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Also if you want 009 kits try Dundas Models https://dundasmodels.co.uk/webstore/index.php Colin

Hi Bluebell modeller welcome to the world of Narrow Gauge if you want to do either 4mm or 7mm it would be worth looking at either the 009 society or the 7mm Association for ideas, the 7mm Association produces a number of loco and rolling stock plan books. One publication that might interest you and that is the narrow gauge and Industrial railway modelling review website www.narrowgaugeandindustrial.co.uk Also as you don't say where you live may I suggest you contact the Greenwich and District NGRS at http://www.gdngrs.com/ as we have weekly meetings some in Croydon and others in Essex we can give you all sorts of advice and help. Two prototypes worth going to see one is the Leighton Buzzard Narrow Gauge Railway and also just as interesting is the Amberley Industrial museum in Sussex just google both locations and you should come up with useful info on both. Just hope this all helps. Colin

Hi Horsetan basically it is the County Donegal Steam Locos classes 4, 5 and 5a in 00n3, since Backwoods have stopped trading I can't get hold of the number of loco kits, that said Worsley Work will do all the etches for me, but they don't do any castings so I am looking out to see who produced chimneys domes valves etc and possible cylinder castings.

Hi all it has been some time since I looked for some boiler fitting for a narrow gauge loco, but the question is can anyone tell me who is still producing either brass or white metal castings for 4mm scale loco, I am a little out of touch with who is doing what so a list would be useful to help me identify what is about. Regards Colin Rainsbury

Hi Guys has anyone got any update to the owner of ABM Railcraft? I know the old website said that the company has ceased production due to illness, I was just wondering if there was anyone on here that is or has been in contact, I would like to know the current situation, they are great kits and I am in the process of starting to build a North Cornwall Railway Station building, but I would like to see what other kits he used to do for the North Cornwall line, beside the station building and the signal box. Colin

Hi Guys, I am sure we have discussed something like this before, but if we haven't lets open this up a bit. I don't want anyone saying he said she said and disagreeing over a point, This is after all a discussing into finding out what works for you on a model railway either some one else's or your own layout. I am sure there are layouts we all would like to see at an exhibition or have seen and though wow that's a great idea I will nick that for my own layout one day. I suppose this is a variation on the old question why do we model railways and what is it that we like about them, there is for sure a much bigger selection that there was say 50 years ago such O OO or N gauge, plus of course the non commercial scales such as S and TT as examples. This does not have to be limited to a standard gauge layout either, if you model in Broad gauge, narrow gauge or underground lines please let us all know why this is the case with you. Happy New year to you all and let play nicely Regards Colin

I think you are on the money there Grahame, one thing I would like to add is one of the reasons why we see so much of the Magazine Team producing the models for master classes is very simple, the amount of model layouts you need for any one magazine must be in the region of five or six, times that by 12 and you get a figure of 72 models per year. Having been on the edge of running a narrow gauge show every year, I can tell you it is not always easy to find layouts for just this one show. Up until now, we have always had at least one European built layout at the show and of course everyone want to see it, all at the same time. The point I am making I do wonder if enough people are active modeller? Sadly we don't know yet if we can continue to do this due to transport and hotel costs. The paying public wince if we put the price up at any time, I think for a non member of a number of narrow gauge groups it was £7.50 per person this year which when you compare that to general model railways show charging £10.00+ per adult is not bad value for what you get if you came to the show at Swanley in October. But coming back to the central theme of this thread are there enough of us building layouts that could fill the pages of this and any other model Railway Magazine for that matter. Larger layouts take more time before they can be presentable in a magazine, Then at the other end of the scale you have the likes of Mr Rice turning out a new layout almost every year, beside looking for the fixed model railway, may be there is also a need to show off club layouts as well. Finally as much as I like model railways, I don't think I could edit a magazine what with all the constraints on time and deadlines. Regards Colin Rainsbury

Have to admit I have just got the MRC article that was not written by Chris, I would have been fooled as well into thinking that was a complete layout, I am sure an up to date FR model would be great, in 009. Most models of the FR appeared to be based on Harbour station, yet there is more to the FR than just one station, That said I am expecting an explosion of Lynton and Barnstaple style layouts to hit the exhibition circuit in the next year or so once Heljan have sorted out the running problems of their Manning Wardel locos.

