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Please be aware if you use the following method to replace the HornbyTTS file and you subsequently update JMRI to a newer version, JMRI may overwrite the file with the default installation file which may not be as up-to-date. Using the method to import a decoder file via the file drop down menu to add the updated file JMRI will not overwrite the file when being updated to a newer version. In order to replace the default HornbyTTS.xml file installed with JMRI, follow the following process. Navigate to the drive and folder JMRI was installed to as default JMRI is installed in C:\Program Files (x86) 2. In the JMRI Folder Navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\xml\decoders 3. Delete the existing HornbyTTS file (may need admin permission) 4. Copy the new HornbyTTS file and paste it in C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\xml\decoders(will require admin permission) 5. Start decoder Pro. 6. In the loco roster go to the menu bar and click on the Actions drop down menu and select Recreate decoder index. It will seem as though nothing is happening and the drop down menu will stay visible. This will eventually disappear once the index has been updated. Restart decoder pro and the new locos will be available when adding a new loco. Note if you have any roster entries that don’t appear to work any more, Use the Actions drop down menu and select update decoder definitions. This will allow you to manually select a new decoder definition for any orphaned roster entries. Brian

Decoder file updated 1/10/18 to include Merchant Navy and King Class Locomotives. This file has now been renamed HornbyTTS.xml to allow it to replace the existing decoder file rather than adding as an additional file. More info on how to do this will come in a future post. Merchant Navy https://www.Hornby.com/us-en/servicesheets/index/download/id/1963/ King Class https://www.Hornby.com/wp/wp.../11/4-1510A-King-Class-TTS-Sound-Manual.pdf Still looking for TTS sound manuals for the following: Castle Class A1 Tornado Coronation Class Although I have the function lists for these, I am not willing to add them until I have a copy of the appropriate manual to ensure all the volume level entries are correctly identified. Brian

Updated file now posted This file includes the Hall Class Locomotive. I have also reinserted the original class 37 and 40 decoder definition plus the class 66 as any roster entries made with original decoder file would not be usable. Neither are selectable when adding a new Loco and are purely added for legacy reasons. The Hall class sound manual is here: https://www.Hornby.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/4-1501A-Class-4900-Hall-Sound-Manual1.pdf Brian

Peter It depends on the number of pins. The 21 pin is the R8245 Sapphire decoder. The 8 pin would be either the R8249 or it's predecessor R8215. The R8249 has a blue spot on the chip and has a purple lead connected to the decoder but not the plug. The 6 Pin is the X9719 (eg dcc fitted pendolino) The 4 pin is the X9659 Brian

Black 5 link now leads to correct manual. https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/media/4-1535_Black_5_Sound_Manual.pdf

Updated file to add Class 5MT Black 5. If anyone is able to test please try altering sound volumes in the programmer under the sound levels tab. Brian

Update The file has now been merged into the next test release files and should be apart of the next build of JMRI.

I had the chance to take a look at the 105 I modified. It's been a while since I did the works and I had forgotten exactly where the mods were made. All work was done on the chassis PCB nothing was touched on the lighting board. I had decided at the time with all the diodes used to ensure the interior lighting stayed on in either direction it wasn't worth trying to separate the destination board from the internal lighting. On the PCB the two tracks going to the LED Minus contacts need to be broken. a wire needs to be soldered to each contact and taken to pin 3 of the socket. I put a resistor in line as I wanted to dim the lights slightly. This should then allow thew directional lights on F0 and the interior/destination board on F1

New issue raised on Github and decoder file attached. Hopefully it will be included in a later build of JMRI I have been struggling to find the TTS manuals for the following Steam Locomotives: Castle class Coronation class Merchant Navy 5MT Black 5 Maunsell S15 class Peppercorn class A1 (Tornado) If anyone has a copy of any of the manuals and could scan it in and post here or Pm me I would be grateful.

Hello Peter Couldn't find anything in the lists I have, but I took a quick look on the net and on the Hornby forum there was a post referring to two TTS chips one being for the A1/A3 and the other for the A4 both were showing a value of 9. This was a post form about 12 months ago. Brian

Interesting that they are going to release a Refurbished Class 31. Hopefully they will also release non refurbished versions in the future.

If you have JMRI add a new loco. Don't bother reading the chip, just select one of the other TTS steam locos. In the box that opens give it a name and the correct address of the chip and save. Open the comprehensive programmer and click on the CV tab. Read the full sheet and see what CV values 7 , 8 and 159 have. The Merchant will be added in the next update.

