 LMS 2109 16T MINERAL M616732 LMS 2109 16T MINERAL M617620 LMS 2111 10T BANANA VAN M570092 LMS 2134 16T MINERAL M620280 LMS 2152 12T SHOCK MEDIUM OPEN M489000 LMS ExLNW 16T FLATROL (CHEMICAL PAN TROLLEY) M249995 LMS ExMR 8T CATTLE M23014 LMS ExMR 8T INTERNAL USER VAN 013958 LMS ExMR 20T SIX-WHEEL BRAKE M17 LMS ExMR 20T SIX-WHEEL BRAKE (Dia.1045?) M495 LNER 3 13T HIGH OPEN E40531 LNER 8 25T BOPLATE OPEN E139523 LNER 12 20T COKE HOPPER (WOODEN) E162100 LNER 14 12T VAN E151253 LNER 14 12T VAN E167463 LNER 16 12T VANFIT E151467 LNER 28 45T BOGIE FLAT ES *BOGIE BOLSTER D? E139627 LNER 60 12T CONFLAT C E159738 LNER 60 12T CONFLAT C E159740 LNER 63 13T MINERAL (WOODEN) E224464 LNER 64 20T BRAKE (TOAD E) E168026 LNER 64 20T BRAKE (TOAD E) E178595 LNER 69 50T SULPHATE BOGIE OPEN E164830 LNER 70 50T BOGIE BRICK OPEN E163535 LNER 70 50T BOGIE BRICK OPEN E163555 LNER 70 50T BOGIE BRICK OPEN E163559 LNER 73 20T GRAIN HOPPER (WOODEN) E164884 LNER 77 21T LOCO COAL (WOODEN) E308552 LNER 92 13T HIGHFIT OPEN E218003 LNER 94 12T VANFIT E175011 LNER 100 21T MINERAL HOPPER E193254 LNER 100 21T MINERAL HOPPER E193265K LNER 100 21T MINERAL HOPPER E289595K LNER 102 12T VANFIT E186548 KIT LNER 102 12T VANFIT E? KIT LNER 104 13T CONFLAT S E178128 LNER 104 13T CONFLAT S E183531 LNER 105 40T BOGIE BOLSTER D E? KIT LNER 109 13T LOWFIT OPEN E230164 LNER 116 12T VANFIT E211312 LNER 120 13T HIGHFIT OPEN E214021 KIT LNER 127 12T PIPEFIT OPEN E204395 LNER 132 10T CATTLE E156201 LNER 134 10T FISH VAN E230027 LNER 134 10T INSUL-FISH INSULATED VAN E230068 LNER 137 13T MINERAL HOPPER (WOODEN) E204086 LNER 152 12T FRUIT VAN E222632 KIT LNER 152 12T VANFIT E222378 LNER 157 13T CONFLAT S E240798 KIT LNER 161 12T VANFIT E236698 KIT LNER 171 12T VANFIT E256761 LNER 173 25T LOWMAC EP E? KIT LNER 186 13T HIGH OPEN (STEEL) E277531 LNER 188 16T MINERAL E291452 LNER 190 13T HIGH OPEN (STEEL) E279203 LNER 195 12T VANFIT E298022 KIT LNER 196 22T PLATE OPEN E292111 LNER 197 13T SINGLE BOLSTER (STEEL) E292371 LNER 207 21T LOCO COAL E300316K LNER 214 12T BLUE SPOT INSULATED FISH VAN E75305 LNER 214 12T BLUE SPOT INSULATED FISH VAN E75575 LNER 215 13T SODA ASH HYBAR OPEN E277544 PO INSULATED FERRY VAN-INTERFRIGO 524113 PO TIERWAG BOGIE CAR WAGON-M.A.T. ? PO 18T FERRY CHEMICAL TANKER - I.C.I. (DYESTUFFS) 352 PO 50T WARFLAT ? PO 50T WARWELL 1 PO 10T CEMENT VAN-BLUE CIRCLE 177 KIT PO 10T CEMENT VAN-FERROCRETE 167 PO 10T CLASS B TANKER (TWIN)-SHELL BP 1581 KIT PO 10T SALT VAN (PEAKED ROOF)-SAXA 255 PO 12T CLASS B TANKER-SHELL BP 1244 PO 14T CLASS A TANKER (ANCHOR MOUNTED) - REGENT 24 PO 14T CLASS A TANKER-ESSO 1210 KIT PO 14T CLASS A TANKER-SHELL 1746 PO 14T CLASS B TANKER (ANCHOR MOUNTED) - REGENT 65 PO 14T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 2760 PO 14T CLASS B TANKER-SHELL BP 3951 PO 14T TAR TANKER-B.& W.T.D. 73 PO 14T TAR TANKER-B.