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Great to see every one is keeping Tony alive and kicking... well flogging the students. I am slightly worried about Andy R 's comment above... next year when I make it back to the UK I look to darken the door of a Mr Wright...!! (I am a rather tall individual!) I do wonder if us ANZAC's are slowly taking over... There is a large number from this part of the world that are making a bit of a trip over to see him! Funny thing is alot of us, Jesse, Myself, Woodcock... all model LNER! Any how great to see your all having fun. Tony will be saying things to Jesse about his tattoos and long hair... then move onto modelling... I suspect he will make endless jokes about P4 when I see him next 🤣

Your right Tony, Modelling what is non -mainstream is more interesting. I started modelling the NER area, in the steam period, in the late 1990's as there wasn't much in the way of RTR that really enthused me. I have my J27 that I built as a kit along with some converted RTR (J39 and the venerable J72 body on a Perseverance chassis) sticking with the LNER period and the area. Fast forward to today there are NER based locos ie the Q6, and the Oxford J27 that I never thought I would see as RTR with the Bachmann G5 coming later this year, OK the RTR companies are producing beautiful models that I struggle to get any where near but there are still oddities in the way of carriages and wagons that still need to be kit built though even this is starting to be eroded as the new manufacturers choose interesting prototypes. The lovely thing is that Modelling is a board church as long as we all see the skill applied to achieve a lovely model we are all inspired.

You could collect all those "need a plumber/ electrican" magnets that seem to be breeding on my fridge... just put a new sticky white label on them. Do your favorite locos first and the others can be writen on.... Ok Ill go back to my Hornby A4 fixing....

I have been looking at the packs and realized there are no LNER period packs...other than a Loco coal but personally I want a standard boring every day style pack that could be seen as moving coal around the system. These are the ones I would be going for and maybe a pre-grouping to go with them. Is there any plan to release them?

I have to say my response is for me only. I have the collection of a mates who died 2 years ago... which would have placed the rolling stock questions into the top end for each question! And that would be just 1 box of locos, coaches, and wagons... and there are multiple of each. I will ve interested to see the results when Andy has had time to collate them all!

Part of the presentation at last years BRMA convention in Adelaide from Simon Kohler, he stated that they do all the design work for each new release from the rails up and don't "reuse" existing CAD etc. I find this very hard to believe. If I was a design manager I would be stating - lets look at the information that we already hold in electronic form - Copy paste- Now lets look at the modifications and how we use what we already have! this would probably save 80 hours of CAD drawing if not more! So i take with a grain of salt what he said - he is in Marketing not in tool design, totally different skills- they may have only copied and pasted the bits they needed and then started to do the redesign/ upgrades to get to the new model.

Pete, I received the mag today, the photos have really shown the layout off to its best. It is funny to see it in print when we know it in the flesh so to speak! I hope you have a couple of copies for the next meeting so you can "show off"... you know the rest of the members will keep you grounded🤣🤪

Your right. However as Hornby is looking to capitalise on the interest in the streamlined LNER it is a cheaper option as all the information is held as they re tooled the B17 not that long ago (knowing me that will be 6 years or so). They already have the information for the loco chassis and the information on the tender chassis is held in the GS version. The B16 as much as I would like one I think it will be another manufacturer that takes it on. My thoughts were we were going to see a all singing version of the D49 with a couple of different tenders in either of the 2 main forms of Shire or Hunt. I suspect this may come around in the next few years!

Interesting to see the teaks back I was thinking its time for them to be back in. Well done Hornby!... ok their profile is a bit off. But as i have been running my set recently i was thinking another set would be nice. I hope their finish matches or is very close to the orginal releases.

I am glad I could show you how Colin. Other than a hand model the chassis as a standard Comet offering was accurate and well thought out. Now we need that gear box and pick ups. Hows that home work coming being a coat of paint?

Giles, Happy new year from Australia. (summer has finnally hit) Love hearing about the Bootham junction... the last 2 times we have been to York (now becoming a long time ago) we stayed in a B&B in some of those terrace houses. I love to watch where your all heading with this.

Ummm Martin I am assuming that the location of the front frame is based on a "narrow" gauge line near by? 🤣

Here in the next batch

Well it is new years eve and I have finnally managed to get 10minutes where I remembered and had the phone handy for the shots of the wagons.

I have been reading these lists for years. At this years British railway Modelers of Australia Convention Simon gave a run down as to how the decision making for all models was made. Interesting as their requirements were very logical, though below in no particular order:- - large number of liveries - Sizeable class - Sizeable geographic spread - shown up in wish lists and also direct correspondance and discussions at exhibitions - Has it previously been produced by Hornby (historical model range) - is one preserved - how many variations of the item. - Longevity of the prototype - is there a unusual demand eg the W1, rocket etc These all seem to indicate the volume of sales eg if there was 2 of them and they only existed together in 1880 to 1890 in deepest scotland- it would be a probable not!. I was going to write a email to Simon about the NER timber hoppers but never got around to it after the convention in september... but good on you accurascale! It made me think about the D49. and the conditions above. - large number of liveries- LNER, green, LNER black, wartime black, BR early and BR late - Sizeable class- 76 - Sizeable geographic spread- Most of the LNER system and Scotland- (People say Scotland misses out ) - shown up in wish lists and also direct correspondance and discussions at exhibitions- Always polling in the upper ranges of the LNER sections - Has it previously been produced by Hornby (historical model range) - YES this is one from the O gauge days along with the OO version of the late 70's and 80's - now in the railroad range but hasn't been available for a while. - is one preserved- Yes - Morayshire in Scotland - how many variations of the item. - here is the problem you have the 2 types of valve gear.... along with the oddity of the Thompson rebuild- literally any pregrouping tender could end up behind them - group standard flat or flare sided (already in the Hornby system for the B1's and O1's) , NER 4125gal tender(already in the Hornby system for the Q6), GCR tenders - Longevity of the prototype-1927 through to 1961 - is there a unusual demand eg the W1, rocket etc- No not really As the 4-4-0 chassis of the 80's allowed the schools (now re done by Hornby), The City and the compound (now done by Bachmann) is it not time for the scondary line passanger locomotive for Hornby be the LNER D49? I think there is a good arguement - some might say the railroad is good enough.... but a full version with lots of variations of tenders with little in the way of development costs- could this be a good option for Hornby? - Is this design sensible? Well it is one of the locos I would like and I'll buy at least 1....