I have now attached the latest file to the OP. The old file will remain for a few days. Updates include: Class 08 added Class 43 HST Added Additional option of reset volume values only added (CV 8 value 5) Click reset and select factory reset, in the next window click the dropdown box and select either reset all CV’s or Reset Sound Levels only. (see thumbnails below) Full list of locomotives now available Class 08 Class 20 Class 31 Class 37 Class 40 Class 43 HST Class 47 Class 60 Class 67 BR Standard Class 8 (Duke of Gloucester) Pacific Class A3 (Flying Scotsman) Fowler 2P BR 9F Fowler 4F Pacific Class A4 (Mallard & Gladwell) Gresley Class P2 (Cock O’ the North) Locomotives still to be added Castle class Coronation class Merchant Navy 5MT Black 5 Maunsell S15 class Peppercorn class A1 (Tornado)

I agree it would, but I didn't want to hijack the thread and was really asking for help and info. I have just posted in the sticky thread so Rob can add it to his opening post. I did tag the OP with TTS Decoders so anyone searching for TTS would be able to find it as was suggested by Rob.

Started a new post last week in DCC Help & Questions asking for help with information in order to update the decoder file in JMRI I have tagged the post with TTS Decoders. If you would like to add it to the list the topic is here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/136936-tts-decoders-help-required-to-update-tts-decoder-profile-in-jmri/ Brian

Unfortunately this was a printing mistake by Bachmann and the interior lights are linked to F0. I did a mod on one of my two 105's so that the interior light work on a separate function but is does involve butchering the tracks on the PCB's. It took a bit of courage to do this but the results were worth the effort. Only issue is the destination boards go off with the interior lights but I can live with this. may try to separate then in the future. Brian

Hi Peter Thanks for the PDF, I will try and get this added as soon as possible and post the updated file. Brian

Hi Rob Thanks for the files. I have had a busy couple of days. Windows decided one of my Hard drives needed repairing and proceeded to hide over 1TB worth of files so have been slowly trying to recover them. A slow process but luckily nothing new had been written to the drive so the data appears intact - I think! A few more Locomotives need to be added and the sound volume tab links to be updated for each loco so that the correct sound labels are displayed for each loco.

Hello Peter Thanks for the information Would you be able to give me a list of the sound Functions or attach a copy of the manual as Traction has. Hornby have a link to the sound manual on their website but unfortunately it is behind an admin block and cannot be downloaded. I can then update the file to include all the sound functions as well. Thanks Brian For ease of testing I have now attached the latest file to the bottom of the opening post. This will now be updated as more locomotive information is received. The P2 will be added later this evening and the updated file will be available probably tomorrow evening. Regards Brian

Thanks for the update glad it's working for you.

Hi SRman I'm also using the Power Cab and had similar issues at first. Both the class 31 and the class 37 reported CV 8 as 008. Giving the track a clean helped but I think the power cab throws a wobbly every so often. Do you have the sound manual for the Merchant as this will give you the values for CV's 7,8 and 159? I'll hold off adding the Merchant for now but will add it to the OP Interesting with regards the class 37 as my factory fitted class 37 came from the first batch of network rail 37's and CV 159 was 157. Was your '37' from a later batch? Brian

Hello Rob Yes you are correct CV 158 has been used to differentiate between the Fowler 2P and the 9F and have high numbers for the identification of the loco of 2703 and 655. Unfortunately there is no mention in the decoder file as to how these numbers were obtained. All the others so far appear to only use the three CV's originally requested. I have amended the OP to include CV 158 as a valve required Brian

CDF Thanks for the info. I have updated the OP and I have added the class 60 to the decoder file. The file has also been updated on the JMRI user Group. Give it a try on JMRI if you can. I have also uploaded it to a file server and can provide the link if you want it. Brian

I have now uploaded the first update to the JMRI Hornby TTS sound decoder profile. Updates include: Separating the class 37 and class 40 Adding the new CV values for the Stand alone chip for the class 37. Adding the Class 20 Amending the class 66 to class 67 Amending the sound function entries to reflect the differences between the different Diesel locos. I have tested the class 31, class 37 both stand alone and factory fitted version, class 40 and class 47 all work using JMRI version 4.13.2 and and on an older version 4.9.8 If any one want to test the decoder profile it can be downloaded from the JMRI group if you are a member or send me a PM and I can send you a link to the file. To upload the profile into JMRI carry out the following. Start decoder Pro. under file select import decoder file. select the TTS decoder xlm file and click open. wait until the import completed box appears and click OK close Decoder pro and restart. Brian

