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We will need at least 1 spare.. to couple to the class 68..

Given how many steel wagons are currently produced, a steel works shunter makes sense. But widening that, we have a Barclay, Peckett for steamy’s, a YEC 0-6-0 and a Sentinel for post steam, so why shouldnt there be a market for a 21st century industrial shunter ?

Quite a large difference when I saw them side by side being built.. 66522 undergoing testing in Summer 2000, London,Ontario.

probably, but it’s not yet run, so demand won’t be as high until it has some mileage behind it... even then, what mileage that will be..and what type of work... theres already 31x high speed AC Electrics going spare. I’m still interested to see what plan is behind the investment spent on 89001, that made disposing of 86101/87002 more sense to do.

I think 1990’s. the current livery shouldn’t be that far from the truth though.

oh yes.. those guys are on the ball.. 16 sets available, I do like their quote at the bottom. We could be game on here.

your 20 years too late.. Clan Line was nearly £100 back in year 2000, it doesn’t have lights then, still doesn’t now. last year people paid over £120 for a 5 wheeled coach, with a distinctly un-european paint job, one of those wheels was just a moulded lump. Heljans models are quite reasonable.

Thabks for that, though its 1 step forwards... but 2 steps back... I just looked at Railtecs transfers for the HST... they are there, but .. £29.50 + p&p for the transfers ! Thats going some... though it is the whole train. I wonder if they’d consider just the replacement power car transfers, ratherthan a whole HST.

The original is in Dunkeld Cathedral, for 615 years. The great thing lost about nameplates is their history. Todays plates are mostly commercial, historically theres loads you can learn from them. Several years back I went on safari in South Africa, the guide mentioned there was dozens of species of deer, can anyone name them... I rattled off a dozen B1’s to the astonished audience..., won a prize, he then pointed to one and asked which species was that.. at which I confessed I didn't have a clue.

Not sure, the nameplates on 90002 my guess (and its just a guess) is maybe its wearing the original 87027 plate. This is my image zoomed in.

if done right, Intercity Swallow now should only be marginally different to before... Though back in the 1990’s it did appear with white walled wheels and quartered buffers for a while and looked stunning.

One to consider, 90002 now sports the name “Wolf of Badenoch” when I saw it yesterday.

Value is only created when something has Utility and Warranty. .. ie it looks like what you expect and works like you expect. How well it provides both determines value. A Lima 117 looks less like a 117 than Bachmanns. A Lima 117 certainly doesnt work as well as Bachmanns. So the lima one, to me has less value than the Bachmann one. Thats really the only fair comparison you can make, as thats the only two 117’s on the market. if you want to compare Realtracks 2 car 156 (£230) to Bachmanns 3 car 117 (£314). Then your comparing Apples and Pairs, but the price of fruit is still comparable. If you want to compare Rocket to 117, then I dont see the point, theyve never met in Reality, your not comparing multiple units, nor even relevant technology, merely comparing a plastic model to another... why not compare a Class 117 to a £20 CD player.. both plastic, from china with a 12v motor ? Or How about a class 117 to a £300 Mercedes wing mirror... again plastic with a 12v motor.. simplistically speaking... Theres no electrics in Rockets coaches, no lighting, no complex couplings... Rocket is in essence a n gauge model on oo gauge wheels with a bunch of wagons behind it..It doesnt even have that many separate detailed parts. Nice, Delicate, Highly accurate, but a DMU it is not. I value both at their pricing, I suspect though Hornby is laughing more than Bachmann at what price for what, especially on volumes sold. Value is only what you see, if you don't see the value, then its just not the right model for you, but it doesn't make it not worth it to others.

try a Heljan DPU out... its a brick on wheels. Massively over engineered, for something which in real life pulled next to nothing. Not sure if the factory spec had a 1:1 ratio for haulage on a 1:76 model. Theres a video out there of one pulling nearly 40 coaches.

Thanks for posting that. it is a bit of a groan sigh... Ive just had the recent GWR HSTs, and the numbers can be removed in seconds without trace... I wonder if the print quality is the same here, and if they could be lifted / replaced ?

I assume thats why your a customer, not an investor.

70013 doesnt have air braking so your safe on that. As above, the 15 guinea set, or R2565. Mods include protection plate under the coupling at the front, box on the tender, AWS box, anti-climb ladder prevention on tender, and the yellow warning flashes. I miss 70013... you always heard it long before you saw it, Ive some very strong performances with this loco, the Wandering 1500 tour was one of my best experiences, including standing starts in gas works tunnel, climb to Letchworth and its sprint towards Manningtree, but Ive oodles of other memories. 2008-2011/2013-2014. we got sick of the diet of 34067, 35028, 70000,70013, 4464 punctuated by 44932,45407, 45305, 34046... the bridge at the end of plat 2 at Victoria actually developed smoke scarring.... happy days now gone.

Any class 14’s too ? Perhaps 142’s as pway trolleys... high speed testing perhaps ? :-)

At 60 years its not as if they've not had there monies worth out of them. Though for RHTT, it would feel too me to be a more appropriate use than a pair of class 66s.

Where theres muck theres brass.. “The Salford Binliner” you always smelt it before you saw it. You just hope that when it passes, its a green signal.

patience, i’m still waiting for a class 45/1. I ordered it from Lima in 1994 for £19.99 and i’m still awaiting a class 45/1 now. I was a teenager then, my daughter soon will be, but no fears, ive educated her what too look for incase she needs to take on the baton. I recall my dad ordered a Lima V2 back in the 1970’s, thats still order pending too.

At the museum at highley, they has a fully restored door, but no coach of its type exists... so the basis of a rebuild is there...

i’ll raise that bet... though i’m not sure if the lilliputians are passengers or fuel...

That theres no window glazing doesn't mean that people hang like monkeys out of them. It can be done sensibly.. Europeans are also more able to manage themselves... i’m not even going to mention India. Thing is, it is the art of the possible these coaches are barred, preventing the monkey hanging we get with class 37 fans, but still are open air (covid risk reduced)... theres no reason some mk3’s (or even mk2’s) couldnt be similarly configured. I would add, there is a Uk precedence, which exposes passengers to open air, OHLE, mass crowds, reasonable speed and is unbarred by fencing.... And has not had any noticeable HSE event to bring over bearrance...in decades...

That has an East Midlands Parkway feel to it... just need some huge cooling towers unlit, foreboding in the background.