& W.T.D. 76 PO 16.5T FERRY CHEMICAL TANKER - I.C.I. (ARCTON) 500400 PO 20T AMMONIA TANKER-I.C.I. 98 PO 20T AMMONIA TANKER-W.D. 339 PO 20T CLASS A TANKER-ESSO ? KIT PO 20T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 2300 PO 20T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 2317 PO 20T CLASS B TANKER-SHELL BP 3967 PO 20T FERRY CHEMICAL TANKER - I.C.I. 500721 PO 20T METHANOL TANKER-I.C.I. 308 PO 20T METHANOL TANKER-I.C.I. 382 PO 22T AMMONIA TANKER-FISONS M12/47 PO 22T CEMENT VAN-A.P.C.M. ? KIT PO 22T CLASS A TANKER-ESSO 3200 PO 22T CLASS A TANKER-ESSO 4305 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 3300 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 3307 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 3313 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 3317 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 3331 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-ESSO 3362 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-FINA 237 PO 22T CLASS B TANKER-REGENT 323 PO 22T NITROGEN LIQUOR TANKER-FISONS M12/34 PO 36T CAUSTIC LIQUOR TANKER-I.C.I. 5600 PO 36T CAUSTIC LIQUOR TANKER-I.C.I. 5601 PO 36T CAUSTIC LIQUOR TANKER-I.C.I. 5695 PO 36T CAUSTIC LIQUOR TANKER-I.C.I. 5702 PO ?T CLASS B TANKER-SHELL BP 4017 PO 6/042 20T CHLORINE TANKER-I.C.I. 701 PO 6/043 14T CHLORINE TANKER-I.C.I. 1307 PO 6/043 14T PHOSGENE TANKER-I.C.I. 1297 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA 3 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA15 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA18 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA20 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA21 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA22 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA24 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA26 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA29 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA45 PO 6/433 27T CEMFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE LA67 PO 6/472 22T PRESFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE PF1 PO 6/472 22T PRESFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE PF5 PO 6/472 22T PRESFLO CEMENT HOPPER - BLUE CIRCLE PF9 PO 6/613 14T CHLORINE TANKER-ASSOCIATED OCTEL 907 PO SFV6120 20T FERRY CLASS A TANKER - TRAFFIC SERVICES 500833 PO SFV6121 20T FERRY CLASS B TANKER - TRAFFIC SERVICES 500827 SR 10T LOCO SAND DS178085 SR 45T STEAM BREAKDOWN CRANE SET DS1561 KIT SR 45T STEAM BREAKDOWN CRANE SET DS???? SR 1317 15T STONE OPEN S61124 KIT SR 1320 12T GRAIN OPEN WITH SHEET RAIL S8875 SR 1376 12T SHOCK HIGH OPEN S14042 KIT SR 1377 13T HIGHFIT OPEN S37625 KIT SR 1379 13T HIGH OPEN S30215 KIT SR 1383 15T CONFLAT D S39545 KIT SR 1386 21T LOCO COAL (WOODEN) S402?? KIT SR 1386 21T LOCO COAL (WOODEN) S40835 SR 1400 13T HIGHFIT OPEN S11728 KIT SR 1428 12T VANFIT S47830 KIT SR 1429 10T VAN S45582 SR 1452 12T VANFIT S54273 SR 1454 12T VANFIT (ARC ROOF) S65980 SR 1455 12T VANFIT S65929 SR 1458 10T VANFIT S49820 SR 1458 12T VANFIT S64921 SR 1458 12T VANFIT S64930 SR 1458 12T VANFIT (PEAKED ROOF) S49363 SR 1459 12T VANFIT (PARTITIONED) S49190 SR 1476 10T INSUL-MEAT REFRIGERATED VAN S? KIT SR 1477 10T INSUL-MEAT INSULATED VAN S? KIT SR 1478 