After recently purchasing and fitting a separate class 31 TTS Decoder, I connected up to JMRI decoder Pro to add it to my locomotive profiles. When decoder pro read the chip it could tell me it was a TTS Decoder but couldn't identify it any further, I also noticed the decoder profile hadn't been updated since before the current crop of TTS locos and separately available chips have been made available and as such the Class 31 was not showing as an option to select. As such I am looking to update the decoder profile so that it will successfully detect and identify the correct sound files using CV 7, CV 8 and CV 159. JMRI has already been updated to allow this to work and I have successfully got the following to be identified by loco type: LOCO/CHIP CV 7 CV 8 CV 159 Class 20 123 048 159 Successfully tested Class 31 128 048 161 Successfully tested Class 37 (factory fitted) 120 048 147 Successfully tested Class 37 (stand alone chip) 132 048 147 Successfully tested Class 40 (D232) 120 048 151 Successfully tested Class 47 (47401) 120 048 149 Successfully tested Class 47 (stand alone chip) 132 048 149 Successfully tested Class 60 132 048 163 Successfully tested All of these are now identified correctly and decoder pro now selects the correct Loco in the profile note: CV 158 has been added as at least two locos have the same value in CV 159 and a composite product id has been used. The following have been added but still need testing: Class 08 Class 43 HST (MTU and Valenta) Gresley Class P2 (Cock O’ the North) Class 5MT Black 5 4-6-0 NEW Hall Class 4-6-0 New 24/9/18 King Class 4-6-0 New 1/10/18 Merchant Navy 4-6-2 New 1/10/18 Peppercorn Class A1 'Tornado' New 10/10/18 Princess Coronation Class New 16/10/18 Castle Class New 16/10/18 S15 Class New 16/10/18 Lord Nelson Class New 16/10/18 Hornby Vent Van 8/12/18 J36 Class 0-6-0 31/3/19 Class 66 20/05/19 Class 50 24/5/19 The following locos have already been added by others, but I can't confirm they are correct and working. LOCO/CHIP CV 7 CV 8 CV 158 CV159 Composite value Class 67 120 048 153 Duke of Gloucester 048 131 Flying Scotsman 048 137 Fowler 2P 048 10 143 2703 9F 2-10-0 048 2 143 655 4F 0-6-0 048 145 A4 Mallard & Gadwall 048 135 P2 Class R3246TTS 1 048 0 133 Please note The original diesel locos all had CV 7 set at 120 but with the new breed of stand alone chips these now seem to change and for Decoder Pro to perform properly the CV 7 value range needs to include all available chips I have attempted to download as many of the TTS sound manuals as possible but Hornby seem to have removed most from their website at present so have not been very successful. If any one can help with any of the TTS Locomotives or the separately available chips I would be grateful. To be able to add any others such as the class 08, HST or Tornado I would require the following info: Locomotive type Chip Type i.e. TTS factory fitted loco or stand alone chip. CV 7 value CV 8 Value CV 158 Value. CV 159 Value A list of the sounds on each function (especially TTS Locomotives) would be appreciated as I am finding it difficult to source the information to update the sound tab in decoder pro. If anyone has a TTS fitted Loco or have bought and fitted one of the separate chips and could read the chip and provide the above info I would be grateful. The ultimate aim is to post the decoder profile on the JMRI user group for testing and hopefully get it added to the next version of JMRI. I will update this OP with any info received and notify when the decoder profile is posted on the JMRI user group so anyone with JMRI can test it with their TTS locos and hopefully post here if decoder pro successfully detects it correctly. Latest TTS Loco Decoder file Rmweb no longer seems to support XML files please down load the latest file here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ACbKTM44wgMhGH3XlJxgeufChkIky1x5/view?usp=sharing Any issues please send me a PM Latest TTS Vent Van Decoder File HornbyTTS_NonLoco.xml added 08/12/18 Thanks to the following for info and testing cravensdmufan SRman Peter Beckett Traction RAFHAAA96 Hornby Hobbies Brian Edited to clarify chip type. 27/8/18 edited to add CV 158 edited 24/9/18 to replace file with updated file including Hall Class edited 1/10/18 to replace with updated file including Merchant Navy and King Class