Ok first of all can i say i really liked the mag great would love to see more narrow gauge in fact I have been looking to find a copy of that MRC that Chris mentioned in his article,but still why not Chris re do the whole article and dioramas in 7mm scale for today's modellers? I am sure there are other bigger point to raise, but the article gave the impression that the 5.5mm models are no longer available, That is not correct, as you can, if you want to play around in that size at the 5.5mm gauge Association if you follow the link http://www.5andahalf.info/msmloco.php it will take you to the loco kits and the rest of the 5.5mm gauge world. Of course this diorama could also have be done in 009 with a Langley kit and a Worsley work's FR coach kit. As for the L&BR Heljan review I though that was quite fair to be honest, I am not sweeping under the carpet the problems Heljan have had with this model, but this is the first RTR British outlined 009 loco to come to the market and I hold my hands up and can only applaud Heljan for having a go. Bachmann's Baldwin also shows promise and I do have a couple on pre-order. I know Model Rail is a magazine but if it can be encouraged to include more narrow gauge/ Industrial based layouts then you would find a rise in subscribers, I do appreciate that up to a point you have to know your core readers and there tastes, so you don't want to upset that sector which buys the magazine month in, month out. However if you guys have any clout in the trade I would love to see you guys get behind the production of an 009 version of the L&BR 2-4-2 LYN model. in the same way Peco have with Heljan. There was not much In this issue that I could say I didn't like. On the whole you have a great magazine keep going, just one little issue I know the narrow gauge world of modelling is not very big but please check the manufactures, Meridian Models as such are no more, but most of there kits are now available from Narrow Planet https://narrowplanet.myshopify.com/collections/loco-kits. There is a lot more available for the narrow gauge market than most people think, a check on the web will find most narrow gauge manufactures on there somewhere. Besides that I look forward to 2018 and I can't wait to see what appears in Model rail next. Regards Colin

Hi Guys I am looking at who does what currently in 4mm Industrial locos does anyone know for sure what has happen to the 4mm scale Impetus Range of kits Colin

I am not sure what the thinking is on this group about the Worsley Works 7mm Kits, I haven't seen any, but I spoke to Allen about them and he said he would produce them if there was a need? so is there still a need or are Brass coach kits to much hassle? Regards Colin

Without upsetting the apple cart the above book is on sale at the Book Depository for just £28.18 via Amazon. Than is if anyone is still interested. Colin

