K's kits were ok if you were prepared to put some work in on detailing I.e.chucking out the plastic handrail knobs and the bl##dy awful hm2p motor wheels were ok sort of.I have only got 2 k's models left now the bulldog is using k's tender, bogie, and boiler fittings the rest is scratch built. The syphon is a cut down k's 6 wheel kit