KR Models

8 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said:

 

Will that include the N gauge one as well?

Not yet, we haven't secured enough interest in the N gauge version, but the 'Expression of interest' is now live again, so hopefully, this will continue to gain more interest.

5 hours ago, miles73128 said:

Second payment request recieved. With wishing to challenge or critique other posts caution (which I’m sure is well intentioned) I WILL be supporting. It’s a balance and without pretending to have access to a full evaluation of the project viability, the advertising and website (mostly) look professional to me. Obviously it’s an emotional choice, but I trust that I’ll be receiving my GT 3 in due course!   

The tooling is scheduled to commence in July, so we are still on track, (pardon the pun).  We haven't come off the rails just yet.  However, we are having a few issues with the new website payment portal.  The cart and the merchant processing company are not talking to each other.  

You will receive your model. We will have the EP samples at Warley this year.   

There is a tempory fix for the payment merchant now, use the PayPal option.  Their customer services helpline doesn't open on the weekend.  

1 hour ago, Sails said:

I get the following error message when trying to pay the next installment This payment method is temporarily unavailable. Error details: Payment method is not configured. Please choose another payment method. The only payment option is credit card and I put debit card details in, is this the problem and if so can we have a debit card option and paypal for those that prefer that.

We have noticed there is an issue with the website, we are working on it now to get it fixed.  We will send out a notification once it's complete.  We are sorry for the inconvenience caused.  

4 hours ago, chris p bacon said:

 

After the post above which indicated that there was no prior experience of being either a retailer or commisioner and effectively asking for some latitude, a detailed question was posed (below)

 

 

Allowing for the time difference between continents there will understandably be a period of time before a reply (of sorts) is posted, but after 6 days and 2 visits to the site we have the sum total of these 2 replies.

 

Drumming up interest in future projects

 

and

 in reply to some advice.

 

I am starting to notice a certain disdain for questions from investors and potential investors when 'more difficult' questions are posed, which on past experience does not bode well for the future. 

I do have a business license for my registered address, which I am not sharing.  I do not need to register with Companies House as I'm a sole proprietor.   I haven't filed taxes in the UK cause I'm a non-resident of the UK.  I have filed taxes since 2009 here in Alberta.  Scalecast Mouldings was mine in North America, but it was more of a hobby than a business but has long since gone.  

On 29/05/2019 at 01:30, Bernard Lamb said:

Just a perfect illustration of the point I made earlier about your lack of knowledge of the UK market.

if you could just get it into your head that people are not being critical for the sake of it, but rather they are trying to offer assistance, you would find people more willing to accept you..

Bernard

That's a little harsh

On 27/05/2019 at 10:22, Littlethorpe said:

 

The N Gauge EOI option now seems to have disappeared completely.

Only temporally while we work on the new website.  We really want to see the GT3 in N and O gauges.  

Please excuse my naivety of not being on here sooner, for which I humbly apologise.  That being said, the whole process of being a new entity in the world of modeling has been a very sharp learning curve.  I was on the other side of the hobby, the outside looking in.

Research is everything, to know if a product will succeed.  So to produce a CAD drawing before you even know if the model will sell is business suicide.   You would invest all that money for it to fail, so it's done slowly with as much free research as possible.  So yes you may see posts of future models we would like to bring to market, but if there is insufficient interest, then it dies right there.

On 21/05/2019 at 05:52, polybear said:

In addition, the Cooper Craft saga has made many cautious on RMWeb (understandably so, as many have lost money) when it comes to dealing with Small Suppliers; being a new, previously unknown Supplier (and not based in the UK) only adds to the caution.

I am not aware of this issue, what happened?

19 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said:

Hey again,

 

Just went by your website. Think I may have found a glitch. Both the links to the N gauge and O gauge GT3 go to the same O gauge EOI form.

 

Any idea if that can be looked into? I tried yesterday, and today as well from both my laptop and mobile phone and got the same results.

 

Cheers!

I must apologise, I hadn't noticed the same form on both links.  

1 hour ago, chris p bacon said:

 

Can I just point out that there is a bit of a contradiction in your statement.  

 

If anybody questioned the project or yourself,  it was because you are an unknown without any evidence (as yet) of bringing such a project to fruition, so why wouldn't people question you ? How else might they gain confidence?

 

As I've said before, I hope the project succeeds.

The comments that I took offense at were against my credibility as a person without any evidence.  That had nothing to do with the GT3 project.

15 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said:

You don't need an account on facebook to view it. Anyway I am posting the images below, I hope @KR Models won't mind?

I'm really liking the looks of it! Have absolutely no need for one, don't have the money for one, still want an N gauge one.

 

 

 

Might I add, a huge thanks to @KR Models for being very forthcoming about the whole project, other manufacturers have ruined the process of "crowd-funding" for many, and many of the members here on RMweb can be quite nasty now when it comes to such projects. I've already seen quite a few snappy posts here on this thread, and I hope this doesn't discourage you.

 

May I please know if there's a deadline for E.O.I. for the N gauge version? If there's a deadline I'd probably not be able to pay up for a model, however if you're gonna have E.O.I. open until you reach the required figures, I'm sure at some point I'd have the money ready.

 

Cheers!

