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21 hours ago, polybear said:

 

Plenty more fish in the sea.  So he knows most of the sellers on Ebay?  That's some trick.

He's a Bullsh*t merchant - forget him.

There is a bad buyers list for model railways out there, mostly US centric, but it exists.

you just copy / paste the list in to your blocked bidder list and done.

There are tons of “bad buyer” lists out there for different ebay categories.
 

if you end up on one, i’m not sure theres a way off it. How much they are adopted I don't know, but if they were to get popular and UK sellers got frustrated too many times I could for see them taking more notice.

Reading wiki and other sites, it suggests the loco had 4 Paxman 12rph engines in, which were very similar to 12tp used in marine vessels and WW2 transports.

A quick look around doesnt find many videos of sound (and non of the Fell itself).

I did find this video of a 12rph, does anyone know if it sounded anything like this ? (Or x4 of them).

This video sounds a bit like an oversized class 14.

This must have been a bit of a beast in sound ?

Theres not been many new reports of Mazak rot for a few years now, so it looks like the industry is ahead of that.

I’d imagine most models of older batches will have imploded by now also, so whilst theres risk of fringe cases, many models that look ok, probably are now OK, as they may be outside the fault zone, or repaired, or chassis swapped.

Certainly theres not as many mazak affected models on ebay as their used to be, and ironically their values have doubled as people feast on their bones.

I’d like Scotrail Saltaire livery myself.

but if the original Scotrail /Provincial was done, i’d run it as a 2-car hybrid with a 156 car being the other vehicle, as operated in their first winter of service.

On 09/04/2020 at 21:48, Markwj said:

I received the email and notice the 67 with 3 Wagons sold out very quickly again! 

Not sure why.

Its same price at Kernow since Christmas, and once you separate the wagons from the loco, the price isn't even that good.

Could the balance off ?

what is it like, if you remove the tender, and have it pull a load smokebox first ?

I got halloumi cheese today, tons of it...local Turkish deli has so much of it they were selling them in bags of 4, got my olives, oranges, strawberries too. Its close to the station, but as no one rides trains they've gone quiet.

Drove past sainsburys, car park half closed with a queue around 50-60 deep snaking around it.. 5pm today.

I think the problem is population density in the area, people dont want to venture to the larger out of town stores (Purley way in our case used to be the mega-draw for the populous for a 15mile radius at least). I think people are staying closer to the smaller stores in the various villages of Zones 3-6. However with So many people in the London suburbs, no longer commuting & eating lunch in London daily, plus having kids at home too its making the more local stores much busier than they used to be, and storage not being designed for the demand, they are running out very often.

Although ive not now been into London since end of Feb, (ive been a “home office type” since 1998). i’m guessing those supermarket “locals” around Bank, Liverpool st etc are probably over stocked but deserted.
 

whilst its slightly more expensive local grocers, butchers and then the reasonable local Asian,Polish and Middle Eastern shops seem to be the best equipped.

I spoke to one guy at the butchers, he said it was a 90 min queue to get into his local Tescos.

speaking to my mother near Bolton, her stores are wanting for nothing throughout this so far, everything is there on demand, “ever since the war” in her words (and she means WW2), but then in her village, an 8am-6pm working day, plus a 1 hour commute either side was never part of its culture either, unlike this area of London, so supermarket demand there is probably unchanged.

I do suspect hundreds of thousands of Londoners will be reevaluating the commute vs work from home following this, as will many of those locked up in Londons blocks of flats maybe looking for something more open and remote after this is over.

11 hours ago, sandwich station said:

Hatton's have a second hand Buchanan if anyone is interested.

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/532165/hornby_r2846_po08_clan_class_4_6_2_72000_clan_buchanan_in_br_green_with_early_emblem_pre_owned_d/stockdetail.aspx

thats optimistic.

I note 24 sold in the last 3 months on ebay, prices are right down.. £99-£180 mostly, the £300 bubble has gone.

1 hour ago, No Decorum said:

Very nice. A biomass train? Wow! Is that your pension fund?

That will be the BOC tanks.

