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I've dug out the one from above in near finished state (could do with a few final touch ups and more weathering, couplings).

Looks like I added the cross shafts for the brake levers (etched levers, can't remember from who) but no others, replaced the door bangers, added the missing w-iron and axleboxes. Buffers look like ABS ones, I must have decided to go vintage rather than use Lanarkshire as usual.  Capping strips and loops on the uprights too. 

The internal planks came out a bit indistinct and the join in the floor can be a little hard to hide, so ultimately I think this will end up with a load added.  It's a type of wagon I don't really need, so that's a future, future job (along with the three other ones waiting to be dealt with!)

I had one come to me that someone had started to improve, i.e. replace most of the Ratio parts!  Bit of ABS brake gear cut in two and new W-irons/axleboxs (MJT).  When I finished it off I don't think I bothered too hard with the linkages.

Apologies for the blurry photo.

Have a look through the instruction sheet for the Morgan Design parts, available from the Scalefour Society, there is a chassis for the Open C, so there might be notes : link

27 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

If the worst comes to the worst it might get Moreton brakes, but was that prototypical?

Not with the body of the Ratio kit, the later O41 diagram that had Morton brakes was longer and had different strapping.

The next phase of this modelling disease is counting the holes in the brake lever guide....

It's not all bad. AIrfix have annouced the re-release of the Bond Bug with retooled clear parts, so I'm expecting celebration in the @Phil Parkerhousehold and a run on orange paint in 2023...

I've got the mortal remains of a K's Coal Tank in the stash missing several parts (the bottom of the boiler being one), with the same mystery frames ready for a rebuild at some point. I don't really need one, but it's there to be built in exactly same spirit as:

42 minutes ago, Barclay said:

good fun to do and has kept me out of trouble for the best part of 6 months!

2 hours ago, Beechnut said:

2ft gauge (?) system that one served the Midland Joinery works

Yes, reported as 2ft and all hand worked, before anyone asks!

5 minutes ago, Michael Crofts said:

Here?

Yes.

9 minutes ago, jwealleans said:

was there a diagram with a single large window?

No. I assume the original builder had baulked at the thought of being able to cut out the two or four smaller panes for the door from the thin overlay (as I would!) and was going to add them later, presumably alongside the door latch.

On 05/05/2022 at 15:11, Steamport Southport said:

Jamieson?

 

 

I think those wheel cut outs give me the parentage of this poorly lump of pannier that arrived in a job lot of wagon parts last year!

I've slowly acquired a pile of second hand brake vans that will hopefully yield enough parts to be reworked into a handful of finished items....one day.

One of them has had a neat scratch built improvement over the kit parts for the ends, with several thin layers laminated with a slot to hold the glazing.  Obviously unfinished, but it gives me an idea of how to try and go about the glazing in future.

3 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

I'm not convinced that that shadow is a vacuum cylinder

Brightness/contrast played with - I don't think there's a vac cylinder there either, especially when you'd expect it to be this side, looking at the brakes.

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

The location of the shunters cabin relative to the track was guesstimated using this photo from the WA Sutherland collection (Manchester Locomotive Society):

 

Ooh, a Butterley patent mineral, I've just started one of those...

6 hours ago, kevinlms said:

The Cask wagon at least was available a few years ago as a 'Limited Edition'.

The '1500' series (1501 coke wagon, 1502 Iron ore hopper and 1503 Iron Mink) were all supposed to be 'limited editions' of 1500, hence the numbering convention - whether that was true or not I don't know.  Same originally for the Open C and Cask wagon I believe.

5 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

Time for a new one I reckon.

Best hope is for the much nicer ex-ABS kit to return now that Rapido's done one RTR.

5 minutes ago, The Johnster said:

 

I agree; the solid floor and improvement to the ventilators disbars it on continuity grounds.

It's a entirely different kit, top to bottom.  No common items between the two.

Edit -  They're not even the same shape!

5 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

I agree the Iron Mink must be the oldest survivor in the range, now under the Parkside brand. Reviewed RM Dec. '61, so over 61 years old. Even a few of the Airfix wagons are newer!

Incorrect I'm afraid gents.  The Ratio Iron Mink has been replaced once and isn't the '1500' series original. 

Original issue (1503) in grey and replacement/current kit (5063) below. 

1 minute ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

I am not sure about simply buying any RTR model because it takes your fancy is really about creating a collection, but I don't know what you would call it.

A consumer?

1 hour ago, nigel newling said:

DC3 geometry uses a shallow V iron, resulting in the lower pushrod being almost horizontal and the upper being inclined at a steep angle.  CES920/4 has pushrods more suitable for Morton brakegear,

Thanks again to my slow rate of completion, I can demonstrate  for the audience. I did some bending on mine to flatten the lower pushrod. Not perfect, but better.  Standard RCH below. (Kirk van, Cambrian solebars and then Comet/MJT/LMS)

EDIT - The wheels line up better with the brakes when the van is not on the side and they are a chunky Dapol accomodation set anyway)

41 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

I've no personal experience of the BB DC1 etch but I'm told the swan-necked lever was the wrong length

Corrected in the V2.0 of the etch, I believe we were told in your thread Stephen

1 hour ago, 57xx said:

I'm now at the stage of buying replacement chassis for them as I know a lot more about the prototypes than I did when I was 14.

Do the weaknesses in the CC kits help a secondary spend market elsewhere amongst the cottage industries that we'd be much poorer without?

I like making things, so having bare bones to build from doesn't matter to me. There are always cries of 'death of the hobby' in most of the model building pastimes, so having kits available for people to have a go with is always better than no kits to me.  There will always be a new generation of 14 year olds who need something cheaper than RTR to cut their teeth on.

54 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

The whole question of Midland wagons for the conveyance of tramcars and tram engines is another complicated subject!

I can only chip in and say with the dates are well before the creation of the Midland owned Burton and Ashby Light Railways, which opened in 1906, so they are for everyone else's trams.

Ah, is that the worst of both worlds for the builder or the best of both for the basher?

13 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

We're comparing 12 against over 15,000...

11 minutes ago, drduncan said:

12 is such a nice number. 😇

Well, 6 as tooled by CC as the two lots of Q1 were slightly different, were they not?

16 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

the world really doesn't need any more provender wagon kits.

Any advance on four?  (all from various ebay job lots)

15 minutes ago, drduncan said:

reshaping g the cattle wagon end and fabricating a new roof rather more so. 

The Scalefour society shop did an etch with a jig to help reshape the ends, provided new strapping and a new top rail/roof support