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Ive been waiting for an excuse to join the Collectors Club again (last time was 2008? or was it 09 for 66550 'Ruby'!), seeing as I have spotted new West Coast Railways Mk1s on eBay, I shall be joining in the morning and ordering 37706 (Bargain when you note a previous MR Ltd 37248 now goes for £160-230 on eBay!)

Firstly I see nothing new has been said about the Class 59, but one sided moaning. Please can we stick to only posting if we have a factual statement to make on the upcoming Class 59s? Dapol recently said on Facebook an update shall be published shortly. I believe the EP samples are expected shortly - which shall show ALL tooling features not what shall actually be on the various releases. If you are dissatisfied, Dapol have offered to make arrangements to fix the DCC. This was announced on 4/12/15: http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=information/news&news_id=142#.V01qY2Y36C4

Hello Locomotion, I do not think your webpage contact works? I have sent several emails without reply? Sorry to be a fuss! I am looking very forward to the VTEC NRM HST, do you have the livery samples yet to show off? I understand Hornby have all of their HST samples, all due in June. I know at Ally Pally you confirmed if I had emailed, I was on the list for one. Shall there be advise soon by email that I am lucky?

There are a few images showing the LHCS as similar driving cab to the CAF Class 195/331. Seeing as we have not yet seen any CAD image of the CAF Sleeper coaches it is difficult to say. But the LHCS shall have the cab of the civity range of units. I could be wrong, but the sleeper coaches are of a different design, more of a hybrid of the Irish CAF coaches. The seating plan images released by CS last year suggested this to be true. We just need a model manufacturer to make the CAF Civity range, then we can have 195/331/LHCS+68s and perhaps the new Intercity Civity. CAF CS Sleeper Coach: CAF Civity (rear unit of the LHCS Driving coach) - this could of been edited to just have the same nose as the EMU Intercity Civity for TPE: SORRY, LATE NIGHT TYPO! (Beer festival and all...) I have edited to mean AAR or other similar multiple working system to work with the proposed Driving Coach. Should not be too much of a problem for 68026-032 for the Mk3 sets until 2018. Yes 68001-032 all have ETS. Apologies for the confusion.

All shall be confirmed in the DRS Press release (or I am misinformed denied), but, I understand 68026 upwards are for the TPE contract. The initial 7 (68026-032) currently on order and to be delivered in TPE livery shall be for the December 2016 timetable introduction of at least two TnT sets with Mk3 coaches from the ex-pretedolino and possibly a third formed with DRS mk3 stock. (Requires 7 68s with multiple working AAR or similar, which currently 016-025 do not have and why only 68008-015 work with Mk3s). As DRS/Beacon Rail were under EU regs allowed to order in total 41 x 68s, this means another 9 can be delivered. This would take the TPE fleet in 2018 to 16 TPE 68s with 68032-041 to cover 13 loco-hauled CAF stock with 16 locomotives. Whether these future 68s meet IIIb regs or not is to be seen.

I think the current situation can be explained with a little history. These wagons were announced under a different regime within Dapol. There must of been a degree of uncertainty in bringing these to market and thus the production order was conservative. As in if it was a slow seller, there would not be too many thousands to shift. If it sold quick, then run a second batch and fully recover R&D. We see the latter and I am sure a second batch shall be with us shortly. I see nothing wrong with listing them on eBay, if you bought all six, and now the less sensible out there do not understand that Dapol always do a second, third...etc production run if the wagon is successful and desires them now and is willing to pay a price with in a supply (0) and a demand (100s) situation on an auction site. That seems okay to me, I would if I had bought them, listed my six, doubled my money and so when batch two came later this year/early next I could by 12 wagons for the price of 6. Profiteering would be if the seller owned six actual HIA wagons, during a national emergency we needed limestone asap, but the said owner of the wagons decided to triple his leasing charges to use the wagons. That is profiteering. Selling something on eBay which has sold out at a price the open market place can take and is willing to pay when there shall be plentiful supply of them into the future is just business. I cannot think of many who would of invested in the HIAs to re-sell as who knew they would sell so fast and be so demanded?

Would that be on post #495 here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/88264-oo-gauge-class-71-electric-locomotive/page-20&do=findComment&comment=1860567

I know Joel too. Shall have to wait and see won't we. I know I am not altering my loyalty. Last time I ordered with eHattons it took over a week to get my next day delivery order and several phone calls to encourage dispatch! Back to 68s, I wonder do we as customers prefer to see all developments and accept in that process there shall be errors - which through a professional conversation could help identify them and improve the development process. Or do we prefer to see when 'it is done' and the sample we see, is what we get?

