KR Models

We are aware people would want more than one, this is just to gauge how many customers we will have for this specific product. Its to figure out how much demand is there, not to see how many models we will have to make, that comes later from actual orders.

1 minute ago, woodenhead said:

Check your spelling on the front page of your website - BRAKE.

 

Also the Shark EOI mentions the King for which there is no mention elsewhere on the site.

Fixing the spelling now, thank you.

The King hasn't been officially launched yet, so there isnt an EOI yet.

Howdy fellas, just a quick heads up. The expression of interest form is now live on our website!

You can sign up today on our website here: https://krmodels.co.uk/collections/n-gauge/products/n-gauge-shark-brake-van

Any questions or issues, please do not hesitate to contact us.

8 hours ago, Steadfast said:

So, is there scope for tweaks to the CAD, or are we passed the point of no return?

No we can still make tweaks and changes to the CAD, nothing is set in stone right now. If you do see anything wrong that you'd like to correct us on, we are open to suggestions.

8 hours ago, Steadfast said:

Also, is there any chance of the later life plywood sided vans appearing?

If you could send me an example of what you are referring to, it would be most appreciated. Email me at research@krmodels.co.uk and I can see what I can do.

8 hours ago, AY Mod said:

 

Technically so as KR have not lifted any embargo but there's stuff all point me trying to stuff that genie back in the bottle so if anyone wants to create a topic they can do so. I just try to do the honourable thing but I wonder why sometimes.

We do appreciate your work, and we are lifting the embargo on the Shark. Unfortunately, these things happen, and now we just have to make the best of it.

1 hour ago, PMP said:

You suspect wrongly.

 

As a potential customer for a 2nd batch release, to see the ‘confirmation’ from KRM above that the models were in production without clarification of which chassis had been selected, I was surprised. The lack of that information meant I didn’t place an order for one of this batch.

Production implies that we are at the final stages and ready for delivery. We aren't, we are still working through the test samples to make sure the model is ready for mass production. Production should start around May and be ready for delivery not long after (though this is subject to change, of course).

So no, the model is not in production right now, the gearing system has not been selected at this very moment, and we are still working through the test samples to make sure the model is as good as we can possibly make it.

For now, thats all i'm answering on the GT3 on this thread. Feel free to message me personally at research@krmodels.co.uk if you want more info.

57 minutes ago, PMP said:

If the GT3 is in production, may I ask which drive option was chosen?

We are waiting for the next test sample to arrive before we start conducting those tests, the samples that we used at Warley, despite the fact that they worked, weren't ready to conduct those kinds of rigorous tests. However we should have a definitive answer by the end of the month.

1 hour ago, Colin_McLeod said:

 

It is my understanding (correct me if I am wrong) that the OO GT3 is in production with EOIs sought for a second run.

Correct. The reason the N gauge one wasn't put into production, is because we didn't even reach 1/4 of our target figure to make it a viable product.

1 hour ago, mdvle said:

 

For now, wait.

 

This became public early thanks to the ad in a magazine, as Andy Y stated it wasn't supposed to go public until March 2nd and thus it is unlikely the full information will be available until then.

This is correct. As such, the EOI wont be open until after that date.

1 hour ago, mdvle said:

 

Also, on the 15th they posted to their Facebook page that they were going on holiday for a week, and so don't expect much in any activity until next week at the earliest.

Half true, I (Michael) am still working.

Howdy all, Michael here

I realise now my father isnt the most articulate of people, and often his words aren't complete reflections of what he wants to say.

To clear this up, what he meant was that DJ has no involvement in this project at all, save for him going bust and liquidating all of his assets. All work done from here on is is purely our own and will have no assistance or guidance from DJ in the slightest. These CADS are not DJ's anymore, they are ours and the only thing DJ can do is watch as our project succeeds where his failed.

We do apologise for the confusion since this one is definitely our fault here, but I hope this has eased the confusion and (albeit warranted) anger towards seeing DJ's name come back. 

10 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

 

I don't think so - to the best of my knowledge, only the 4-4-4-4 version is being produced.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

This is correct.

As we have stated before, we have a few gremlins that we are trying to fix with a new software system.  Normal operations will resume very soon.

47 minutes ago, spamcan61 said:

Ah fair enough Colin, seems I am behind the times there; still in he wrong country from a consumer protection point of view though.

27 minutes ago, spamcan61 said:

...and quite few people got their money back, due to UK consumer laws.

If we are selling in the UK, we are bound by UK consumer laws. Having a canadian address doesn't change that.

42 minutes ago, 96701 said:

Why would you emailing Keith put your email address in the public domain.?

Short answer, it wouldn't.