Just come across this on the Web, Very sad indeed https://davidshepherd.org/news/david-shepherd-cbe-1931-2017 David Shepherd CBE 1931 – 2017It is with great sadness that we announce the death of wildlife artist and conservationist David Shepherd, FRSA, CBE, founder and president of the David Shepherd Wildlife Foundation (DSWF). He died peacefully overnight after a 10 week fight in hospital with Parkinsons Disease. For over 50 years David has dedicated his life to protecting some of the world’s most iconic and endangered animals. Using his talent as an artist to generate funds for their protection he inspired hundreds of others to follow and, in 1984, established his own wildlife foundation to give something back to the animals that had given him so much success as an artist. Voted by a BBC poll as one of the most effective and popular small wildlife charities in Britain, DSWF is a flexible non-bureaucratic NGO funding far reaching projects dedicated to the long-term conservation of critically endangered mammals in the wild, fighting wildlife crime through training and supporting the brave men and women on the front line, and engaging and benefiting rural people who share their environment. With a deep fondness for Africa’s elephants many of David’s most iconic paintings are of the world’s largest land mammal including ‘The Ivory is Theirs’ and ‘Wise Old Elephant’. ‘Tiger Fire’ was one of his first major fund-raising successes, raising £127,000 for Indira Gandhi’s Operation Tiger in 1973. In 2014 he painted an elephant onto one of his palettes for his Foundation’s 30th Anniversary black tie dinner raising £50,000 for conservation projects in Africa and Asia. Speaking at the time David said: “What more could an artist wish for but to repay my debt to the animals I painted.” The Ivory is Theirs by David Shepherd As well as his wildlife and landscape paintings, David is perhaps lesser known for his portraits, which include Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, HE Sheikh Zayed of Abu Dhabi and, the most significant to him, his vast portrayal of ‘Christ on the Battlefield’. David was also passionate about steam locomotives, in the past owning two 120 ton steam giants and establishing a registered steam railway charity. His life as an artist and conservationist featured in several TV programmes during the 70s, 80s & 90s including the BBC’s ‘Man Who Loves Giants’ (1972) and ‘This is Your Life’ (1990). His books include ‘David Shepherd, An Artist in Conservation’ (1992) and ‘Painting with David Shepherd’ (2004). His awards include an Honorary Degree in Fine Arts by the Pratt Institute in New York (1971), the Order of the Golden Ark by HRH The Prince of The Netherlands (1973), Member of Honour of WWF and OBE (1979), FRSA (1986), Order of Distinguished Service, Zambia (1988) and in June 2008 he was awarded a CBE for his services to conservation. In 2012 David was awarded the Conservation Award in the Wetnose Animal Aid Awards, followed by the True Englishman Award at the St George’s Day Club annual gathering in April that year. He was also invited to open Zambia’s first elephant orphanage nursery at a ceremony officiated by Dr Guy Scott Vice-President of Zambia. Just last year David was awarded the Animal Hero Lifetime Achievement Award, receiving two standing ovations as he collected his award at the Grosvenor House Hotel, London. In 2007 David helped establish the DSWF Wildlife Artist of the Year competition which runs annually in London attracting artists from around the world generating funds to help save endangered wildlife. His Foundation’s Global Canvas art competition has also been inspiring young artists and conservationists since 2004 and his Foundation are launching an Art Ambassadors programme this November at Christies. David felt motivated in his fight for wildlife and he was always determined to do more. “David’s passion for wildlife and the role of man in its demise infuriated and inspired him. He was dedicated, tenacious and outspoken, a champion of animals and the people who worked to protect them. He will be greatly missed,” said DSWF CEO, Karen Botha. He leaves a wife, four daughters, nine grandchildren and one great grandchild and an enduring legacy for wildlife conservation. His family are still very involved in the charity and his artistic talent lives on in his daughter, Mandy Shepherd and grand-daughter Emily Lamb who continue to paint to raise awareness and help DSWF fund conservation projects worldwide. He will be sadly missed by those he inspired and worked with. For those wishing to make a donation to commemorate David’s life and to help DSWF continue to protect the wildlife that David loved, please call the Foundation Tel: 01483 272323 or click here Thank you. To view more of David’s artwork funding conservation please click here A book of condolences will be left in the DSWF office reception in Shalford for those that would like to pay their respects. If you would like to send a message of condolences but are unable to make it to the office please send an email to mandy.gale@davidshepherd.org Share on Facebook Tweet Share on Google+

You are correct about wanting to see how it goes first of all, I have had to cut down on the number of groups I am a member of being between work at present, hopefully when that changes I will consider joining. As for getting along to Scalefourm no can do this year, as I am off to North Devon. Not so much a holiday but partly to do some much required research and to have a business meeting or two, followed by watching some trains and drinking some beer, life can be so hard at times.

Hi Mark To be honest with you, if this is your first 009 layout then I would stick with Peco track for now, I say that as Pete Wilson who owns Willesden Junction the WW1 layout did hand build all the track for that layout in the first place, but over time he has now replaced it with Peco mainline 009 for better running. There was nothing wrong with his homebuilt track, but I believe it just needed more attention before each running session. As the layout is now in a fixed location he does not have to move it and that also helps. You mentioned that it may well be used as an N gauge layout as well, if you wanted it to do that, then remember that off the shelf N gauge stock would not run through code 40 rail without replacing the wheel sets. I dont want to put you off but these are just observations I have made over the past few years. Good luck with the project. Below I have found a link on how to build code 40 rail points and track which I hope is useful. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=42746 Regards Colin

Hi Dave thats the one, the chassis has been started, but to be honest I need more practices with brass etchings and soldering to be able to do this kit any justice, are you talking yourself into building this kit for this project?

