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Would be interesting to see what details the Signal Sighting Forms contain (not that we ever will see them). The Signal Sighting Committee would have discussed all the issues/planned changes (hopefully), and agreement reached, before the committee Chairman signed the forms 'off'. Unless things have changed very recently, the TOCs/FOCs would have (should have?) had representations on the signal sighting committee (it is a requirement of the 'Standards').

Thanks @micknich2003 . Thinking about it, it does make sense if both signals read over the same route, an economy or sorts, only requiring one lever for both functions.

Hi @31A, many thanks, I'm sure Mick will be able to confirm about the signal arms. Yes, the large YORK sign (cut-out flower bed arrangement) is adajcent to where the former Up Holgate Excursion Platform used to be - I'm sure there may well have been other examples, Harrogate being one as you mention.

Re C15519, I'd go with Longhirst. 43105 is just passing D&I 77 (the larger 'walk-in' grey cabinet) - also referred to as Longhirst TAC (apologies for the Telecoms shout-out, but we don't often get a mention!).

A very interesting photo Mick, thanks for posting. On closer examination, it seems that the left-most signal on top of the gantry has both the 'main' arm and 'shunt/calling-on' arm both off together. Was this normal practice? My understanding is that one or the other would be off, but not both at the same time. Also, the 'Automobile Purchases Ltd' painted advertisement on the end of the building can't be missed, nor can the 'Hull' sign - do you know if the 'Hull' sign was provided by the LNER (can't quite see which side of the boundary it is) or was it a local council provided sign - either way it seems rather large!

A nice photo Rob, but looking at the track plan for Wharram, 61068 is heading in the Malton direction, i.e., the Up direction (the Down direction being towards Driffield).

Yes, agreed. Looking at it more closely it is the check rail, but it seems to have taken quite thumping if it is distorted.

Are my eyes deceiving me, is it a trick of the light or an image 'defect', but in J14560 does the rail that the last wheel of 91007 has just passed over look defective to anyone else? Looks like the top is 'bent' towards the cess rail.

One more. From near the rear of the train, rounding the curves near to RAF Fylingdales on the run from Grosmont to Pickering (17/03/2016)

Sorry, I haven't a clue.

From 2016 after she'd returned to the rails after a lengthy absence. Travelling at speed approaching Flaxton crossing on a York - Scarborough test run (23/02/2016) On the run from Kings Cross on the Down ECML approaching Bridge 25 at 179.5-mile post, being photo-bombed by one of the helicopters filming the journey (25/02/2016)

Had a look for any return workings. From the same document: 6O55 WO (15:53) Tyne Yard to Betteshanger Colliery, and 6O55 FO (15:33) Tyne Yard to Hither Green. Both Commodity codes shown as '02E' (E for Empty). I've been unable to identify any 'coal' service to Northfleet (from the ER) in the document I have, so maybe the coal for Northfleet cement works originated elsewhere.

Just had a quick look in one of my WTT related documents (Eastern Region Freight Train Services Sep 1985 - May 1986) and although slightly later than your enquiry it does show an 04:10 departure WFO Cricklewood - Tyne Yard although the head code is shown as 8E25. The Commodity Manager code shown is 02L, the '02' relating to 'Trainload Coal - York' and the 'L' indicating 'Loaded'. Coals to Newcastle!!?? I'll keep looking to see if I can find anything else.

Finally managed to track down a photo showing the UQ and LQ co-actors at Selby station 'in action'. An eBay purchase that arrived today. Photo by H C Casserley, 01-06-1957.

Either way (the 25 or 47 failed) it would be interesting to know how far it got as this combo - Darlington?

Indeed so, but I think the unusual aspect in these photos is to see the bikes being carried 'externally' on the loco. I've seen a photo somewhere of a bike on top of the coal on a tender loco, and I guess that may well have been a more common occurrence, though perhaps not often photographed.

Not that ridiculous, nor unknown in this country! J77 68391 Bishop Auckland 27-06-1953 (Photographer unknown).

Hi Jools, No worries. I was always taught "there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers". And yes, your assumptions are correct, the number next to the running lines (adjacent to a 'dash') are the signal numbers, and numbers that are 'on an angle' relate to point numbers.

Thanks Andy. I've followed the steps again as per OP and it seems to have resolved the issue. Once again, many thanks.

I posted this earlier today, but on checking I think I may have chosen the wrong thread initially, so I'm repeating it here in the hope someone sees it. I appear to have 'lost' my premium status (both on mobile and laptop). Adverts have returned. Accessing the 'Theme' tab at bottom of page shows the system has reverted to 'RMweb 2021 (Default)'. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue or is it something at my end/setup? Any help/info would be gratefully received.

Hi Jools, Attached is a page from the 'non-official' route control diagrams drawn up by staff in the former Railtrack East Coast route control. Although it dates from circa 1996, I've checked the signal numbers against the 5-mile diagram for 2017 issue and the signals are still the same for the Tallington - Grantham section. The Tallington - Grantham section can be found in the 3rd and 4th 'columns' (reading left to right). ECML Route Page 2.pdf

Hi Jools, "... in the present era..." do you mean 'as today', or say, the 'mid 90s'?

I appear to have 'lost' my premium status (both on mobile and laptop). Adverts have returned. Accessing the 'Theme' tab at bottom of page shows the system has reverted to 'RMweb 2021 (Default)'. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue or is it something at my end/setup?

C011 would definitely qualify for the 'When the real thing looks like a model' thread.

One that I can think of is (or was) at Tinsley, right next to the M1. They cooling towers were demolished within the last 10 years (I think).