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You know me too well.

There's a lot of sensible stuff until Billy Nobrains turns up and then there's little to be said for it. Just find groups Billy doesn't belong to and it's fine.

Greetings to you too! You appear to have good sensible tastes! Just don't expect all models to run as well as the Victory does.

It was a touch of humour. I'm sure Jim could picture my exasperation this morning. Still, it could be worse; it could have been some of the utterly ridiculous rubbish I've seen on Facebook.

I know of as many good'uns as bad and still going strong so don't feel too lonely.

That's really impressive Robert. Having looked over the complexity of the real things I'm full of admiration.

It's because it's not produced by Kader so it's not actually a Bachmann product.

You have to argue the toss with the receptionist to see your GP (General Procurement approver) to issue a prescription from the National Modelling Service approved list containing bin ends and budget models and trot off to the pharmacist to find they're out of stock. Or go private.

You may think you are; I couldn't possibly comment. Second topic ban.

As is naivety. First topic ban implanted.

Still banging that drum? That's about how duplication is handled and how far elbows are stuck out.

And your solution is?

With further clarification from Ben Jones on Facebook, "Heljan has no involvement in these models. It is a straight duplication." Next person to not bother reading what is clearly written will get a ban from the topic.

I don't know why I bothered clarifying as early as possible that they are different models and even provide evidence.

Heljan EFE Should look OK with each other.

I went and looked at comparative images and spotted some small differences.

They are different models of the same stock.

BACHMANN REVEALS NEWTON CHAMBERS CAR CARRIERS AT DEMU SHOWCASE Following the launch of the all-new Bachmann Branchline Class 37 at last year’s DEMU Showcase – the event staged by Diesel Electric Modellers United (DEMU) which is a highlight of the exhibition calendar for many Diesel & Electric enthusiasts – Bachmann Europe again chose DEMU Showcase for another product announcement. As part of its EFE Rail range, Bachmann has today announced all-new OO scale models of the Newton Chambers Car Carriers. These double-deck bogie vehicles were built by Newton, Chambers & Co. in 1961 and were delivered to British Railways’ Eastern Region. A total of 14 vehicles were built to carry six cars each: two in a well between the bogies and four on the upper deck up. Although usually employed on Anglo Scottish trains, these vehicles were built and registered to UIC standards allowing them to work on train ferry services to the continent. Built with through steam heat pipes and vacuum brakes, by the mid-1970s several had been fitted with through ETH and all had been so fitted by the early-1980s, when Mk3 Sleeping Coaches were introduced. Outshopped in BR Lined Maroon livery with ‘Eastern Region Car Transporter’ lettering, the introduction of ‘Motorail’ services in 1966 saw them repainted into BR’s corporate Blue & Grey scheme with ‘Motorail’ branding applied. Originally coded TCV for ‘Two-Tier Motor Car Van’, under TOPS they later became NVV when fitted with vacuum brakes and NVX once dual-fitted with vacuum and air brakes. Withdrawals commenced during the 1980s and all had gone by the end of the decade. The EFE Rail model captures the distinct character of these vehicles, with finely-moulded panel lines throughout the model and accurate end detailing. The bogies, with their unique 6ft 9in. wheelbase, are something to behold; capturing the relief of the axleboxes and spring leaf suspension, with full brake gear push/pull rods and safety loops fitted separately between the frames. Pinpoint metal wheels ensure smooth running whilst the tension lock coupling is mounted via NEM socket which is mounted on a close-coupling mechanism built into the vehicle’s floor. Two buffer beam arrangements are catered for in these initial releases, depicting the vehicles as built with vacuum brakes and through-piped for steam heating, or in later operation when dual braked and fitted for through-ETH. Available as individual models, allowing authentic train formations to be created as desired, these EFE Rail models are now in production with delivery expected towards the end of 2023. Eight models are being produced and these can be ordered from Bachmann stockists now, with an RRP of £59.95 each. Item No. Description RRP Running Number E86003 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Maroon £59.95 E96293E E86004 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Maroon £59.95 E96294E E86005 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Maroon [W] £59.95 E96296E E86006 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Maroon [W] £59.95 E96297E E86007 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Blue & Grey £59.95 E96291E E86008 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Blue & Grey £59.95 E96294E E86009 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Blue & Grey [W] £59.95 E96298E E86010 Newton Chambers Car Carrier BR Blue & Grey [W] £59.95 E96299E

Oof! You don't want to drop that on your toes!

The Farish Lobsters (only just twigged it's an anagram of 'Bolster' and that they're bright red) should be around soon as I'm expecting the review sample.

Not being in Yorkshire you don't need the "Ow much!" sound file.

YouGov don't necessarily send out to all, it depends what size sample is being paid for. They select the group they want responses from, for instance a very different response may be given from a younger range than an older one. Plus, was it a proportionate gender sample? Without knowing the selected group it's fairly meaningless.

Check the National Library of Scotland's map archives on their website for the OS maps for the era you are interested in. Large scale maps can give quite a bit of info.

7PDF file attached showing the original topic with images thanks to @Chris_z RMWeb BM01 (Merged) copy.pdf

The only time I've observed similar, and very rarely, is if there's a cache issue either on the server or on a local device. I'll rune a server cache clearance. It may be worth trying an RMweb cookie and history clearout too.