Graham456

Side tracking this thread a bit! At last weekends exeter swapmeet I picked up a selection of coopercraft underframes three of which are from the cattle wagon haveing the 11ft wheelbase, any thoughts of wagons that use 11ft wheelbase gwr underframs to use them under Cattle vans is not the answer I am looking for........

BUT surely those screw heads added a bit of releief to those gert slabs of brass

And ! During my discussion with him he said that he is currently haveing his moulding machine reconditioned! Perhaps it's not dead!!!!!!!!!!!!

If any picture screamed caption quiz hear it isEspecially with the threatening way the captin is holding his knife over those double bacon eggs sausages and hash browns I am going for... publish that pic and be dammed!

Anyone going today I hope you enjoy, their is no reason not to! It's the only show in the west where you can get bits and bobs, several projects I have can now continue thanks to branchlines,wizard, comet,dart castings, but the biggest bargain were to be found in the boot sell in the car park....Bachmann wagons for a pound! Or two if in a box, Bachmann jinty £20, Bachmann gwr pannier set £25, ready to plant buildings of which I bought highley station for three quid! I ended up with a boot full of goodies befour I got out the car park then there was the market on the doorstep of the show for food and drink, grand day out

I know you did Phil....that will be why I said that this question and it's answers sound familiar! Still off to railwells tomorrow amongst items required is to see if paul Dunn still is selling the dregs of the range to pick up some sides for cross kitting like last year

Hum! This is all sounding very familiar! To my responses enquiring about a Bachmann GWR 5 plank Why do they keep doing this to us, we get fine detailed models of locos and coaches but wagons get with any old paint job as if it dosen't matter

No,no,no, their is no something to be said in this advise!Their is a lot to be said in this very sound advise Cheep chuckaway tools have their uses in saving nice ones for important jobs

I know! Big But,being tender powered loco putting a white metal unpowered tender behind does raise a bit of a problem ( I have also done and got a loco powered mainline dean I can't be arsed to go through that again just now .and having accepted the rather larger compromise that my locos are electric powered not Steam powered I am going to put up with the wrong tender just now, I have to many other projects to compleat but thanks for the tips where to look for coal rails P S haveing only a Old I pad pictures are a hassle to post due to haveing no pic resizeing tool

Sorry for butting in ! But having half converted my mainline dean to a S2 boiler the stumbling block has been coal rails, does any know of etched coal rails suitable for the tender

Haveing ignored this topic until now because I have heard it all befor over 40 years about something called deep bronze green and what colour it is regarding code no's pan no's who's is the best match! Nearly every one ignores the variables! Ranging from paint manufactures,varnishes,application,mood of painter, then what it did for a liveing not to forget wheather it was kept in a shed or outside when not in use, And I am talking about series one Land Rover's but which bit dosent apply to locos as well P S the only one which is so wrong is Hornby GWR green P P S how can you apply paint codes to paint pre paint codes existing?

No longer than that! If it's summer they won't get dirty that quick as that's brown track dirt not smoke from the engine six months?

I think in a rather strange way he is suggesting a lot more dirt required ,but I think if you ordered light weathering that's what you have far better than none and as the Gray paint is unfaded and newish light weathering suits better unless the paint work looks worn as well

Haveing had a K's 1361 kit go off the end of the baseboard through the loft hatch exploding at it hit a stair half way down to the ground floor I know and can imagin your problem! How ever don't give up on her, glue has been invented and it sticks plastic quite nicely and easier than white metal I am sure you have built a few plastic kits in your life...prepair for your latest challenge! Even if you can't face it right now I am sure there will be more than one wet day over the winter where their will be the usual crud on the tv Yes I did rebuild said flying 1361 useing some new bits from detail suppliers Perhaps yours might not look like a new andrew Barclay but perhaps some mongrel built in the local workshop Just put the deceased aside for that Rainey day when you can face it

Very nice Can I recommend a pair of fat white metal crew in the doorways to both hide the motor and might help counter balance the front heaviness you mention, hence suggesting fat crew! One other help in balancing locos with K's chassis is lead between the frames

Well before I moved I went through my magazines take into out the interesting articals and how to reducing a great mound down to a manageable equivalent to two thick books only advice is be ruthless don't keep everything Second thing is what do you mean your a long way from a preserved railway to give them to? Unless Calne has moved from when I was born there or you only have a push bike isn't the Swindon and crickalade railway nearish you Or the Bentley model railway club in the same town to give them to?

Haveing had a week moment yesterday on bishop lydard station, when I just poped in to pick up a Hornby SECR wagon just after these things arrived, I ended up spending more than I thought I would! Now the crux of my posting is in with my No 88 came with a extra pack of what can only be described as bumpers of the old triang type no these things have fishtail mounts so go in the pockets but the coupling bar is full width but is shallow in depth like the old peco Anita coupling why in this day and age have we go such a gert lump of a coupling or is it some thing I have never heard of

Mike putting simply What he means is is it the? MCB = the little individual trips in the box that protect a circuit each Or RCD =the big master switch that switch it all off

No no no the fuse in a plug is slow acting compaired to a modern trip, a trip will go in milliseconds of a overload where as a fuse takes several seconds to melt and blow, this is why modern electrics use trips as they trip befour your dead, rather than a fuse which blows after you have been killed, not that any of which helps find the problem Do you have a multimeter? As you could track down a short with that if you know what your doing! Unhelpfuly with out haveing it in front of us we are on a guessing game that could go on forever

Possibly why their hanging around is the fact the place/chain of stores I was looking at them were charging £13.95 for what's turned out to be a jack of all trades fit anything model which is competing with oxfords NB jubilee paint in any colour wagon for £9.50, their equally detailed ?

So your one of the hoarders (not that I would ever do such a thing cough cough! Splutter Just not the right sort of hoard) The brake lever and v bracket on the Bachmann wagon doesn't just lack a bit of white on the handle the whole thing is just black plastic stuck on really slap dash, and it wasn't alone on the shelf with can't be assed assembly P S I have one ABS open very nice it is to, never see another for sale though

John I did say I know about the parkside kits in my original post. But I am in full agreement about the permanent death of coopercraft

Thanks but knowing all the other railways opens are as bad isn't much compensation! But then in someways maybe it is O! God the narrow gauge issue! In my railway the padarn railway won the gauge wars with their four foot one and a half gauge, so 16.5 is near right!.... thank god you can't see the track gauge from side on though! More important is the lack of proper smoke out of the chimney to ruin the impression to my mind. never mind that their powered by electricity rather than coal, and we can't clame the electricity is made by coal fired power stations anymore!,some of its made by steam still but glow in the dark steam These comments are ment for amusement not attacking you opinions all answers have been helpful

Hope. No one notices.........fat chance!,it boy took 28 minuets from my posting the question to have my dreams (illusion) shattered that we had a true GWR open How long do you think it would last on a layout?Still I have only got fifteen years left for some one to make a true GWR open of my three score years and ten allotment!, I might find a few 04' 05'in Old green or red packets in that time!

Thanks I lived in hope. But thought it might be the usual story Why has no one produced a rtr GWR open yet ? back to hunting for the coopercraft kits then To think years ago everyone moaned everything was GWR, ....well it might have been EXCEPT NO open wagons....only the most common type in a train, I have more vans both rtr and kits than is heathy as it is Back to the hunt at toy fairs for coopercraft rarities (I know about the opens in the ratio,parkside,range ta)