10T BANANA VAN S50609 KIT SR 1478 10T BANANA VAN S? KIT SR 1479 10T BANANA VAN S50787 KIT SR 1486 10T VENTILATED MEAT VAN S51153 SR 1529 10T CATTLE S53780 KIT SR 1530 10T CATTLE S52345 KIT SR 1541 10T BRAKE S54730 SR 1550 25T BOGIE BRAKE S56297 SR 1550 25T BOGIE BRAKE S56306 KIT SR 1560 25T P.W. BRAKE DS55478 SR 1576 20T BRAKE S55907 KIT SR 1578 25T BRAKE S55985 KIT SR 1579 25T BRAKE S56094 SR 1581 15T BRAKE S55693 KIT SR 1582 25T BRAKE S55147 SR 1731 8T LOCO DEPT. OPEN DS61732 SR 1749 20T SHARK BALLAST PLOUGH BRAKE DS62523 KIT SR 1771 20T TUNNEY BALLAST OPEN DS62004 KIT SR 1772 40T WALRUS BOGIE BALLAST HOPPER DS62014 KIT SR 1773 15T LING BALLAST OPEN DS63021 KIT SR 1774 40T WALRUS BOGIE BALLAST HOPPER DS62043 SR 1775 40T WALRUS BOGIE BALLAST HOPPER DS62058 Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 You will need quite a bit of storage. Did you say that everything was kit built? Don't forget, everything stopped at Evercreech Junction to take water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) You will need quite a bit of storage. Did you say that everything was kit built? Don't forget, everything stopped at Evercreech Junction to take water. Stock is from any and all sources - ancient Hornby Dublo, Tri-ang and Trix bodies, (detailed and rechassised), via every type and make of kit you can think of, to off-the-shelf RTR where it is of sufficient accuracy and quality. The designation 'KIT' in my stocklists can indicate a full kit, down to a few suitable castings / etches, with wheels and couplings, to assist with scratchbuilding; (I use Peco / Hornby Dublo couplings exclusively). If this project ever comes to fruition, running sessions will be either prototypical movements in sequence, with water stops compulsory; or roundy-roundy (non-stopping) trains whilst the operator indulges in yard shunting - as the mood takes !! Regards, John Isherwood. Edited December 17, 2017 by cctransuk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Stock is from any and all sources - ancient Hornby Dublo, Tri-ang and Trix bodies, (detailed and rechassised), via every type and make of kit you can think of, to off-the-shelf RTR where it is of sufficient accuracy and quality. The designation 'KIT' in my stocklists can indicate a full kit, down to a few suitable castings / etches, with wheels and couplings, to assist with scratchbuilding; (I use Peco / Hornby Dublo couplings exclusively). If this project ever comes to fruition, running sessions will be either prototypical movements in sequence, with water stops compulsory; or roundy-roundy (non-stopping) trains whilst the operator indulges in yard shunting - as the mood takes !! Regards, John Isherwood. As it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Personally I'd rethink this one – you have an enormous amount of space at your disposal relative to most folks but it's almost entirely full of straight track work – unlike the real location. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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