The surrender of Japan is an incredibly interesting period of history. I find it curious about how much history is known but not publicized. and also how much is "embellished". I have been to Hawaii, we did the whole Pearl Harbor tour etc. Very important part of the recent history. We were told at the cemetery later that day that the US had won the second world war and it started when they beat the Japanese in New Guinea. Well ummm "NO" read the history of the Australian defense and attacks from the Kokoda campaign. (39th Battalion, reinforced by the 2/27 etc.) most Aussies who knew a little just walked away. Yes the US did all of the heavy lifting but there were serious support from the other allies, ANZAC's, Indians, Gurkas etc. On surrender I had heard but never read a confirmation that all of the Navy's guns were trained, on Toyko at the time of the surrender so if it had not been signed on the Missouri alot of the city was to be flattened further One interesting point I found was Rabaul PNG. There is a lot of history post the end of hostilities where war crimes were tried. As I lived there for a period, I have a passing interest, the impact of the war was and is still evident. But the history is not taught in schools. The old adage that the history is written by the victors is true. Yes, Aussies have a bad reputation for only remembering Galipoli (WWI) and Kokoda (WWII) the histories are definitely embellished from the stories. I am proud of my grand fathers both who served on Kokoda or in PNG (one in the 2nd/27th, though he said he was never there!... we know he was! ) and knew a member of the 39th (Choco). I see that ordinary people were called on to do extraordinary things. We are all better off due to the end of world wars and lets hope it stays that way.

A little bit of a shame that the thread has lost all the photos of the wagons. As I am expecting to receive the latest wagon sometime this week I will go through and photograph all the wagons.... (Ill have to clear the layout off again!) and up load them. I noticed that the value of some of these is slowly rising at Hatton's site. My latest was from the bay of evils. The postage was worth more than the wagon!

Dave your doing a wonderful job there. The fire boxes are a bit fiddly!... at least the A1/A3's have a datum of a front and rear edge. I am, or should I say have been building 2 Martin finney V2's for a number of years. I seem to get distracted by other things.... The first year of the pair went very well being year 1 of Covid. The second year all I built was Wills kits and buildings from Wills sheets 🙄... I need to get back to the V2's. Your build is very straight and lovely. 👍 I found with all the smaller bits hard to keep track of them, and that is why when I received the second V2 I found that it was quicker to build as there was less "Where's Wally" looking for the parts also knowing what to expect also resulted in the skills and amount to open out etc reduced. I ended up using take away boxes to put the parts in and a A3 pocket book for the instructions so that it was easy to flick back and forward to the diagrams and keep the etches in between the pages... another option would have been to sticky tape the bits onto the plastic so they couldnt escape! All the best

Oh is that what I was carrying around? It was a good meeting. More strangely was the LNER W1 running around on your layout that night!

Too late already gone! 🤣

Got to say it is onw wagon that I have had a like for, for a long time. Well done to Accurascale taking this from the others. Seeing the length of life, variations, number of liveries, it should do very well. I know I will be purchasing a largish number.... I alreay have the compeitiors Steel 20ton which I will need to mix into this versions. Can I make one request though. that is to do mixed packs Ie 1 loco coal, 2 (L)NER livery.... As it will make it easlier for people to ring the changes... Thanks for also stating that it may be possible to convert them to P4 gauge... I have about 10 of these in kit form that need to be finished off.... I wonder will the kits be finished before the Accurascales hit the shelves? 😀

Pete, ESU decoders have the possibility of a keep alive capacitor to be installed. Might be worth a google around for the instructions. - Locally the ESU's can be had from Metro Hobbies boxhill for about $60. I have bought a number there recently. Most of the instructions could be had from the Hornby mag DCC installs either sound or not. You can buy the cap's at Jaycar. Not sure which uF rating you need or the voltage but from memory it has to be higher ie 35v rather than 16v (the later is below the voltage of the dcc units!) ... google is your friend... or ask SRman he may have played with a few.

Please keep ones self nice....🤣🤣🤣

Wow I look forward to reading the BRM with this wonderful layout in it. However British railway modelling November edition wont make it to Australia until about January! it is a fantastic achievement I am surprised that it has fitted in a space of about 30ft x 30ft! I know that you have rationalised areas but you have acheived such a great representation that screams YORK!

Thanks Jenny, I watched that a couple of days ago. Very nice to see the arrangement for the rear bogie being so well designed. As an aside I think Bachmann need to look at a better design of PCB for the Next 18 socket as this seems overly large compared to the decoder. Also this takes a large amount of room in the bunker which could have allowed a larger speaker. This also matches the V2's which could do with a base reflex in the tender, the space is there but not utilized. I can see this is really a "modellers" view rather than a "manufacturers" view looking for the best fit speaker rather than "manufacturers stock speaker". I look forward to one of these turning up mid next year!