Andy Mac

Fingers crossed you get it at the reduced amount, but if I was a betting man, i’d Say that Hattons will not honour that price.... Copy and paste from Hattons... Pricing policy The price you pay will be the current price advertised on www.hattons.co.uk excluding any items that have been priced in error. In the event these circumstances occur you will be notified before any price adjustments are made and given the option to accept or reject the revised order.

The problem is they have sold out almost overnight....that’s not going to persuade them they have the colours all wrong.... I tried to have a conversation with them a few months ago through Facebook, and then just point blank refused to accept, in any manner, that their colours were wrong.... as far as they are concerned every other version, be it Dapol, Bachmann, Hornby, Lima, they all had it wrong and that they are the only ones who have it right...

Well I gave in.... I was sitting on the fence with these.... I had cancelled my pre order a while ago when it was obvious Oxford wern’t Going to change the paint spec’s.... I was waiting to see them in real life.... then they seemed to start disappearing really quickly.... Hattons sold out in 48hrs, rails intimating they are selling fast... so ordered some, and I suppose they’ll go into the list of jobs to be done....an eventual respray of the grey in the future..... My thinking was it was the lesser of two evils to acquire the coachs and redo the grey, rather than try and source other coaches...

I have purchased enough stock for my future 80’s/90’s/00’s/modern image layout set on a terminus station/Branchline/depot/industrial site/roundly round.... I haven’t quite decided what i’ll Build but seem to have acquired everything to cover all possibilities!

Save yourself the agony Andy..... Take laptop to pub....at 12 noon, publish the news.... at 12.01pm switch laptop off.....at 12.02pm partake of first pint of cider... about 11pm, remember to go home.... No matter what you or Bachmann say or do, there will still be all the same soul destroying comments.... Thanks for all the hard work and effort you put in.... I really do appreciate what you do....

But they are lovely boxes....... Like you I have an awful lot in boxes with only a small fraction getting a run.... I think that there might be a psychological issue to it... when I was a youngster in the 70’s and 80’s, I loved my train set and everything to do with the hobby.... unfortunately money was tight in those days and a new purchase was really only an occasional/annual luxury... I remember the excitement of my birthday or Christmas as that was the only time I got a new box....there was so much in the Hornby catalogue that I wanted, but just never could afford.... now 30/40 years later i’m Lucky I have some spare income, and seem to have amassed a fleet of loco’s/wagons/coaches that never really get any regular use.... I put it down to maybe over compensating for not being able to afford very much in my past...

I think pre ordering will become more common in the future as the manufacturers continue to trim their production runs and the frequency of models selling out on preorder increases... Today, you can still get away with not preordering, but you need to keep an eye on this forum for clues as to a models popularity and keep a watch on the online shops for availability....

38.4 million vehicles on the road, according to google.... Most people in the UK need a car as a necessity, There’s maybe a couple of tens of thousand modellers/collectors(I don’t know the number), and models are really not a necessity.....

What makes you think Hornby are not going to make anymore mk3 coaches? Hornby have announced new tooling for the Mk3 sliding door version which caters for the current updated and future versions... Hornby have also been upgrading their exisiting mk3 coaches.... couple of years ago they got a minor revamp, tinted windows, some got lighting... Last years release of the Mk3 saw a further improvement with an improved coupling system... Seems bizarre to think that after investing in both new tooling and updating the existing tooling that they are not going to release any more coaches. Hornby tend to release their mk3 coaches in liveries that tie in with their HST power car releases, so this year they have 3 modern livery power cars, which is great for modern image modellers, and the corresponding liveried coaches.... You’ll probably not get your intercity swallow mk3’s till Hornby release another run of the power cars or if your lucky they release them as a Mk3a set and you pull the buffers off. It’ll be a brave company that introduces another mk3 coach to the market, with 3 toolings in place. The market has shown that 3 or 4 companies producing the same models just doesn’t work.... ie class 47 Heljan, Hornby, Bachmann and Vitrains, and 37 with Hornby, Bachmann and vitrains....

Thank goodness someone else remembers that announcement.... for some reason the most people seemed to equate Bachmanns substantial annual price increases with increased salaries for the factory workers...whilst i’m Sure that part of the yearly increase does go towards updating wages, the other part goes to increasing the profit margins...

The Scotrail Mk2f’s.... what is the correct consist for them? Is it 4 or 5 TSO”s plus a BSO? Are they still used on the fife circle? Normally i’d Pre order, but after getting the Hornby spotrail class 156 when it was released and being disappointed in the livery and colours used, it was far too light, i’ll Maybe just wait and see what they are like once released...

Looking at the prices, £144 for the loco, £204 for the pack..... it’s either good value for the full fat version, or, what’s more likely, the going rate for the loco and 3 railroad models.... like you, I wish the manufacturers would make it clear what are the high detailed toolings and the lower quality railroad toolings.....

I’ve (fortunately) got the virgin liveried model on preorder at £129.50...... the new ones preorder price is £153..... ouch.....

Someone’s spat the dummy.......

I predict a price adjustment from Bachmann for their mk2f’s.... they will have to drop their prices.....there is too much of a gap...

Very well put..... it just amazes me that some people think that Hattons can carry on as normal, challenge or directly compete, whilst unable to supply the main manufacturers range.... i’m Sure Hattons will have to acquiesce to Bachmanns terms, or else run the very real risk of taking a large financial hit, as the customers, that’s you and I, move to a different online retailer and place our orders. As my mother always used to tell me, ‘Don’t bite the hand that feeds you’.....

Lol....i’m Sorry this post should be removed.... It’s logical, realistic and entirely feasible.... It goes against all the principles of this frothfest.....

The Cowlairs Incline our of Glasgow Queen Street Station was pretty severe....In day’s gone by, they used a pulley system to help pull the trains up the incline!! The DBSO’s were (generally) always at the Glasgow end, as it was easier to drag the coaches up the incline rather than push them uphill....

The updates on the djmodels website re the class 92... i’d Maybe try emailing Dave through the website to get your name added to the distribution list... As to him not being active on the website, neither are Hornby, Oxford, SLW, Peco, or indeed Bachmann (they only reply to Andy York’s questions)... you may quote certain smaller manufacturers as models of communications, but I could probably tell you a couple of horror stories... however I chose not to air these on the forums, as at the end of the day they are small one or two man operations trying to make a living... if there end product is good, then I can forgive the poor communications....

I have a sneaky suspicion that it won’t be Bachmann releasing a new 37/47 tooling.... if I was a betting man, i’d Have a punt on Rapido doing one or the other...

I’d maybe wait another week or two till the new year.... i’ve Ordered stuff before that’s in stock, and it gets dispatched at the same time and arrives weeks apart in Australia.. If you didn’t pay for a courier and we’re relying on Royal Mail, then it’ll take longer... or if you haven’t specified air mail, it’s quite possible it’s been sent surface mail. Now if it’s small and been sent surface mail, then if there is space on the air freight side, then sometimes it’ll be put into the airmail system. There are so many mail/parcels in the system at this time of year and the slow down is unavoidable.....i’ve Got three parcels all ordered 1st December still to arrive from the Uk, but i’m Not concerned...

Could you imagine finding a s### seventy six times larger than normal!!

Wasn’t that long go, there were bowls of collective anguish as we approached the physiological price point of a £100 a loco.... Now it seems like a bargain! Lol.... Another pair of 27’s ordered.... that should finish my BRCW type 2’s!

Did you not get his Email to all the crowd funders about 6/7 weeks ago?

Well depends which side of the border your on? Lol....