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I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in the R.O. - they used to have a yearly(?) update on liveries, certainly in the 70s EDIT: Jan 1979 edition has 'class 01 - black, cabside emblems above cabside numbers'. A quick check on Flickr shows them black, but also has more than one person saying they could look mucky dark green at times http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=class+01+holyhead

Is that the one that became lab 14 'wren' ? http://departmentals.com/photo/975427 http://80srail.zenfolio.com/p584131236/h2F83482E#h2f83482e

Had to get a train to Aberdeen t'other day and took a couple of quick phone snaps. First, a general view North - note the lack of track! On this, the down side, only the loop still exists and on the up side, nothing. IIRC the loading bank siding was the last to go. Crossover has an up to down position light signal with indicator, presumably can show down main or loop? Incidentally, just off the south end of this platform there's a position light signal. IIRC this is a 'limit of shunt', i.e. permanent 2 reds Interesting relic just off the up platform, does anyone know what this shed was for? Note the telegraph pole too. (Can't seem to get this one the right way up)

Noticed a 'CARLISLE 225' milepost today - just off the north end of down platform at stonehaven! Presumably the 'miles from Edinburgh' end at the site of kinnaber jn.?

Could always say it's one of the ones that ended up at Inverness for scrapping, but got 'borrowed' on the way up As you say, you like it and that's all that matters. Nice subtle weathering and such realistic pics make it look right at home! Great stuff as usual dave

a quick look at google streetview shows what's left: http://goo.gl/maps/QFlqj can't remember if it's been mentioned already in this thread, but the station was originally on the other side of st. clair st. 1894: http://maps.nls.uk/view/82881924#zoom=6&lat=5303&lon=4568&layers=BT 1914: http://maps.nls.uk/view/82881927#zoom=6&lat=5424&lon=4502&layers=BT presumably moved to aid the expansion of the down goods yard, which gained a loop off the mainline EDIT: compared the maps and the goods yard doesn't really expand - the down loop is lengthened and has a small headshunt

The interesting van at king's Lynn looks like a steam heat boiler van - for preheating coaching stock

Possibly a deliberate tilt failure, the tilt jacks on individual vehicles could be positioned as required by the engineers on the train. ISTR running with cars stuck at max. tilt was quite common - used to test comfort/safety/handling in a worst case scenario. Presumably also for gauging purposes - vehicles were designed to be ‘in gauge‘ at max. tilt but this would depend on the speed (due to effects on the kinematic envelope)Unfortunately, this sometimes happened (unplanned) to the APT-P while in service - but at least the train could continue at reduced speed

2 minutes to midnight - iron maiden

I'll be checking that out soon, spent many holidays with relatives in Arbroath through my younger years. Never realised till years later the scale of the station away from the mainline. IIRC the goods yard was only cleared a couple of years ago?

completely out of my era/area but thank you for posting such wonderful pics. The composition and quality are amazing, yet without fuss - a proper, historical record of locations (and not just the stations/railway but everything around them too)

I saw dunnikier rd. blocked off then too, but forgot to post about it!I presume it was an easier job than might otherwise have been, as the 'mainline' span was replaced a few years back with a concrete deck. The harbour branch span was still the old metalwork and in a pretty poor state (visible on Google street view) so removing this would be less likely to affect the other. The parapets have been finished with about 3 courses of breezeblocks (or similar), the grey matches the side walls quite well.

more great pics jeff! love the cl.47/7s looking nice'n'shiny in their new paint - still think they looked better in ScotRail livery i notice in the pic of 73105+73128 they are in multiple - was this around the time they were used in pairs in the scratch REP/TC sets? (whilst the REPs had their traction gear removed for use in the neww 442s) Or were there any other workings which would use 2 x 73/1?

The un-ID'd 33 at stewarts lane will be 33056 'the Burma star' Pale blue nameplate with a shield below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64143583@N04/6899107651/ Anyone know why the nameplate was changed from red to blue? Did it happen when the loco went into sector colours?

That coach was a one-off, mounted on two BT12 bogies. In the linked pic, it is between a power car and a TBF as these are the only other vehicles to have non-articulated ends to couple to. Otherwise it ran and tilted the same as the rest of the train and iirc was built as a test-bed for what may have been the production APT (and I suppose eventually, the 91+mk4 sets)

How common was the black(or blue?) cab roof? No doubt an attempt to disguise the exhaust staining. Also, how common were cl.253 sets at king's cross?(nearest set in the buffer stop line-up pic) I thought they were either WR or NE-SW services

Wasn't the salmon logo on 81002 for Shields Road Glasgow? iirc it was a salmon with a ring in its mouth, part of the Glasgow coat of arms EDIT: had a chance to search for a close-up http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackwatch55013/5511992269/

The passenger doors on the mk3s are quite heavily 'sculpted' below waist level, presumably to keep them in gauge on sharper curves

just wondered if the under frame casings have an effect on clearances especially near track level?

Isn't this already the case on some newer London Underground stations? there are clear walls with sliding doors which the trains have to line up with - all to prevent 'one-unders'

lovely modelling as always Brian The main difference between the two that I can see is that the 'box one has windscreen grommets more prominent than on the skinhead? (or is it just the photo makes it look like that?)

Doesn't help with the Strathmore line as such, but 1969 ScR Sec.app. has 'mail bag apparatus' at carmuirs West jn., blackford, laurencekirk and stonehaven - all on the up ( presumably s/bound?) side Incidentally, the 13.30 ab-glas in the winter '64 PTM book mentioned is shown as basically a 3-hour set with extra vehicles: BSK FK RMB 2*SK, SK (Fridays only), BSK BG, XFISH (Saturdays excepted) The XFISH is noted as a 6-wheel van, most of the faster services are noted as N.F.W. (no 4-whl vehicles with w/b less than 15ft) Similarly, the 9.30 is shown as: BSK FK RU 3*SK BSK BG PMV(MX) XFISH(SX) On this, the fish van is for Bristol and is detached at Stirling, going forward on a Euston service Actually, I'm assuming they mean XFISH (6-whl) and not just FISH (4-whl) as there doesn't seem to be any other meaning for the 'X' as listed

Chi Trevor on Flickr has some A4 pics from June '66 starting here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevs_trains/2892567495/in/set-72157602197746115

It was the passenger train marshalling book 9/64 - 6/65 that I quoted from! There was a message on the Yahoo group recently from someone who was involved on the coaching stock side at the time, he said he tried to keep his best CW bogied mk1s for these trains. There must've been a fair bit of pre-nat stock still around, for these trains to be specced for mk1s.

Interesting weathering on the two 56s, in that it's practically the same on both! Big grotty patch above no.2 bogie and the 3 vertical marks below the rad grilles at no.1 end. If you did that on 2 models it would look dodgy :-)