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    D869

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    We were expecting to see an emergency diesel lurking around but never saw any sign of one. A couple of years back we watched the Torbay Express at Starcross and it was immediately followed by a class 67. Not sure what the deal is now. If there was one there then we would have expected to see it hanging around Goodrington at the very least. In the morning at Temple Meads we also saw Tangmere before its departure to Weymouth and that had 47 245 hovering behind it. Not sure if it followed all the way but it certainly left straight afterwards.

     

    No booked "emergency locomotives" on either the DBS run Torbay Express or WCR Weymouth trips. The 47 on the Weymouth stock is just to assist in shunting and on the date you travelled I think it went on the Loco Spur (between Platforms 5 / 7).

     

    Alex

    (Signalman Bristol Panel)

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    barrowroad

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    I have not heard of the Pryer book, is it still in print, if so I shall have to buy one?

     

    I would try and track one down if you can, though it might be tricky. The ISBN is 1-904318-07-X, good luck!

     

    A list of the lever colours would be brilliant as would some route combinations. I have some information about which levers are which from a hand drawn diagram for the box but it is incomplete and the signal record society's website does not list this box although Engine Shed sidings is included.So far I have fixed lever 35, which according to my information is a spare, but the diagram and lever details would be much appreciated.

     

    I've quickly produced a list of levers and added them to my website.

     

    Alextrack - Lawerence Hill Junction Signal Box

     

    I wouldn't trust the lever lead nomenclature, it's only something I jotted down and I'm a Western man at heart and struggle with Midland peculiarities. I can't believe how 'messy' the frame is, the levers are all over the place. Thank god I was born in South Devon! :lol:

     

    A few comments that you might find interesting... None of the starting signals were "locked by the block" so they are devoid of a white band. As far as I can tell there were no electric points or signals so all the handles would be full length, levers that don't require effort to pull were cut down as a reminder. With detonator placers the chevrons pointed up for up lines and down for down lines. Levers 19, 20 and 22 worked both the point and FPL (facing point lock) so were bottom half back and top half blue.

     

    An interesting combination could be...

     

    29,30,37,39,42,43 (Engine from shed to say Westerleigh Yard)

    24,31,32,33 (Down Train for WR)

     

    I've also just come across your website especially the working timetable information for Temple Meads. I particularly liked the parcel train data as I am trying to gather details of the coach formations of the various trains which passed the shed. Any help here would also be appreciated.

     

    My interest in various prototypes changes quicker then you can say "armchair modeller". Last month is was back to Newton Abbot, the past week I've been putting some more work into Midford (thankfully the Southern were responsible for the S&D signalling!). I will try to complete the details of the Midland passenger workings though, do you have a specific year you're modelling or would like to base the workings on?

     

    I hope that helps!

     

    Cheers,

    Alex

    barrowroad

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    Wow, it looks brilliant so far! George Pryer's diagram in "Signal Box Diagrams of the London, Midland & Scottish Railway (L.M.S.) - Volume One - Bristol Area" does indeed have the frame at the back of the box and states that the M.R. Tappet frame with 6" centres was installed in 1938. As you say, it was most likely at the front of the box before this.

     

    Do you have this book? If you would like me to make a list of lever colours and which levers would spend most of their time reversed or perhaps some route combinations that would be possible at the same time then let me know. It would be a shame to produce such a fine signal box with an irregularity in the interlocking!

     

    Cheers,

    Alex

    -missy-

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    Surely, the "...or 2..." here is an error?

     

    In the 60s it wasn't a simply change from A=1 and B=2. When the rules first introduced Class 1 and 2 trains could carry Class A headlamps. I'm at work so I don't have much information to hand but for example in 1961 1340 Paddington - Weston-super-Mare ran as 1B12 to Bristol where it became 2B96 however it carried Class A headlamps throughout.

     

    Missy, check this link out...

     

    Bell Codes & Locomotive Head Codes

     

    I'm pretty sure that no Class A services would run through Highclere so you only need to have to top lamp working, and only at night. And, as you're modelling the British Railways era (I'm not sure when it changed) but I would have a standard tail lamp on the rear. Don't forget both these would be far from bright!

     

    Alex

    -missy-

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    Some notes on tail lamps that might interest you, taken from the Western Region Regional Appendix 1960 "Working Of Ex-G.W.R. Diesel Cars" section....

     

    HEAD AND TAIL LAMPS

     

    The car will not carry the standard head code, but the standard tail lamp will be carried.

     

    After sunset, or during fog or falling snow, or when proceeding through a tunnel, the tail lamp must be alight, and the two white lights (horizontally at platform level) must be exhibited at the leading end as Class 1 or 2 (" A "). When Class 2 (" B ") is required, one white light (at top centre) will be used.

     

    The switching on of headlamps after sunset, during fog or falling snow, or before passing through tunnels, must be performed by the Driver.

     

    The Guard or man acting as Guard will be responsible for seeing that the tail lamp is placed in position and lighted when necessary.

     

    Alex

    -missy-

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    Stumpy. I might add a few Ministry tanks, it depends on how much money I have, these tank wagons are the 'cheap' alternative to them. The plan is to make myself a few different tanks at some point and maybe even produce my own wagon kit.

     

    I've also got a plan to make a tank train for my 9F. However, at my rate of progress it will probably never happen! They're odd trains, the tanks all look the same but on close inspection late 50s early 60s trains are made up of nearly all different designs. If you were to do a kit would it be for a later or earlier design?

     

    I've had a look through your blog in case I missed something but I can't see if you described your photography set up? I'd like to photograph my work with a similar embankment against sky look. However, I was wondering what you do for lighting and how 'good' your camera is to get such excellent pictures?

     

    Cheers,

    Alex

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