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Ah the 59 bus certainly not an express service. Newhey to Manchester via just about everywhere in North Manchester (and slowly) I often wondered if anyone, other then the bus crew ever travelled the full length of this route.? Did the crew just do one round trip per shift.?

John, Which bus was the 23 from Stevie Square ? Do you mean the 90 the express rush-hour service to Rochdale (first stop Middleton Road Chadderton) run by Mnachester, Oldham and Rochdale. The only other Manchester - Rochdale service I remember was the 17. Cannon St to Rochdale via Cheetham Hill,Middleton and Castleton (Manchester and Rochdale Joint service)

Dave, Airfix kits at two bob from 'Woolies' not Kitmaster ?? :pleasantry:

The junctions is Oldham Road/Oldham Street/Great Ancoats Street. Not really changed that much.

Ben, The council in Oldham keeping very quiet about it. Whats the name of the app ? (or have I missed something) ?

My gripe (contentious I know) is why can we as motorists not have as much special treatment roadwise as cyclists. Locally we have one 3 metre/yard long cycle lane, cycle lanes narrowing busy trunk roads to single lanes for considerable distances, large green areas(for cyclists ?) at traffic lights, special traffic signals (to give them priority) special underpasses and off road cycle lanes built for them. All very laudable from a safety point of view but they are totally ignored by most adult cyclists who either ride on the pavement or amongst the traffic (where off road lanes are available) ride through red lights, and very rarely have lights or when out at night. I must add that during the week the number of cyclists seen is minimal but at weekends the lycra brigade come out and they seem to think that the off road cycle lanes and underpasses are only for children/amateurs. How much has all this special treatment cost us as (road)taxed, insured and licenced motorists as cyclists (as such) are not taxed,insured or licenced. And yes I used to cycle regularly in my younger days and taught Cycling Profiency and the Highway Code in my spare time.

John Sorry about that

Some more mixed Blue ones and some nice skirts and buffer variations. 37038,37039 Liverpool Street 080981 37071 Guide Bridge 060483 37111 Queen Street 050382 37141 Man Vic 200883 37209 Guide Bridge 080483 37249 Guide Bridge 310583 37274,37203 Teignmouth 220681 37264,37080 Man Vic 230783 37283,37197 Man Vic 300783

A rather average one (note the date) but not where it should have been Manchester Victoria 14th December 1985

Some 37's out and about 37419 Exeter 37412,37420 Exeter 37422 Queen Street 1986 37422 Peak Forest 1991 37422,37405 Heywood ELR 2007 37514,37518 York 37509,37507 York 37684,37682 Man Vic 37685,37680 Man Vic 37380,37680 Man Vic

A selection of 37 nose ends at Crewe Works 1985-6 37150 080386 during conversion to 37901 37249 020886 during conversion to 37903 37423 301185 37507 260486 37507 260486 37697 260486 37799 020886 37800 020886

Some shots of the Weed killer trains in the 1980's 25302 and train at Chester 12 July 1981 Fisons at Guide Bridge 1981 Eastern Region train York 1985 (taken on an 'all nighter' at Holgate Bridge)

Paul, I would say they were LMS or even LNWR buffers. Similar ones at Crewe 2007 They have gone since the removal of the South Bays between platforms 12 & 13

Dave, Found a pic of 47541 Manchester Piccadilly (undated)

Must have got them sometime between April and September 1986 Man Vic 4th April 1986 Man Vic 15 September 1986 HTH

Not just Hattons - also delivered to Arcadia in Shaw today

Simon, Major dufferences between builds and repairs are (amongst others) loco frames, smokebox saddles, inside/ outside bearing on radial truck, footplate valances,smokebox doors, cab side sheet cutout depth, chimney etc. Quite a few to be contend with. The only castings perhaps needed would be the radial truck axlebox and spring. That is if the boiler fittings from the London Road Models L&Y small boilered 0-8-0 can be used (difficult to tell from the drawins in the book below. Have you looked in 'Lancashire & Yorkshire Locomotives' by Barry Lane. An excellent history of L&Y designs. Some excellent photographs, drawings and as is usual with Barry all the variations of the High Flyers are well covered. HTH

Dave, Superb layout and pics. A bit of livery variety for your 1986 scene. Mixed set. 101321 15 Nov.1986

They always make me think of the original Fiat Multiplas.

Bob Are you amongst these photters at Guide Bridge at the changeover from diesel to electric (there must have been a fair few pic with me on them. 25057,25083 GB 21 04 81 76025 GB 21 04 81

Ian, They did'nt seem to move from London,East Anglia,Hull and the North East until DMU's really took a hold. 1955 IA Shed Book -no real changes 1959 IA Locoshed book 67743,67747,67748,67751,67756,67762,67781,67782,67795,67796,67798 were all at 9G Gorton NB I have no shed books between 1955 and 1959 so they may have moved to Gorton at some date before 1959. But I'm pretty sure they wouldnt have been green :D HTH

Ian, Plenty of Eric Treacy photos of GW through coaches at the front of trains coming out of Liverpool. Plenty of other Pics in Manchester (London Road/Piccadilly) and the previously mentioned through coaches Glasgow - West of England that were detached at Crewe.

Off at a slight tangent a tip for those looking for good ruling pens. Look around car boot sales, swap meets and flea markets where there is usually someone selling second hand tools, look out for old draughtsmens drawing sets (usually in battered leather bound cases). I picked up two complete large sets with a number of excellent (ready dressed by the previous owner)ruling pens included. The cost of the two was less than I paid for one Kern pen (which are the best)

Whilst not even attempting to match Larry's quality and standards of work I have used acrylic inks in both ruling pens (Kern) and Rotring tubular pens with good results over the years. For some reason I can't get enamels to give fine lines like the experts do.