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I just think once you get past the Thomas pre-school age, kids want an approximation on what possibly their dads have - the same things we want - technology, accuracy, stuff to do. multi-coloured plastic tat trains with coco-cola on the side going round in a circle isn't going to interest them

Vaguely existed you mean like that industrial monstrosity. I suppose they 're also still doing the GWR thingy that lasted for about 5 years in the Edwardian era😂

To be fair I don't think any self-respecting young modeller above 6 is going to be interested in Hornby's entry level tat, fixable or not. Various toy 0-4-0's with generic liveries and designs - at least they seem to have made some attempt to make a train set that's attractive to a modern kid with that itravellers set coming in around 80 pounds, though again it's just an 0-4-0 roundandround in reality. Once upon a time you used to get a station, a siding and something to actually... well do with it. Still I suppose it's easier to sell the Beatles b-side set to pensioners and collectors😉

Can't say I'm very impressed. Lots of nostalgia for their aging demographic, lots of "toys" for youngsters but not much serious starter stuff for those slightly older. Lots of niche stuff and collectors stuff. Meh.

My item is now officially missing, so if you want to track your item to the point where it disappears into the Bermuda triangle of parcels (Somewhere near lichfield) I heartedly recommend Yodel. 😂

I think whether you used them or not this is a seismic shock as they were always just "there" in my lifetime at least. Hopefully the staff will find employment still in the hobby as they are obviously valued from the comments on here from customers. Makes you wonder how the manufacturers are getting on if Hattons can no longer see a viable business model.

mine is now in its 4th day of getting the 15miles from the depot to my address. if I knew they delivered on foot, I could have saved the guy the walk and met him half way.

probably!

well I'm definItely going to have a rest till after April😂 The trouble is its all about interpretation isn't it or more accurately yours vs HMRC. the example on the HMRC site is a good example. Sally clears out her attic and decides to sell her unwanted items online. This is a one-off activity for Sally, and the items sold are for less or the same as the original purchase price. well if its not one-off because you building a new lay-out and you're flogging the old lay-out items and loco's as you go? And technically there's a good chance you could get more for a loco on ebay than you paid 10-20-30 years ago. Taking it to its ridiculous extreme, if you had a load of mid-70's loco's you're guaranteed to get more than the original purchase price.

Yep I buy and sell occasionally just to save money. Why buy a loco for 30 pounds when you can get the same loco and others for 60 pounds and move the others on? I'm not over the threshold so if the worse came to the worse I wouldn't have the hassle of proving that I sold something I've had for donkey's years or indeed sold something for a friend like I did last year

Ah so I would be under the 1000 tax allowance where I would have to inform them from April 2003 to now. Thank you👍

The other thing is its April to April for tax, so if you sold 450 pounds of stuff from Jan-April 2024 could they theoretically look at that on the basis you could be over the limit for the whole tax year beginning April 23? Or is it strictly starting Jan 2024-Dec24 where ebay have to inform them of a seller going over the 1735 or 30 item's limit for that calender year?. There's obviously this gap between the April to april 1000 tax allowance you receive where above that they could theoretically accuse you of trading and the 1735/30 items jan-dec figure where EBay have to inform them. It's all incredibly vague unless someone on here knows more?

I'm currently experiencing Yodels tracking and to be honest I think I'd rather not know where it is😂. Parcel was dropped off by seller on 28th December Got to sellers Yodel local depot 29th Got to yodel national hub 2nd Jan Got to my local yodel depot 3rd jan and still there currently To be honest I'm in no hurry, it's post christmas and it's only a day off its estimated delivery but if you were in a hurry you'd wonder why their local depots take so long to move stuff.. For comparison I ordered something on the same day via Royal Mail 2nd class, no tracking and that arrived Wednesday. Edit: probably worded that wrong. I'm not unhappy with yodel at all. 7 and a half days for standard post at this time of year with a national holiday in the middle is not bad service imo. Was just an illustration that tracking can actually decrease your satisfaction because you see all the delays you wouldn't see if it went into the not tracked blackhole.