I think these arguments have gone around in circles countless times now. Perhaps this thread should be put to rest as it is not productive and clearly is strongly biased against Dapol. Perhaps when the second batch of 73s with additional liveries is announced as near to the shops. We can once again pick up from where we left of.

Ordered mine with Kernow, who honour pre-order price at the time of pre-ordering. Plus seeing as I am buying more than one 68, I get free postage over £150 spend. I cannot recommend enough to anyone who wants to secure one still at £118.95 to go and pre-order with Kernow now, as price has not increased today unlike these mysterious well known retailers, cough eHattons. With ordering all six with Kernow, you get 713 points which means £5 credit on your loyalty account

And back to LTM 66/7s limited editions, I had an email today to say they still do not have an exact delivery date in light of Kernow promoting their 66418 was on the ship. But confirmed those who ordered at Warley shall be first to receive their models. Hopefully by July as my Amex expires then!

Yes, it is the previously seen EP decorated sample seen in BRM, Alexandra Palace and on here. You can tell by correlating the same quirks. Still looks outstanding in its current form.

Locomotion announced in early March that 400 of the 500 NRM sets are now spoken for. Thus if I was you I would not hold off ordering. The coaches are a separate matter, whether you choose Hornby's or Oxford's. Only Hornby make the VTEC HST and the NRM limited edition is looking to be sold before it is released! I know Locomotion read these forum threads so I hope they can add the livery sample of 43238 soon

The main catalogue VTEC HST looks rather neat to me, livery looks correct. Hopefully livery samples of the NRM HST are not far behind? Good to see the 'hood' above the exhausts removed and a nice touch (finally) adding the Brush plates.

Amusing (the entertaining sort of amusing) world of model rail manufacturing. I came across a case of one manufacturer representatives advising retailers that one of their competition manufacturers were developing a re-tooled super detailed version of the original manufacturers model. When approaching the accused manufacturer there was a pointed no and much laughter. Who needs the celebration gossip in the paper when you can get as much entertainment from 'models'! Question though, is the 'New DMU' the same as the 'Next' model from Rapido. Or just total coincidence that both outfits are developing new multiple unit models at the same time and seem to have a good working relationship? I am just a little confused as there has been suggestions on threads without fact.

And nothing to do with the Class 700s initially being deemed by the unions as being un-safe and thus would not drive until the crash safety of the cab was proven? Then more significantly the interoperability between the train computer systems and track side equipment surrounding the door operation. I understand this specific issue around the doors has caused delay to the introduction of the Class 700s into service, now are reported to have been re-engineered / software corrected. This delay to the roll-out programme of the Class 700s, has lead to the DfT requesting the transfer of the Class 387/1s to GWR to be deferred, and thus GWR now advising that their 8 x 4 car Class 387/3s currently under construction and to be delivered 'Summer' 2016 to be treated as the first Class 387s into the GWR franchise. Having been to Bombardier, Derby, recently I can confirm that the photo of the 387 is indeed the GWR 387/3 on the production line. I would never say nationalisation is a good thing to support, but, I cannot see where the DfT have been incompetent or procrastination over the introduction of the GWR 387/1s? Seems firmly in Siemens inbox.

I think the LTM have been awfully clear that the models would be available in Summer 2016, this along with the Bachmann website confirming 66s production models are due in April/May 2016 has been clear for many months. The two Ltd 66s were announced in November, and could be ordered at Warley under the assurance you would receive them before the main release. A nice touch, seeing as you paid to attend the show. (Surely it is why you attend a show, to gain a perk?) The LTM website asked if you were interested in the model, to register to be notified when available to 'Pre-Order'. The LTM released the first part of the 512 each model to 'Pre-Order' and payment was taken, considering they are a charity which has just made a significant investment into two Ltd 66s you can understand why they might of wanted to recover some of the investment to enable their charity activity to continue un-affected by the investment in these models? They have been clear that they are delighted with the interest and popularity of the models and the remainder of the 512 each are being kept until they are in-stock, thus to allow customers who missed out on the 'Pre-Order' batch enough time to secure them. The website clearly explains if you have signed up for the notification you shall be informed when they are in-stock to order or you can purchase in the LTM stores. I am sure the LTM have been clear throughout these shall be much sort after Ltd models, and thus only fair to leave the main bulk of the 512 models each to purchase when in stock - which shall be in the coming weeks. I do recommend if anyone has concerns, email Michael Walton, who is super friendly and shall no doubt endevour to solve your concern. We often see moaning on forums about having to pre-order a model we have not seen in the fear it shall sell out before a model is in-stock, and then when in stock, forum users are disappointed with an error. Thus surely leaving the main bulk of these models until they are in stock to order shall surely relieves those (who seem to be significant in numbers) who have concerns pre-ordering before they see the complete product? Thus no worries, plenty of the models to purchase once in stock - that has been very clearly communicated by the LTM

That would make sense to interpret that from the post.

