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No. Sorry, you will find Peter did much better research, as he had access to documents that were not available when Dave was doing his work. He hasn't updated his stuff very much. Slightly off topic but look at my collections of open merchandise wagons designated (usually with upgrading of roller bearings) for clay, compared to the lists that Dave has published. http://PaulBartlett....com/brclayliner http://PaulBartlett....prenatclayliner Similarly In his latest book Larkin, David (2012) Civil Engineers wagons Volume 2 Early British Rail: 1968- 1977. Pub by Kestrel Railway books. ISBN 978 1 905505-24-1 vi+90pp Dave has omitted many of the double bolsters converted for long welded rail. http://PaulBartlett....weldrailbolster Studying BR is very very difficult. Many of the records were never available, and then trashed. The HMRS managed to get quite a lot before it was skipped and other records are in private hands, the NRM and Kew have others but a lot has been lost. It is not helped by so much being constructed by private companies and their records are also not readily available. There were local conversions which appear to have gone largely unrecorded - there are several photos in the Russell books of BR conversions for which very little else is known. I'll admit it is not something I have spent much time on - such library work was too much like the day job. Dave Larkin and Don Rowland did a remarkable job, but I'm afraid that all of the details will never be known. Paul Bartlett [and beware of the tables in Don's books, there are quite a lot of typos - I've had email rows with individuals that believe the printed word is gospel, despite photos being very clearly different, as were other published records - such as Dave Ls lists. ]

Beware. Don was misled by BR records and Dave L has followed this - as did the BR Wagon book Bartlett et al. Peter F is a lot more accurate. If the MRJs are the articles I am thinking about there are some howlers in there. Paul Bartlett

Stratford LIFT crossed my mind, for no particular reason, not having visited it. Paul Bartlett

Yes that is the one I meant is very similar to the one published by Marshall. Paul Bartlett

Jon, very nice. That last one will give apoplexy to some of the H&S police on this site! It is a pity no details are given of date or place. Paul Bartlett

There is a photo which amazingly is almost identical to the one you included earlier, taken in Rochester. It is 01 83 8090 008 in December 1982 by Bob Wallace, page 106 in Marshall A (1990) International ferry wagons 1st edition pub by Metro Enterprises Ltd, , Baildon, Shipley ISBN 0-947773-20-7. 144 pages There is a shadow around the door - I think it is set into the side. Paul Bartlett

Very nice indeed, one wonders what BR thought it was doing with these! The only photo I have of them is here http://bit.ly/MZPR2V B261650. Pete Fidczuk reports the number series as 261509-1714 Paul Bartlett

The Heather Findlay Band - Songs from the old Kitchen. An unusual disc, apparently genuinely recorded in a kitchen and bought at the gig on Thursday evening in the Fulford Arms, York. Just like the old days, brilliant music in a York pub with the Mostly Autumn clan forming much of the audience. A spontaneous reworking of some familiar and less familiar Mostly Autumn tracks. All either written by Heather or with Brian Josh. The musicians are her recently formed band - Dave Kilminster, Chris Johnson Steve Vantsis and Alex Cromarty, with Angela Gordon also joining them. Well worth a listen - I assume some of you will have caught them at Cambridge festival yesterday. Paul Bartlett

There are 1970s loaded bolsters amongst these collections http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brbolsters Paul Bartlett

Try Googling, for example http://www.gracesgui...es_Bank_Iron_Co may be of help. Certainly the idea it is in London is a possibility. The cleanliness of the IMS tanks is noteworthy - possibly quite new. Wonderful photo! Paul Bartlett

Dear Andy You may find what you are looking for here http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/baa A link to a photo of the models you are discussing would have been helpful. Paul Bartlett

Nice example of the Fibreglass AFP, originally Birds Eye livery - although the one I saw was repainted for MacFisheries http://PaulBartlett....tbafp/e1bb29b92Â Â The appearance of the conserved one does look like Fibreglass was successful - it appears to be in remarkably good condition compared to wood or plywood containers of similar age. Paul Bartlett