But they would have stopped in December surely? I agree it may persuade people on the fence between private selling for extra cash and going full time to go legit so will generate more tax but actual catching of tax evaders. And they talk about people with a side hustle which is not really dodgy commercial dealers imo.

I was speaking to a friend of mine who is a bookkeeper yesterday and he has no idea how it will pan out. He sold well over the limit last year getting rid of personal items like childhood collectables so he was interested .. He had no way of proving he's had them for 40 years in the loft rather than a car boot find the week before so he was pleased it was last year! I'm personally going to keep under the 1000 limit until I see what happens. The problem is its the equivalent of announcing a police speed check a month before it happens, so everyone miles over the speed limit on ebay will have left/gone legit. Political/internal pressures means this has to be seen as a success so barring a few idiots who will they catch? As Hal Nail said the onus is on you to prove you aren't fiddling, not for them to prove it, so if they start going after the "prove you arent" Ebayers we'll soon know from the media.

look I was asked why I held my opinion of hmrc. If some random doesn't believe me on a forum I don't really care. if you think they are cuddle snuggle bunnies then you really have no need to worry do you? End of the day those legitimately avoiding tax will just go elsewhere unless they're stupid, which leaves....

Tbf I would have said that if it hadn't happened for me. I mean who makes up a relative to get out of paying tax on 30 pounds? Or fakes an invoice for a sofa? Not really mafia type tax avoidance and even back then seemed a bit daft as a way of avoiding tax. . All I know is the last people I will ever knowingly annoy is HMRC. Have a search online and there are thousands of cases of them coming after people who don't owe them money or have been victims of fraud and hounding them to the point of suicide. Nope I won. I even phoned them up and threatened to send bailiffs round if they didn't pay up. An empty threat admittedly but made me feel better I just didn't want to go through it again after 3 solid years of stress and being employed made tax collection someone else's problem even if I took a cut in earnings. You would as well.

Total. That was my income before tax and outgoings. My accountant worked out that they had spent far more pursuing me than I could ever had dodged. I ended up with a day out at fleet street and around 3k owed to me. Quit being self-employed though - just wasn't worth the grief

I think I'd go with something more believable than my experience😉

Just from experience. 25 years ago I was investigated by the tax man 3 years running. Highlights included demanding proof I had a sister (she gave me 30 pounds for my birthday), wanting to check I owned a sofa and the brand etc.. and asking what I spent 20 pounds on that I withdrew from a cash machine 18 months prior. Ended up in the high court which I won and they actually owed me money. I was earning 17k a year so hardly the last of the big rollers. I was told off record it was because someone decided I wasn't earning enough money.! So yeah from my experience they do want to know about every penny.

Well that's what they sell it as. The reality is they don't want people making a few quid at a car boot sale or having 500 pounds under the mattress unless they know about it. Their ideal is for every penny to be accounted for electronically. Big brother.

Reading between the lines I would take the 1735 figure at the point they may take interest if your selling or tax affairs raised red flags. The 30 items bit is obviously some arbitrary number pulled out of the ether and you could easily sell x3 items more than that and not make 1735.

Way I see it they have to take into account your purchases because if they're claiming your running an eBay business, then purchases is part of the bottom line. Ebay can report sales of over 1000 but you would have to be flogging a lot I would have thought to attract the tax man. Otherwise it's going to cost them a fortune chasing everyone who has sold a 1000 pounds worth of items.

Yeah it stinks basically. Another attempt to audit everyone's assets down to the penny along with a cashless society. If you sell your car for 2k does that mean you pay tax on it. What if you bought it 2nd hand with cash 5 years ago? Can you prove you're not selling it for a profit? People will sell on marketplace or car boot fairs if they're clever

Have looked at this myself. 1000 allowance sort of covers it for me, plus you have to make a profit and I'm always ahead on my purchases compared to sales. Add in the fact I keep a lot of stuff I buy and it would be hard to prove it was a side hustle rather than just buying smart.