I would of order this in a flash yesterday.....but why oh why weather it! Why can we not leave weathering to those who want too, where they can do so by themselves or through the professional outlets. Please do tell us more? 66434 does tend to be DRS go to a unique PR livery loco....

Try googling the product codes. To order at all shops: 4D-005-000 Class 59 Foster Yeoman Alan J Day 59002 4D-005-001 Class 59 ARC Village Of Great Elm 59103 4D-005-002 Class 59 DB Schenker John F Yeoman 4D-005-003 Class 59 National Power Blue 59204 ....there is no RRP currently, thus perhaps why you cannot pre-order as say. If you mean 'the wagon' then this is not announced yet, and shall be at a later stage in the year.... See post #57

That is an utterly fantastic idea, sounds wonderfully simple way to renumber. I always fear renumbering in case damage is done to the model and then the varnish which makes you dizzy! There is an elegant design in the transfers naturally fitting over the TOPS panel, and simply being rubbed into place. Certainly hope these are in-demand, surely a potential after sales market with this clever design to renumber. Makes me want to increase my orders now. Thank you very much, we need more innovation like this in the industry!

Well yes... (Sorry only know the Kw output not the BHP due to bi-modes being basically electric units) The 800/1 has its MTU power pack (12V 1600 R80L) down-rated to 560Kw = 2800 Whereas the 802/1 is as the PR says 'up-rated' (small print - to the original rating of the power pack!) at 700Kw = 3500 This does allow for the 'IEP' (800) to access 'contingency' power by 'up-rating' the 560Kw to 700Kw if one of the five power packs fails, leaving 4 packs providing the loss of 560Kw. Very smart design! (Does mean the 802/1 under a power pack failure, does not have any contingency power - but can achieve a higher speed under diesel mode over the 801). Same logic of power applies to the 5 coach 800s and 802s (And not the 801/0s which shall be delivered bi-mode), just minus two power packs. Does mean under a power pack failure on the 5 coach 'IEP' 800s there shall be a 50% loss in power as the up-rated contingency represents 280Kw rather than 560Kw on the 9 coach. Means the 9 coaches on a IEP 800 with power pack failure shall just continue on, though I am sure the 5 coaches under such circumstance shall too. ***** I do not know about anyone else here, but I have been lobbying Hitachi for the last 3 years to select the best model manufacturer, who shall deliver detail over compromised 'toy'. Read into that as wished, the Japanese are just about as keen modellers as us!

It could, but a 9-coach class 800/1 (and 802/1) has 5 MTU engines and two intermediate trailers (between the driving coaches). Sorry if this photo has been shown on here, it shows the two intermediate trailers with Hitachi internal framed bogies (Also, again sorry if it has been said - the Azuma livery was a 'launch' livery only - in the style of a red curtain coming off the grey train. The VTEC 800/801s / VT Azumas shall be in a different livery and not grey !!!)

Sorry, I did start looking through the n-gauge thread but too many pages, easier to ask! This sounds very interesting about transfers for more numbers, I am interested in a few of the triple packs and more than one Freightliner. But if different numbers. How would the transfers work, as in: - How would the factory tampo running numbers be removed? I am a fan of modelstrip paste over the trusty old wooden stick. - Would running numbers be included in the packs, or available additionally? - Would advice on varnish finnish be given as I do like to make my decals 'sink' into the model and not appear glossy Many thanks! Shall certainly order before June for the early bird, but just need to confirm finances to purchase.

Thank you. I certainly look forward to hearing of the early bird order price as I have been checking your website daily ready to order. I see myself ordering what I want, 2 x of the 3 Greenenergy for a GBRf run and 1 x of the 3 Grey and 1 Red for Colas. Though currently a Class 60 run, I see the 56s do occasionally do this run - which is convenient - I have a Hornby 56 in Colas! Question. I am planning on modelling the Freightliner as per your PDF guide to Ipswich which means only 1 wagon....are the Freightliners used more frequently? Next wagon, say a log wagon for Colas in OO?