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I need to check the details, but seem to recall the coke ovens at Glasshoughton having a six wheel fire less loco with the cab mounted on top of the steam tank. It travelled just 100 metres or so propelling a bogie hopper wagon from the ovens to the quenching tower. The steam was also used to power the wagon doors. From Ron Rockett’s book : the pair of fireless locomotives were built by Robert Stevenson Hawthorn in 1958. The cabs were designed and built on site. In the final years of operation the conventional steam locomotive Hawthorn Lesley “ Coal Products #3” was fitted with the steam pipes to operate the wagon. That must have been a fun shift.

As a child I recall my late father telling me that oleum was a truly nasty product. Having just Wikipedia checked it he wasn’t probably wrong. i have something very similar to the tiny tank wagon. Scratch built tank on an ancient Slaters midland under frame.

I seem to recall that the miners concessionary allowance was a ton per month. Few managed to burn this full amount leading to a thriving black market in cheap coal. But that is another story.

Of related interest. Try the next thread on prototype discussions. Quaint goods yards 1979-90s. Several examples of coal still being bagged directly from 16 tonnes onto flat bed lorries.

I don’t usually admit that the Americans have something right but if only they had set O gauge at 28mm. Quarter inch /6mm to the foot ,1/48..............

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The 12 cell coal drops at Selby had the end pair covered for lime. During the war or shortly after, this structure was removed presumably because lime traffic had ceased. This may have been due to changing farming practices or the convenience of direct delivery by road from local quarries to the farm.

Only ten? In 1970 Castleford were drawn away to Barrow in the RL challenge cup. BR put on two special trains the first of which consisted of 26 DMU cars. This required the loading to be done in two stages as there were no through corridors between the three and five car sets.

From automotive suppliers cellulose body stopper. Available in tins or tubes.

Were the Manchester Oil Refinery wagons " internal use" to the MSC system, or did they travel out onto the network?

Sadly not the breakthrough. I am on condensed view. I wonder if it is to do with the amount of photographic content? The prototype discussion page is slow to load but does eventually.

Is it just me? Wednesday saw a new homepage but half of the regular features are missing. The old navigation menu has just returned but wheeltappers refused to load. Noone else is grumbling. Any ideas welcome.

Selby is in the process of having a new footbridge with lift installed. The existing arrangement is for disabled people to pre-book assistance across the barrow crossing. Back in the day there were plenty of staff available to assist.

Good to be able to access this part of the forum even if I have to use a devious route

Use Matt. Don't paint from the tin, use a '" palette". Put a spot of Matt white and Matt black on the edge of the palette and occasionally mix in a tiny amount especially on skin tones.

Just worth mentioning for those new to construction. In the UK buying a 4x2 sheet is an expensive approach unless you only need a single sheet. The DIY stores all add 100% to the price so that an 8x4 priced at say £40 will be cut into four 4x2 retailing at £20 each. Worse still they are almost always cut across the sheet so that the grain is running the wrong way. B&Q will cut up the big sheet the correct way gree of charge. For the record, Houghton Street had the back scene as an integral part of the board which allowed the two 5' boards to slide together face to face for transport .

Kouger? I need to check with Peter Filbys book.

In Reykjavik they use timber scaffolding. I also have childhood memories of buildings propped up with massive baulks of timber, in our case the result of mining subsidence.

Florist wire has some real modelling uses but this is probably not one of them. It bends easily and retains this shape. Scaffolding on the other hand is made of very straight tubes. If bent they are condemned.

0.8mm (7mm handrail wire) should scale out about right. Very thin brass tube for the joints and make a proper study of how the prototype is actually assembled.

Red was the official colour of Area 8 and was applied to all locomotives leaving the Allerton Bywater area workshop, sometimes plain but usually lined out and often with a black tank top. For reasons unexplained the Fryston / Wheldale locomotives were green some almost apple green others closer to Swindon poverty spec. This was probably sheer bloody mindedness on the part of individual managers who, given an instruction to paint them green would have immediately ordered gallons of red paint. Oddly Glasshoughton. #4 was green as was Ackton Hall #3 but in this case it was the standard Peckett colour. The most photographed of all, S134 aka Wheldale owed it's green livery to a BBC contract but that is another story.

Problem is that this is nothing like the marroon used in area 8, so a standard NCB maroon probably doesn't exist. If this is the colour you want take the photo into Halfords or a similar shop and compare it to the cans on the rack. Alternatively take it to a . automotive paint supplier and get a rattlecan custom mixed. This is how I obtained something close to the Area 8 red.

Note the odd wheels on dirt can #26. Proof for those people who questioned my model.