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At http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclayliner and http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/prenatclayliner Paul Bartlett

There were 4 4 BGA 961000 - 3 and 4 BHA 962000 - 3 and 4 BJA 963000 - 3 They have a number of unusual features, not least restricted to 90tonne GLW so that they could be used on the continent, they have BR type running numbers but also the basic exchange code 21 70 and other brandings suitable for continental use - including tie down cleats for the ferries. Paul Bartlett [the number series follows on the BDA and BCA]

BHA could be open or closed, as mentioned very rare, I managed to photo three of them, one in both conditions. For example http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bgabhabja/e3c78d9d1 Paul Bartlett

Just a very few more have been posted at http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/road The newest are at the end of the collection. I did manage to catch the lorry with the extending jib, but failed to record the registration number - I was running a bit late! Paul Bartlett

No way, far too young, you expect too much of me. The few I saw were black, as others far older than me have said, they were engineers wagons. I do wonder if any were gulf red or olive green? Paul Bartlett

The kit is a good representation of B34085 as photographed by Dave Larkin in May 1968, reproduced as Fig. 195 in Bartlett, P., Larkin, D., Mann, T., Silsbury, R., and Ward, A. (1985) An illustrated history of BR wagons, Volume 1 published by Oxford Publishing Company, 192 pages. ISBN 0-86093-203-6 Although in good condition it has had most of the sides replated by that date. As mentioned the bar across the brakes - which isn't in the kit Paul Bartlett Apologies, forgetting the plates are correct for these early minerals, it is the pig iron that needs them deelted. Another lovely model.

Boness has standard Palvans, after they had been in private use for a local traffic flow at Kilmarnock http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/johnniewalkerpalvan Paul Bartlett

Thanks very interesting, even if they do seem to think the Chiltern Green site was for unloading! I wonder when they decided Luton itself would be used for all loading - they even loaded French origin cars driven from the docks to go north. I just wish I had gone around Luton more often, it was an incredibly mixed yard well into the 1980s. The bocars with car bodies are interesting, I have an official of such a load but no idea where it was taken. Incidentally, I had always thought the period when "you can have any colour you like (for your car) as long as it is white or grey was a 1990s phenomena, but those train loads are pretty boring! Do we all remember when red became the standard colour for cars (and earlier c1970 I painted a Bedford van black, which was simply unheard of at the time!) Paul Bartlett

Earlier Victors were carried on Lowfits from Luton http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brlowfit/ef4d197 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brlowfit/e1502d5c6 Although looking like typical countryside, I suspect this is in the area south of Luton and towards Harpenden. OOPs, now read the caption, well at least I was correct!. I had no idea there was enough of Chiltern Green at that time to operate as car loading area. It would have been quite handy for the Vauxhall plant which is at the southern end of Luton. Paul Bartlett

I have found a slide that I have not added to my collection before. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmowtmineral/e5759b5ba From April 1968 it is a MoWt one of c1948 with all the doors - the end is pressed and independent brake gear. Also Sub ex 2. Paul Bartlett

Most of these (admittedly not all) are through the fence off Cinder Lane, 100 yards from home! As I have said before, I stupidly ignored the Jarvis days - I have always thought they went belly up because of their bill for purchasing new road vehicles; they seemed endless and got new ones when a wash was needed It is your interest that has stimulated me to take a few when the weather is pleasant. Paul

Dear Andy There are a few in this collection, although from later than you are requesting. There is one from 1964 in Essery, R, J, (1981) An illustrated history of LMS Wagons, Volume 1, Oxford Publishing Co. SBN 86093 127 7. viii + 180 pages Paul Bartlett

Bringing things more up to date, I have posted a few photographs of Netto Rail vehicles in the Yard at York, taken over the past 12 months or so. They are at the end of http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/road They keep them remarkably clean! Regards Paul Bartlett

I did consider that might be what was happening, but looking at a railway atlas it didn't seem likely - but I didn't know how they operated the local lines. One of his other photos has a tank wagon in the consist, and that could be a similar working. Regards Paul Bartlett

http://www.flickr.co...ams/6334787410/ - Interesting, I'm pretty sure that the PGA is a Yeoman aggregate hopper, well lost? [it is the one that is much wider than the other hoppers. Paul Bartlett

There are 189 photos of BR pipes to choose from! http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brpipe Admittedly quite a lot are not the same prototype. A few are from the later 60s such as http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpipe/eceeb1f1 Paul Bartlett

All of the condemnation dates are given in Slinn J N & Clarke B K (1987) GWR Siphons pub. by HMRS 122 pages. ISBN 0 902835 10 6 The earliest I can see is 7/61. Most followed soon afterwards in 61 and 62. There is one in 64 and one in 69. Paul Bartlett PS Why would an LMS BG be commented on? They were very common. Paul Bartlett

Remarkable in how clearly the dark brown (BS 3-039) of the "underparts" shows up. Paul Bartlett

Yes of course CO goes back a century, What I wrote was "The CO on WR wagons appears to have a similar function" because it continued and no colour coding is known for the WR. All of this has been discussed in detail before, but I cannot find the topic. There are numerous examples in my collections, but as mine (and DLs) are mostly from the 1970s onwards they had got quite mixed up by then. They don't appear in the official documents that explain brandings on wagons - whereas, as an example, the use of similar visual signals for mineral wagon sizes is in the documents. I hadn't heard any association with specific jobs and they are not limited to any particular type of engineers or ex revenue wagons. Paul Bartlett

Yes. Common on SR, especially on ex revenue wagons transferred to the Civils. But, seen all over when the SR went continous brake and their unfitted departmental stock was sent north. Paul Bartlett

As I have said, we don't know these officially and the new Hornby Trout https://www.Hornby.com/shop/2013-range/wagons/r6622-zfozfp-trout-ballast-hopper/ DB992185 appears to be http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/troutzfo/eba30fde Dave L gives some infor on these in Volume 2 - on page 84. He doesn't know much about them and only allocates to regions, certainly not to depot. This one he says is LMR. This is the same as BRHSG suggested back in 1979. The CO on WR wagons appears to have a similar function. Paul Bartlett

I have posted photos of a couple more shunting tractors - 66006 Massey Ferguson 50 as Shunting tractor @ Ripple Lane C&W 30/05/87 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/road/e54eaed42 - this is working! and 66014 PVY125F Shunting tractor with front loader @ Gateshead 24/09/88 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/road/e54eaed48 Paul Bartlett

I have recently posted some Bruffs and similar in http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/otproadrailer Paul Bartlett

Yes, often discussed on wagon sites, but no one has come up with a list. It looks like Hornby are using one of the Scots ones on a forthcoming Trout. Paul Bartlett