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    Hornby LWB van - can the ugly duckling be transformed into a swan?

    in Modifying & Detailing RTR stock

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    3 hours ago, NZRedBaron said:

    Do you have a step-by-step for this?

     

    I'll do something when I get nearer finishing, I'm trying to leave space in the thread for others, rather than dominating the OP's thread with my posts.

     

    Going back to the raw material, these are on ebay, with the bodies made to look similar to the BR 1/221 Izal Palvans.  Would be worth a revisit of the idea with shortened chassis and widened body.

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    Hornby LWB van - can the ugly duckling be transformed into a swan?

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    On 26/07/2023 at 19:49, Steamport Southport said:

    Narrow Gauge Gunpowder Van?

     

    Opposite end of the spectrum!  My last picture was a tad misleading, as they are the bits left over.  As with a previous picture, the roof profile is pretty good for some L&Y prototypes, including the big vacuum braked bogie vans, and making one was a bit too tempting to resist. This will be one of the first 50 build c1902 with the single doors. Why? Well, I had some Ratio bogies from a job lot of bits and the big L&Y on the HMRS transfer sheet won't use themselves... 

     

    Only roof and ends used this time - Sorry!  You could reverse the original sides and join multiple bits together, but some of the plastics seem to drag/delaminate and not take a nice scribe. With something like this, the plank lines really do need to be as straight as possible or it will leap out.

     

     Placed together, need to order L&Y buffers, horizontal vac cylinder and axleboxes from Wizard and then think about how to do the turnbuckle underframe.

     

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    Midland Railway Company

    in Pre-Grouping - Modelling & Prototype

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    6 hours ago, Peter Kazmierczak said:

    One was certainly the one connected with the Ashby Canal and reached as far north as Ticknall. Part of its route being taken over by the Derby - Ashby line.

     

    The Ticknall Tramway, should anyone want to find out more.

     

    8 hours ago, jamie92208 said:

    And the only surviving tram car is now back in the UK following a period of exile in Detroit. Now at Statfold bur regauged. 

     

    Sadly, by the time No.14 got 'home', the last 'big' bit of the B&ALR, sheds at Swad had been demolished.   If it wasn't the wrong gauge now, it would be nice for it to have a day out on the surviving lines outside what was Ashby Station. 

     

    Having always lived close to the former route, it's very high up on my time-travel list to walk around the corner and catch a tram out to Swadlincote or beyond...

     

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    Hornby LWB van - can the ugly duckling be transformed into a swan?

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    Posted · Edited by 41516

    WIth rain druming on the windows and thunder and lightning in the sky, there was a terrible cry as another one arrived.  With a lot of other odds and ends to be chopped up, so don't expect anything soon, the inspiration isn't there yet.

     

    For anyone intending to play along at home, some extra thoughts.  One and a bit sides would give enough to create a standard pallet sized doorway (as modelled by a Bachmann VDA), with the ends trimmed down a touch. 

     

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    Some more though to create a Vanwide+ perhaps, or maybe go the other way and cut the chassis down to 12ft WB, akin to the air braked ODA pipe wagon conversions.

     

    On the other hand,checking against GWR Goods Wagons, the roof profile is excellent-to-reasonable for a range of GWR Iron Mink related wagons....

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    Wright writes.....

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    Related to the thread returning to detail vs cost and buying vs building, in his thread, @SteveyDee68 had posed the question of 'What can be done with the Hornby long wheelbase van?' which has plagued train sets since the 1970s and is generally seen as unredeemable junk.

     

    As a bit of a low-cost challenge, I thought I'd have a go at chopping one up and seeing what could be made out of one, ideally with nothing bought in extra. I did have to use a few kit spares  (brakes/brake levers, springs/axleboxes),  but then these were only necessary as I chose to cut down the original air-braked chassis rather than replacing it with something more suitable from the start.

     

    I ended up creating a plausible gunpowder van. I didn't bother with the hundreds of rivet/bolt heads!

     

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    Here is the result, painted to resemble internal user wagons at ROF Glascoed, as photographed by Paul Bartlett.

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    100% accurate to any particular prototype? No.  As good as current RTR? No.   'Layout wagon'? - I think it could sneek into a small layout without betraying where it came from quite happily. 

     

    Ultimately, it cost me nothing but time and was an enjoyable diversion from the norm, making something I really don't have a use for!

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    Hornby LWB van - can the ugly duckling be transformed into a swan?

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    Posted · Edited by 41516

    21 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

    Triggers broom?

     

    The only bits I didn't use were the sides (but could have done -  saving for next time) and what was snipped off the chassis!   Can't see what more I could have saved. Chassis, buffers, all Hornby still.  Only 'new material' was the sides, springs, axleboxes brakes/brake levers and then misc strip for details.

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    14 minutes ago, SteveyDee68 said:

    Best Upgrade of a UDV

     

    Merely the best....so far.

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    Hornby LWB van - can the ugly duckling be transformed into a swan?

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    ~Fin~

     

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    I might have gone a bit far beyond 'thought experiment'...

     

    As a semi-freelance van, the paint scheme came from some of the ROF vans at Glascoed photographed by Paul Bartlett: https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/rofgunpowder/h3E56D6E#hc1af5a0

     

    How wrong I was back on Page 2.

     

    On 29/05/2023 at 20:38, 41516 said:

    Can you make anything accurate/prototypical out of the body? Probably not.

     

    Brake levers spares from Cambrian.  Halfords rattlecan black with various shades of grey washed and dry-brushed over. You can barely tell I didn't bother with the bolts at more than about a foot, which is good!

     

    This has turned out rather nicely and was a bit of relief from 'serious' prototype modelling and good practice for weathering things that are black and clean-ish.

     

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    If I hadn't shown the 'in progress' pictures, would anyone believe it's a Kellogg's van?

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    Hornby LWB van - can the ugly duckling be transformed into a swan?

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    Posted · Edited by 41516

    Total rubbish these vans, can't do anything with them, fit only for the bin.....

     

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    For what started as athough experiment, this has gone on quite quickly.  Side/corner strapping, brakes and roof strips next, then some primer, then some finals odds and end.   Need a paint scheme too...

     

    Thoughts so far:

     

    1. As soon as I knew I was going in a gunpowder van direction, I should have selected a prototype and not just bodged on with a freelance van. Next time...

    2. Reusing the doors made life much harder

    3. I should have done something with the headstocks to stop me keep knocking off the end stantions.

    4. Reusing the Hornby chassis is also making more work for little gain, except for saying it can be done.

     

    Edit: @SteveyDee68 Do either of your vans have a bit of a wavey roof, dropping in the middle, or is it likely to just be damage from the PO on mine?

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    Ratio Open C.

    in Modelling Questions, Help and Tips

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    Posted these photos in a previous Open C thread.   Was a kit I picked up part built, with the brakes cut down from ABS parts. 

     

    As recieved: Bit blurry, sorry, but shows the bare basics

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    With etched levers and a few other bits.

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    I think I have 4 more bodies in various states. They are out there for not a lot of money.

     

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