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  1. Mainly rebodied BR 21-tonners, but the third and fourth ate on LNER-designed type chassi, with the high brake-levers
  2. My recollection is that the 'Shellstar'-liveried wagons had curtain sides, unlike the hinged doors on those examples seen in the 1970s.
  3. Emergency services training? Eurotunnel had a couple for that, as did the Fire Services' place at Moreton in the Marsh.
  4. I've often thought that the Morriston (LMS) branch would make a nice 'short-line. There were about half a dozen terminals of varying complexity between the bridge under the GWML and the A48 bridge at Morriston. At the time I worked at BSC Landore in summer 1974, the booklet for 'Conditional Workings' for the Swansea area ran to about 30 pages.
  5. They would, alomgside unfitted ones. Vans: the main traffic for vans was tinplate, normally conveyed in Shoc-vans. This was from the works at Velindre and Trostre to the the docks at Swansea, warehouses around Swansea docks and Metal Box factories nationwide. Mannesman was on the site of BSC Landore, I believe. Not sure when it closed, but can't recollect anything bearing the name by the 1970s . The old names lingered on; old hands would refer to Landore as 'Siemens', despite the plant having been confiscated at the outbreak of WW1 from the German firm that owned it. Out of interest, what period are you modelling?
  6. Into the 1970s, there were at least half-a-dozen; by the ime of the 1980s Miners' Strike, this had come down to one at Swansea Eastern Depot, which fed the sites of some of the others by road. The depots I remember from the earlier part of the period included Burry Port, Llanelli, Gorseinon, Felin Fran, Morriston.
  7. J1212: are those frameworks on the Carflats the stillages for carrying Rootes car bodies between Scotland and Coventry?
  8. From personal observation of wagons in the Swansea area (I was brought up a few hundred yards from the Llanelly and Mynydd Mawr, and spent 3 months doing a daily census of wagons at BSC Landore in 1974), I'd say that fitted minerals were confined to house coal flows. Shipping coal, and that for electricity generation, was carried mainly in 21t unfitted minerals, with a leaven of 16 tonners . One oddity I noted was a 16-tonner with 8-shoe brake gear, but no vacuum cylinder.
  9. From my memories of the period, wagons abandoned lineside were not uncommon. The train of Highfits looks like a seasonal rock salt working; these were to be seen into the late 1980s, running from Over and Wharton to storage depots nationwide.
  10. It couldn't be one of the coaches which were built for the Burry Port and Gwendreath Valley in GWR days, but only spent a short period there before passenger services ceased, could it?
  11. On the subject of ''chef de train'.. When Eurotunnel were first recruiting, they drew a lot of personnel from the hovercraft and ferries. One group, at least, arrived en-masse in their existing employer's crew bus... Another were catering staff, who the recruiting agency had decided were ideal for posts as 'chef de train'.
  12. A mixture of type, some with steel ends, some with secondary suspension. They didn't last long on the scrap (from McGuinness' at Lonport), as the bodywork didn't take too well to having scrap dropped into them.
  13. As late as 1982, there were 13t opens in use for road salt to yards throughout the country, and also in scrap traffic, and MoD traffic,
  14. Though it might not be obvious, the original locos received new traction packs a few years ago, rated at 7mW against the 5.5 mW of the originals. The stock is pretty intensively used.
  15. Two Tourist Shuttles (at xx:21 and 00:51) would be the usual service outside the holiday season., and has been so since 1995. A third service might be run at xx:39, should there be anticipated demand. It is worth moving departure times about; this can lead to discovering cheaper tickets.
  16. From the 1970s onwards, the 5-wagon sets were appearing as formations of different lengths, from pairs of FGAs to longer combinations. KFA wagons (built for Tiphook) started to appear in late 1989. in mixed formations with the original BR-designed wagons
  17. I suspect the Flask Facilities may have been built on the site of existing installations from the construction phase
  18. They are Carflats, converted from redundant passenger stock. Cartics were 4-unit, double-decked (at least as built), vehicles
  19. I think the wagons that carried the beams were largely former Armour Plate wagons. Between these were different types of flats, according to the needs of particular loads. These included Hymac and Rectanks, alongside the more mundane Lowmacs.
  20. The tailgate design made them prone to fust; that's what did for ours.
  21. Thaanks for that info on cones, and good luck with the job hunting.
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