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Interesting pic - must be a fairly important train, RKB with Met-Camm (former Pullman) FO for dining. Seems odd to me seeing a 37 on a long, mainline train but of course they were used on the GE trains to non-electrified destinations.

Preventative measures will stop the vast majority of people from doing whatever is being prevented but those who are determined to do it will always find a way. Which of these do you mitigate for? The difficulty is finding the compromise between reasonable/practicable prevention and 'complete' eradication of the risk - the latter is impossible but how far do you go (practcally and financially)? Just because something potentially saves one life doesn't necessarily mean it's sensible or desirable to keep throwing money/resources at solving the problem.

Don't know if it was mentioned already but weren't BR-owned ships Class 99 on TOPS? Did that include the Train Ferries mentioned above?

Should they though? WCRC couldn't/wouldn't even comply with the Exemption already granted i.e. they were given the chance to do things their way (with specified conditions) but, even then, failed to do so. In an increasingly safety-critical industry, WCRC had already been given the benefit of doubt - not any more.

Looking at Google Streetview, all of the quayside roads are tarmac or monobloc with no sign of any rails showing through. A lot of the roads past the top left of the Inner Basin have been obliterated since the '60/70s with the building of the dual carriageway & associated main roads through the town.

No, that's just a boat yard for building/repairing. The photo shows the (outer) tidal harbour basin and you can just make out (to the left of the two fishing boats) the gap through to the inner basin which, up until the '70s, could have fishing boats berthed 2 or 3 deep around the wall. The small lifting bridge over the slipway gave access to the outer wall/pier on the right (stretching some way behind the camera on the right). The lifeboat station was off scene to the left, behind the camera. Walked across that little bridge and around the harbour many times while on holiday, staying with relatives up near the Abbey. Good times☺️ EDIT: Current satellite view, orange arrow shows viewpoint of camera in Dave's pic: 1923 OS 25-inch map shows the Branch tracks around the harbour (tracks top left lead to Arbroath station.)

Maybe just a blown exhaust pipe or loose joint under the coach. Probably not very pleasant on board, as it would be easy for the fumes to end up inside.

Agreed, does seem strange. Departmentals.com just lists it as an HST barrier: https://www.departmentals.com/photo/975999

A point often missed is that tartan paint should really be applied with a left-handed brush.

This seems to be the same set from the other end (and a different barrier coach on the other end - any standard Mk1 or 2 coach would do) Generator van 975325 was the only one able to supply the 415V 3-phase required by HST stock. By Robert Tarling on Flickr "Bath Road-allocated 47558 'Mayflower' heads north at Nibley on 1E42, the 1119 Paignton - York with the 'Generator Set' rake comprising Generator Van 975325, HST set PM47, and barrier coach 975981."

Looks like a pre-nat Test Car, I think there were a couple of ex-GWR/LMS coaches used. EDIT: might be Test Car 3, ex-LMS Dynamometer Car No.3 M45049 http://www.traintesting.com/test_car_3.htm Notice there is a window in the coach end.

Even more interesting would be the Ruston 4-wh loco (numbered 20) used before the cl.06.

The New Haven FL9 electro-diesels were also Bo-A1A. Based on the Bo-Bo FP9, the body was extended to provide room for a train-heat boiler and other equipment, so the rear bogie became an A1A (think it also gave more room to fit the 3rd rail shoes).

@Oldddudders so it was. For some reason, I had it in my head suffixes started in '61 and yet I knew D was '66! I blame my age.....🙂

The cl.26 & 27 had a bodyside window which hinged inwards IIRC to allow the filling of the boiler water from a column.

You mean to say there was a generation of signalmen who were terrified to put a lever back in the frame lest it take their hand off?😊

No idea but as long's its ETH was AC, then it's fine 🤪

One of the problems encountered was glass panes falling out. When using conventional frames, the size of the glass has a certain size (with tolerance) as there is a frame to hold it in. With the grommeted glass, it needs to be slightly larger to more accurately match the actual aperture - otherwise the required tight fit isn't tight enough.

Apologies to everyone for the continued OT Dudding Hill line discussion. Northbound cabride video from Acton Yard to St. Pancras via DH from 2020 (no sound, by RailMart) Acton Wells Jcn at 11:15 There used to be a different video with sound but can't find it. Southbound cabride from Neasden Engineers' Siding to Acton Yard in 2017 (by Freight Rambler)

I don't know if the reg. no. is clearer on the negative/slide Dave but any number (or part of) can be searched for here: https://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/searchreg.asp I thought it ended in '100C' but that search didn't give a match. As an aside, some Daimler Fleetlines used the Alexander AD body and so looked like the Leyland Atlantean pictured above. There were also NCME and ECW-bodied examples but they had a flatter, plainer front and lacked the curved front of the upper deck. (That was my first thought as we had Fleetlines in Fife - the only Atlanteans I was aware of then were those in Edinburgh/Glasgow which had the large 'panoramic' saloon windows)

Presumably RAIB will be taking great interest in this, there have been a few incidents in fairly recent years where passengers started detraining themselves - with all the risks that poses, be it getting out of & off the train or whether the adjacent lines are still 'live' (as in trains running). Regardless of causes of the shut-down, I suspect there will be a very close look into why the passengers were not evacuated sooner. I know I wouldn't want to be a Driver or TM being left to deal with a full train of stranded passengers for an indefinite time. They can only pass on the info they have and after a certain length of time, they must surely be worried for their own safety as frustrations boil over.

Looks to me like OR but I don't know enough about the lines/locations to know what it could be referring to.

Cheers for that Nidge. Just looked at the CartoMetro map and see the northbound connection at NJ to Neasden (Met/Chiltern) but the main connection at DH is to the MML not the WCML as I mistakenly remembered. (Down WCML via ACW, Up via AWJ & NSW sidings)

@Rugd1022 So the Dudding Hill line is still semaphore then, Nidge? Have watched a lot of cab-ride videos of the area (admittedly filmed a few years ago now) and while the NLL/WLL have colourlights and electrification for their modern trains, the DH line still looked like a '60s line with its mechanical 'boxes and semaphores. Does it see much traffic these days or is it still a kind of 'forgotten' alternative route?

No way I would be there but I was reading about the cars in 1978, first year I'd seen & bought the Daily Express Guide to British Cars. I don't think it was a direct tie-in but I'm sure it came out in time for the Motor Show. An A-Z of all cars with a photo, description & tech. spec., with some topical articles as well.