Now I know what to look for at my local charity shops ( and yes I do have afew of them) I will see what comes in if I can find any copies I will post it on here first of all, I do suggest that we all go to the local charity shops now and then you would be surprised what turns up. Colin

Ok I will go ahead with both of those and let me know if you have a pay pal account and how much it will cost for the postage and packing. PM with your details I think is the best way to go forward with this.

That looks good, yes I will want one, do you know how much it will be, I am not sure what other jigs they do which will help with building track is there list?

I Is that for 21mm gauge?

Hi Dave I have got a feeling it was you that the L&BT Trust where going to put me in contact with, you don't have to worry as I don’t think there is a rival, what happen is that I mentioned that I had a Lyn kit to a couple of the Trustees at Woody Bay a few years ago and Chelfham as a 7mm model came up in the conversation, I did say at the time that if the L&BR where to build a 0-14 gauge layout then I would be happy to let them have it for the project and they where going to put me in contact with who was leading the project, but it never happen. So I forgot all about the kit until I came across this thread. I though I had sent it to Woody Bay for the guy to pick up but it never got posted; I found it the other day at the back of the modelling cupboard gathering dust while I was looking for another kit for another project. I let Dave T know I had found it as I realised he was looking for one, hopefully we can have a chat at Expo-ng if it helps to take this project forward a bit more. I have, since then, found out that a couple of people I know also have both versions of the Manning Wardle kit in 7mm scale not built. At some stage I will ask if they want to sell them, I understand from some 0.14 gauge modellers that they are a pain in the backside (so what’s new, the new 009 Heljan models suffer the same problems by the looks of it) to build. I am not sure how Paul is getting on with the new 7mm version, but if I can obtain all the locos before that one gets released then so be it, as it may just help put this project back on track. I suspect that the idea of a 7mm model of the L&BR at Woody Bay built by the L&BRT was a good idea at the time, but it had not been thought through. Just as a side issue for some of you, the new L&BRT Lyn is almost finished at Keef’s and will be making its way to Devon in time for this years (2017) end of September Gala. If you want to have a ride behind her, I suggest you try and book your tickets at Woody Bay before you go to the Gala, as it is suspected demand will out strip supply over the weekend. http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/ Hope to see some of you there.

Hi Guys I need some help. I am planning to build an irish broad gauge layout in 21mm gauge 4mm scale. I have a roller gauge and a back to back gauge, but what I don't have is a the tri point curve gauge for 21mm. I have spoken to a number of people who have built P4 track and they all say that it is a must in getting the right radius and gauge widening on handbuilt curved track. So as no one appears to make one for 21mm guage, I wonder if anyone can tell me how do I go about making my own and how do you work out the angles and location of the rail location pins on the gauge itself to get it righ?

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To be honest I haven't brought MRJ for years manly to do with the lack of space for all the magazines, I have however brought a number of the white covered magazine books which Wild Swan have produced over the years. As my modelling tend to be more of a light railway / narrow guage mix I tend to buy Roy Links magazine the NG&IReview which covers these area's far better than anyone else. https://narrowgaugeandindustrial.co.uk/collections/magazines I admit this may not be up everyone's street but it is full of inspriation If MRJ was to start to include some of this off the beaten track modelling I think everyone would be winners. Colin

Yes there was a Lyn kit, I think I was the guy who brough Daves when he had it up for sale a few years ago, I don't have it at the moment since I let some one in the L&BR Trust who was rebuilding Chelfham in 014 to have it on loan to go with that layout, but I have lost contact with them, I will see what I can find out. If I do find it I will say now I won't sell it as I want it to remain available for a possible L&BR Trust 014 layout. The problem is I don't think it is built yet so I would need to come to some sort or arrangement over it, if that makes sense. Colin