Longer answer, any information sent to us will remain confidential, unless stated otherwise by the other party. We understand not everyone wants their details to be outed publicly so we assume that, again unless stated otherwise, they want to remain anonymous.

2 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said:

Thank you Keith for this post. it could have been useful a year ago but better late than never to clarify these things.

Apologies for not posting this sooner. I realise this should have been clarified long ago, it has definitely been a learning experience for us.

13 minutes ago, royaloak said:

hence the secrecy!

I don't know what you mean by "secrecy", since we tried to get you to email us to answer the question, knowing full well it would be posted here, so that neither party can edit either side of what was said, making sure nothing is misinterpreted. But apparently that was reaching too much, so I apologise.

Secondly, our delivery regulations are as follows:

1. Once we announce via newsletter/Facebook/on our website that the models have been dispatched for delivery, there will be a 30 day period in which you should receive the model. If you do not receive the model within those 30 days, you can contact us and get another one sent to you, while we collect the other one still in transit. 
2. Once you receive the model, there will be another 30 day period in which you may return the model for a full refund, provided the packaging isnt damaged, the model isnt damaged, and the model has not been tampered with in any way. After that 30 day period, the model will not be able to be refunded or returned.
3. If for what ever reason the model is dysfunctional or damaged in anyway upon delivery, or proceeds to break down or cease function during the 12 month period following delivery, provided that the model has not been tampered with in anyway outside of standard operation, then the model can be replaced free of charge (delivery is free also).
4. All packages are delivered and tracked by the Royal Mail, meaning that all packages will need to be signed for upon delivery.

I hope this answers your question, any more questions and i'll try to answer as best as I can.

39 minutes ago, royaloak said:

Which distance selling regs are you using again, is the the UK or one of the many US or Canadian ones?

What is your query? Email me direct keith@krmodels.co.uk

42 minutes ago, royaloak said:

Why dont any videos show it stopping and starting or running slowly?

The only assumption is it goes from zero to sixty in about 0.3 seconds and is crap at low speed operation.

 

Edit-

Just seen the reply below from KR Models, its a sample so fair enough, it is a work in progress.

The sample is far from the final pre-production sample.  What other manufacturer show you every step of the process.  I don't see Bachmann or Hornby sending out videos of their models prior to release?

2 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said:

Hornby magazine have just posted a video on YouTube. It also features in the latest magazine on sale today. 

 

Things already confirmed by KR Models on Facebook for being looked at is the side waggling, loco pickups (this sample only had tender pickups) I also notice it seems rather tall/buffer height is high on the tender. 

 

Like I said before we only got the sample on the Thursday before the show, and didn't get chance to do anything with before it was whisked away to be photographed.  But considering we have brought a sample to show only 8 months from taking the first deposit, not to mention this is our FIRST model, I think we're doing pretty well.  These issues will be fixed.

1 minute ago, Colin_McLeod said:

Keith or Michael if you were to upload a video of the GT3 running under its own power it would cut out a lot of the debate here and would also enable me (and probaly many others) to get off the fence and place an order before hour deadline.

We do have a video, but the file type for it is unsupported. Sent it to Andy in hopes he can figure something out for us.

Just now, Brocp said:

No chance of the 4-8-4 arrangement then Michael?

Not for now, no.

1 hour ago, Colin_McLeod said:

Keith will you be producing the 

4-4-4-4 wheel arrangement, the original 4-8-4 arrangement or both?

 

By the way the revised leaflet still says that the loco was "put out of service in 1952" with no mention of its subsequent service.

 

We will be producing the 4-4-4-4 arrangement in both liveries available. 

As for the incorrect date, that is my mistake. I (Michael) take responsibility for that, not my fathers fault. 

12 minutes ago, Phil Parker said:

 

Except that the models arrived from China after he arrived from Canada - or at least that's what he claimed. Until you have some actual facts, your constant continued critical posting looks to the outsider like a vendetta.

 

This is true, the models themselves arrived at my (Michael's) house on the Thursday while we were at Didcot and werent able to do any pre-show testing due to our already very limited time. Apologies for any confusion, I hope this has helped some of you.

4 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

Not bad at all !! Congratulations.

 

The question of whether there were grilles over the exhaust ports has long been the subject of debate - do you have evidence; (photographic or otherwise); for those on the model?

 

Will you be adding the roller bearing caps over the crankpins - and the chequerplate walkways above the battery cases?

 

Above the tender steps / handholes, the fuelling doors were outlined and marginally raised - presumably that is detail yet to be added?

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

The exhaust grills were in the drawings but removed during testing.  The crankpin covers were just plain and would cover the nuts on the conrods.  The chequer will be added over the battery boxes and loco steps. There are some other minor details that will also be corrected prior to final production.