No, more of a return for them. The earlier CDs had much more variety of approach from celtic folk through heavy prog to some 'metal' rockers especially Never the Rainbow which was tremendous at live shows with Heather and Andy cavorting and Iain really going for it on keys. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/marotherhamcrs2004/e2985b86d I am really looking forward to seeing the new stuff played live as GMO certainly has some very interesting tracks. Paul Bartlett http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/mostlyautumn

A nice variety of finish on the line of minerals in the background of this photo http://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-railways/Latest-uploads-and-queries/Recent-uploads/23493000_vbhZzK#!i=1939311657&k=3jdKSXk&lb=1&s=L Paul Bartlett

But not originally when they were all to be coded MCV.I don't know when MXV was introduced - no mention of it in the 5th edition TOPS coding book of October 1978. The earliest I appear to have photographed were in early 1982. Paul Bartlett

Lifes too short to worry about such things. Please, just simply reproduce what you see, there are thousands of photos to work from.

I intended posting this yesterday but was interrupted. The Vauxhall crates are an interesting load for a mineral wagon. I think the high arc roof van is an LMS CCT http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsparcels/e1948338f I agree about the LNER Loco coal wagons, but South Wales does seem to have a number of earlier steel wagons, Dave Larkin caught a few there, as I did for example http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnermineral/h1b0896be#h1b0896be and http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lnermineral/e1d1141e3 Paul Bartlett

Wow Jamie that was quick. But also quite an advert for the quality of the camera in your phone! Paul

As http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brclayliner http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/prenatclayliner http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bscotube For example http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtube/e20501f9d http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtube/e3ca67247 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtube/e270430b6 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brlnertube/e2cd35542 And your scrap carrying mineral wagons don't all have to be too down at heel http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralclaspvb/e2d2176d6 But others are in more usual mineral wagon condition http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralclaspvb/e31214589 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e1ac627a7 They also had conventional tubes http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtube/e348853ee http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtube/e3d816749 You can also have some fun and have more unusual wagons http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtrestrolao/eee106c5 This view of Dudley terminal, with the comment added by Alan Jeavons shows some interesting traffic http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/freightlinerdepot/e2e5fe6d5 Paul Bartlett

Interesting, the loco, if identified correctly, is reported elsewhere as being a Gateshead loco at that time - It was withdrawn in 30/3/1984. http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=D&id=285&loco=40085 The train is an interesting mix of air and vacuum brake. Also, I am surprised that none of the railway staff are wearing high viz vests. I know this wasn't usual for loco crew at that time, but shunters? And it gets away at a fair old lick! Paul Bartlett

I did grab a quick shot of the Starfish I don't know if this was the original, it is a Starfish at Kyle in Gulf Red, but the running number is different. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brstarfish/e1935fcc7 I spent a very enjoyable few hours operating, and am looking forward to doing it again. Paul Bartlett

This is a remarkable photograph if genuinely Jan 1965 - two of the "SNCF" minerals (the only steel minerals easily seen)5 ex Private Trader type wooden minerals and an unfitted open merchandise (which in 1965 were commonly used for coal) and more of the same mix on the row behind! There is a steel mineral over the back, but looks like it has no top door, so an early one as well! Paul Bartlett

The one I have was by Lima. It was in a cheap set I bought for my kids many many years ago! It appears to be a good representation of the livery, but is a typical RCH wooden mineral with side and end doors and steel frame, whereas the prototype is a tippler. Bright red, white stripe no. 1928. Paul Bartlett

I've changed my opinion, although they don't have the tarpulin supports that were fitted to Anhydrite hoppers (but not from new, so I don't know when that happened) http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/branhydritehopper they appear to have 4 side stanchions, not 3 plus 2 of a Salt - Iron Ore hopper. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brironorehoppersalt Paul Bartlett

Having looked at Borra photo I think it has grey on it. As does this http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralclaspvb/eed8989d a clasp braked mineral. Not much paint remains, but the area over the end door has grey paint. It should be recollected that BR used the 'other' wagon paint colour as undercoat - they used freight stock grey underneath Freight Stock Red and FSR underneat FSG. It was much later that colours such as green were being used for undercoating. Paul Bartlett PS Ingot mould with holes cut in side http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brironoretipplerunfit/e616bde5