Theres no point worrying, it wont change anything..

unless it's something you can do something about, in which case don't worry then either.. do something and it wont be a worry any longer.

my problem isnt worry, its thinking... ive been thinking of modelling something all morning.. i need the kick up the butt to go do it.

confucius say...

Quote

Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated.

end sermon.

2 hours ago, truffy said:

 

Sorry to have disturbed you! 

No need to be sorry, I was watching that 1907 video of LNWR locos over breakfast !

wow.

Lunch is back to reality and testing my Bachmann 66’s. :-)

An inspection saloon with fitted internal wifi camera, strong headlights would be a very nice tool, especially if speed and distance were recorded ;-)

19 minutes ago, truffy said:

He didn’t, and was. He was replying to Ronny about the colours. It’s only on the previous page. 

So why did he quote me then ?

And why did you ?

i was sleeping nicely and this thread woke me up.

:-)

All confused, I need a cup of tea now, for a moment I thought the models had arrived.

3 minutes ago, drjcontroller said:

 

I'm guessing you mean these?

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127282573@N03/38436709960/in/photolist-2hWQWyK-24gPPoC-21ywbKS-N2HSDE

 

 

And i’m deflated.

but they look nice.

9 hours ago, 43078shildoncountydurham said:

Please look at the 5 br blue steel named loco’s at Teesside from the 1980’s 

oh this is interesting, Are you referring to 37501 (In BS blue) and 502+ ?

Steel trains around Manchester weren't overly common, but I saw a few pairs of these heading through Manchester towards Warrington, very rare around our area. I think there was a specific project going on as they only came through for a short period, one summer..37501+502 made it once, and promptly the Lima pair became extinct in our areas model shops, though I missed it. Looking at my Platform 5 I saw 37504,5,6,10,11,17,18,19.. as I never went to their territory its safe to say they came to mine, c1988-90.

We used to regularly get Cardiff 37/9’s each week, I think once or twice weekly, as well as very ratty condition 37/0’s on steel from Scotland down the s&c to Blackburn and Bolton to Manchester again once, twice a week. 37037 Gartcosh being a regular and easy to remember.

6 minutes ago, truffy said:

 

 

 

 

I think you're missing the point, chaps. The "basic facts" that @BlueLightning was referring to was the colour of the LBSCR coaches, both in terms of application and description, not the tooling.

If he quoted my post of January, then he wasnt.

Ive not been in this thread for months (i had to check, and thought it was last year, I didnt realise this thread had gone quiet for 3 months, such a lot has happened in the world in such a short time.

Another week passed and supermarkets are still struggling in my neck of Surrey.

no milk, cheese, deli meats of any kind, very little alcohol and no chocolate, no oranges, strawberries...

But as side that they seem to be filled up on other goods supermarket was finally about 3/4 full.  Had my first celery in 2 weeks today. 
 

Butchers has come up good though.. steaks, pork, lamb etc.. its all there... its been bacon and sausage for a few weeks.

In short its getting better, still though I hear the local big supermarkets had 3 hour queues today, so i’m sticking to my philosophy of the smaller stores.. no queues there, though i’m missing Halloumi cheese, olives.. no source for them in a month.

I saw the BBC article about milk... I find it odd as the local stores in my area cant seem to get it and are still limiting to 1 bottle per customer visit, occasionally as today, running out... there must be two sides to this story..

On 08/04/2020 at 21:34, Colin_McLeod said:

This thread is becoming a substitute for Wimbledon.    

 

 

 

For the avoidance if doubt, this is a joke. 

I though going via Hounslow loop was a substitute for Wimbledon ?

18 hours ago, saxokid said:

That's very nice!!

didn't no this was coming out..

Kernow model railways have it discounted currently..

http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/64284/32-775NF-Bachmann-Class-37-0-Diesel-Locomotive-number-37-104

Ive been thinking 2020 was already going to be an Apex year.

• considerable price rises
• restrictions on discounting
• Increased duplication of tooling
• running out of unique prototypes
• Increase in new entrants With new toolings
• delayed pipeline due to Brexit starting to emerge

all in all, theres a ton of models scheduled for 2020 for OO gauge., Ive thought its too much, especially Hornbys plans, for people to bare.

