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Someone has to do the research though. The bit between the brilliant marketing plan and the factory.

Why not both?

Oh, very well played, sir!

We are awaiting the announcement of the announcement... IGMC

Well, since you asked, I, for one. The darker livery is definitely gorgeous. But, and I realise that this is a matter of personal taste, the lighter one is a disappointment. It's what 828 wore for the majority of its time on the CR (1904/1906-1923, as opposed to 1899-1904/1906), so there's that at least. Oh, I agree with that entirely! From my own perspective, I have no interest in preservation models, but more in as-built. Just in this case, I was expecting the darker blue. It makes sense for Rails to provide the version with greater time in use for those that really do model the CR, it's just not for me.

Andy, it’s somewhat disingenuous for anyone to imply that they can only respond to questions, as appears to be the argument being made here. There is nothing to stop anyone with better information stepping in to clarify or correct inaccurate statements made as fact. Quite the opposite, they would be welcome.

Nice work, @MoonMonkey! It's all very well and good having great figures, but the skill of the modeller is in the painting. Something that you have mastered already!

You might imagine that to be the case, but the only ones who know for sure are Bachmann. The savings may be internal, i.e. margin.

I did use question marks.

I clearly misunderstood 'as built' to mean 'as first in service'. Oh well, I've just saved myself 200 Great British drinking tokens. I doubt that there'll be a second run, but if there is one to include first in service, I'm in.

So, if I have this correct, the 'as built' version is after the 1915 repaint, while the preserved version is the same colour as originally in service. Therefore, given the engineering changes between 'as built' and later versions, there's no version that has the colour/build of 812 when first in service, any time prior to 1915?

So she's a different shade of blue in preservation compared to when first in service? Makes me wonder what the preservation is trying to replicate.

Will this one do?

My point was that if you use HTTPS, as per David's link, you get this: But if you use HTTP, you get this: I'm not using Kaspersky.

It's not a certificate-secured site, so you need to remove the 's' for it to work properly on some browsers (e.g. navigation buttons showing): http://www.247developments.co.uk/fictitious_names.html

Unlike the lady then.

When in business, some proficiency in diplomacy is a distinct advantage.

Part of the ‘joy’ of camping is trudging through the p***ing rain in the middle of the night for a leak. It wouldn’t be camping otherwise.

Really? Perhaps I've missed something, but it looks like both the rebuilds have the double chimney. It seemed to me that the steps fouling the platform was as much the result of curved platforms as anything. Shouldn't be a problem with straight platforms, should it?

The original, as built, looks really special pulling those teaks.

True. But I guess the expectation that errors and omissions would be corrected here is a differentiating factor. Not unique, as noted earlier, but not widespread either.

Thank you, Pete. This reassures me that I can keep the Terrier (and Bachy H1) 'as is', given that they are aged.

Speaking from a completely uneducated POV regarding colour theory, there is (IMO) a difference between brightness/lightness and hue. Maunsell olive green may have varied in terms of light/dark shade, but that was not what I was referring to when I commented on bluer green (vs. e.g. yellower).

I find @Tim Hall's explanation for the differences in colour compelling. From my perspective, the bigger issue is the difference in hue between the Hornby/Rails/Bachmann SR locomotives. If the Bachmann (H1) and Rails (Terrier) were lighter variants of my Hornby stable (T9, N15, V, S15, LN) then I could put it down to age. As it is, the Bachy is darker and the Rails is bluer. The lining isn't as complex as SECR, so a repaint's not impossible, but I'm tempted to just give them a bit of weathering and fubar.

Again, it appears that the Terrier has a bluer tone.