 

 

No, you can post away.  I don't have a problem with being open, to a degree.  What I do take offense at is when someone openly criticizes my integrity on an open forum, without any shred of evidence.  The proof in my business and model making skills will be in the finished product.  Sales have been very strong for the GT3, which is very encouraging for the next project.

There is no deadline for the N or O gauge EOI, as we are low on the numbers for both so far.  

22 hours ago, Shiney Sheff said:

 

I have no doubt it is, but which one do I express an interest on, both say O gauge?

I've just checked the website, the O gauge is first with the N gauge below it. 

On 16/05/2019 at 19:01, Hilux5972 said:

Expression of Interest now open for an O Gauge model on their website

And still open for N gauge too

There's still work to do, but it shows the work that we are doing to make it happen.  

6 hours ago, jf2682 said:

My comments really belong in the rant and rave section but here goes.  The ability of the English to box themselves in never ceases to amaze me.  "You can't do this" or "you can't do that", at every turn, and so many talking like experts on the subject because they are well read etc etc.  Here is another person trying to make a go of something and so many people acting as unofficial consultants, lawyers, bankers,  & accountants.

Hypothetically, if I were ever to attempt to make a model on a cottage industry scale (or full blown commercial) the last thing I would ever do is announce it ahead of time.  By posting these future models on a forum, I think we are setting things back to the old days when model makers produced items with no regard for what buyers wanted.

 

Actually, we didn't start this post.  But we had to announce our intention to build the GT3 as we had no idea it would sell.  Ok, it's not to everyone's taste and therefore research had to be done.  Our initial investment was purely to find out was there a possible market for this model, we have since been proven correct.  I'm not even going to mention just how many other models have been very sketchy in their interpretation of the actual example.  

9 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

Many of the images were shared with me on the basis that they were for my own personal use; I have no intention whatsoever of breaking that trust.

 

Any competent manufacturer could replicate my own research, and will have nothing to fear from those of us who care about the fidelity of models, IF that research is translated into accurate tooling.

 

Anyway, we were told earlier that KRmodels have researched GT3 at the (N)RM, and have drawings; (that no-one had previously managed to root out, it seems).

 

As I said earlier - I watch and wait, hoping to be proved wrong in my scepticism.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

It took a lot of time to collate the relevant material to even reach the decision of embarking on this model, not to watch it fail.  

 

 

 

On 13/05/2019 at 15:11, cctransuk said:

 

Given the number of photos and documents concerning GT3; (I have 104);  it won't be difficult if there are any to find.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

Oh John, even the NRM doesn't have 104, we're doing ok thanks.

15 hours ago, JSpencer said:

Good to see the CADs underway but would agree, the several weeks to July seems short to get tooling underway. Especially as some thoughts on how many parts, how to produce each part, order of assembly etc have yet to be thought through - so good deal of work still required. (And doubtless some checking the CADs are correct needs to be done too - otherwise it would quite quickly become the "not the definitive model we had hoped for" if features are missing, incorrect, incorrect size etc!). 

 

Good for KR Models if they achieve all that so quickly, but no bad thing if we loose a month or two either.

It's not been easy to get this far, but we are moving forward and the July window for the start of the tooling is a goal, along with our final delivery schedule of April/May 2020.  At least the rivet counters can't have too much complain over, they have nothing to refer to.  

15 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

It was also said that "As you can see the chassis is almost complete and the basic shape of the body is nearly there.  In a few weeks, the CAD work will be complete and the Tooling starts in July".  

 

As someone who has modelled this prototype, I feel these statements to be optimistic in the extreme.

 

I watch and wait!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

John, we are making progress, and it was more to show that we are moving forward.  It's a marathon, not a sprint.  We HAVE to get it right the first time or we will fail as a company.  Have some faith.

20 hours ago, Littlethorpe said:

Hi Keith - I made an EOI for the N Gauge version which I really hope goes ahead. Any news on how this is looking?

David

Hi David,

We are getting more interest, but it's a very slow uptake.  

13 hours ago, Hilux5972 said:

End of the week technically is Sunday. 

Be still your twitchy palms, you guys have no patience at all 

So it has been suggested that we were a scam, just out to take peoples money, have no credibility at all.  Yet the sales of the GT3 do not support this theory.  So just to show openness here is two of the development stages of our CAD work.

As you can see the chassis is almost complete and the basic shape of the body is nearly there.  In a few weeks, the CAD work will be complete and the Tooling starts in July.  

16 hours ago, BMacdermott said:

 

Hello Keith

 

Above is your response to Truffy's request for the LNER Hush Hush.

 

Not only is it on your wishlist, but It has been High Polling in the annual Wishlist Poll since 2013. It entered The Top 50 for the first time in 2018 at approximately equal position 19 overall.  It was the most-wanted LNER steam loco.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Wishlist Poll Team)

We have started the research of the Hush Hush, it's gonna take some time to bring to market. 

Here's a little teaser of what we should have by the end of the month

3 hours ago, delticfan said:

Seeing as Hattons are looking for £750 for an A4 and A3 I think you’re in the right ball park there, not sure how many you would need to sell to make it viable.

There's where we have to look at the production costs vs customers vs price.  Over price it, not as many will buy, price too low, you need more customers.