Coronovirus has added..

• loss some of its customers
• sees a long term decline in the £ (its dropped 10%) - affects costs
• sees longer term pension (share price) decline -affects spend
• General inflation - affects disposable spend
• slow economic growth / long term lockdown affects spend
• increased taxation to cover the costs

it could become a lean time for retailers, manufacturers.

However it is not all bad, there are seeds in the bag that haven't been explored, which, with attrition of older modellers arguably constraining progress in both technology pull and investment tooling spend to their demographic groups, this leaves some markets unexplored.. there is oppourtunity in this...

significant technology enhancements are available to explore by younger entrepreneurs, which could fit a mix of lower cost & bespoke products..

• AR/VR
• Wifi
• deadrail
• 3D print technology on larger scale
• Professional print/paint capability in short batch runs
• 21st century designed kits
• modelling prototypes built after 1994 (theres very little rtr comparatively).

So theres room for green shoots too.

What may cause a problem is in the short term, the £ being down, the economy being down, but then a whole bunch of models arriving on the docks needing to be paid for. 

if manufacturers dont have deep pockets to pay for it and costs to store it for a while, things might get a bit squeaky.

it might be that Some comissioners get to put brakes on Chinese production, or get them to warehouse it for a while..

but their staff need paying and productions slots are scarce and time already lost this year.. no time for idle hands, when the brakes are released we could endup with a flood of new models, more than a recovering economy can handle.

Time will out, I was already thinking 2020 was too ambitious as it was, it might be 2020’s range becomes 2021 and 22’s too.

A bit late to the party on this,

The railroad hall lacks a bit of printing detail, subtle things like Tender ID / capacity plate, black lining, copper/ brass printing.

But overall the green lets them down, its too light. Ultimately I passed mine on in favour of the Bachmann Hall.. I think Hornbys shape is better, as is its performance, but the livery and the wheels (the thin tyres) let it down.

I kept 4953 in plain GWR green by Hornby, without the lining the green is less noticeable. If they get the green darker, like the recent Castle or the Brits/Bulleids etc i’d probably be back to it.

Still if you pick them up under £80 you've not much to complain about, the railroad ones were around £50 a few years ago.

9 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said:

 

As I recall, the Trix model was contemporaneous with the start of the Manchester-Crewe electrification. From those photos, looks as though these are 1:76 rather than the compromise scale used for other Trix UK products.

It is 1:76...

here is a Bachmann 85 and a Trix 81....

they are pretty much identical in dimensions.

My Trix 81 (bottom) is riding on a Bachmann 85 chassis, its about an hours work to make it fit, but the dimensions are within a 1mm or so.

38 minutes ago, Philou said:

I note above that there are a fair number of Trix locos in blue/white. I have a Trix one that is all blue with FYE and a single panto - it does seem an oddity and it is factory original finish. Question is: When was it originally marketed? I have no idea and I don't have the box any more, though I do have the box for the blue/white one.

 

Here it is at the back upper right:

 

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

Its factory finished, I have one too, making the bufferbeam black and adding large buffers (even Hornby class 20/47 buffers) improves its appearance hugely.

Cant help with production dates.

1 hour ago, Pandora said:

From memory the Trix/Lilliput 81 utilised the Trix Western diesel bogie unit.

HAttons used  to sell body in bare white Trix 81 shells (basic, no glazing) for 50p!

I recall plan was to use the Castle’s pod motor in the class 81, in the same way it was used in the Transpenine / class 150 & 155. 
 

On off between 93-96  I did occasional work experience at Dapol in Winsford, as research for a university thesis. Whilst there I got to assemble class 124’s/150/155, as well as going up stairs and repackaging ex-Mainline stock into Dapol boxes.. mostly mk2D’s & Unrebuilt Scots, Black jubilees etc, and helping sort the mess of Wrenn toolings and pallettes of part finished wrenn stuff as well as pressing dog bowls and Airfix kits. Handled oodles of 81 bodies during that time, wish I’d kept some !