Rusty.J

Personally I've seen RailRoad models that are better.

How about these for suggestions? Class 86, Class 87, Class 89, Class 92, Class 142 Pacer, Mk3 coaches

Hi, Well I dislike it because many times it seems a tab bit too bright. And I'll never ever try modifying any expensive locos. Sometimes in that small OO gauge model a little LED can still be far too bright. I love seeing modelers who fit their own cab lighting as they use their own resistors to get a more prototypical glow. However my views are based mostly when it's dark. So maybe that plays a factor. In reality I'm used to seeing locos at a station or depot with other forms of lighting in the surrounding environment. Every little thing does still make a difference. And as for Olivia's, I'm probably never buying anything from them.

Well I dislike cab lighting too

So I am guessing you dislike the cab lighting features on Bachmann and DJM locos?? And personally I have no idea how the Class 60 sets a benchmark. Maybe for it's time. But it has the same features and details as all other modern day examples. Maybe the engine room details are an extra but other than that the level of detail it has matches others. I own a Class 60 as well and the detail is at par with all modern day models. Dapol's Class 73, DJM and Hornby GWR King, Dapol's Western, DJM's 14XX class etc. all display a very very high level of detail. And please do read my post properly. I never said I felt that the working pantograph is a gimmick, I said some others feel that way.

I do hope you've actually seen the specs offered by Hornby for the Class 71 and also seen the EP samples? Secondly I also hope you realize that I quoted the Class 71 because it's an electric. Out of the general features offered by Hornby for all their super-detailed locos the Class 71 further adds cab lighting and a working pantograph. And as the latter may be perceived as some as just a gimmick it's still wonderful that they added that feature. The Class 60 doesn't feature cab lighting. And when it comes to the level of detail they both are the same standard. So I really don't understand your point of any possible future models being to the standard of the Class 60.

With regards to a Class 91. I want a newly tooled one. Would be happy to see a better Class 86 and Class 87 too. Love Bachmann's Class 85 (only the windscreen wipers are too chunky). Would love to see Hornby do a Class 86, 87 or 91 to the standard of their upcoming Class 71.

jonathan452 is referring to the level of detail and not what Hornby is trying to palm it off as.

No point duplicating a topic. And I doubt one topic can come under multiple sup-forums

Well that does make sense. I just mentioned that because I forgot to use the search bar to locate the topic. I just checked the Heljan sub-forum. It never struck me to check the OO9 forum. My mistake. Infact I opened a new thread in the Heljan section due to my absent mindedness. And that's when I discovered the thread. Well it certainly wasn't me who reported your thread. I found your previous explanation quite valid.

http://www.mremag.com/index.php/news/406-hlejanlb Would have been better if this topic was placed under Heljan with OO9 tags.

Hi Dave, What time will you be posting the update pertaining to all your models today?? Thanks in advance.

http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/a-ex-lswr-coaches-update-and-the-b17-and-class-91-arrive/

Kernow have also got them in stock.... http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/42149/R3264-Hornby-Class-50-Diesel-Locmotive-number-50-046-Ajax

Latest limited editions from Olivia's:- - EWS 73128 http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-128-in-ews-livery-olivias-exclusive/ - Network Rail 73212 http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-212-in-network-rail-livery-olivias-exclusive/ - Fragonset "Spitfire" 73107 http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-107-spitfire-in-fragonset-livery-olivias-exclusive/ EDIT: Sorry, never saw James' post above.

New wagon loads? By the way, thanks for the heads up about the meeting etc. Looking forward to the announcements. Will a brand new N gauge Class 87, 90, 92 or Class 117 be classified as wagons?

CAD images seen here. http://irishrailwaymodels.com/index.php/2015/10/13/irm-announce-first-rtr-irish-wagon/

Is that actually a W4? Looks different to the images on the Hornby website.

I am certainly looking forward to getting one for Christmas... I think my dad will be more fond of it after living in Darj for over 5 years in the early 90's.

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/78615-djm-wish-list-thread/ There has been a wishlist thread for DJM from Nov 13th 2013....

Looks fab!

Looks stunning. I am waiting to see a SR version.

Does the Class 74 actually utilize the Class 71 body shell?