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Did someone say EE type 4? Here's the green goddess being topped up on the SVR in Oct 2021. I knew this happened, but had never actually seen it.

Spotted during my lunchtime stroll yesterday (5th Dec), hot water device no. 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe stands at the west end of Temple Meads, with a Vintage Trains Xmas special from Solihull. The photo was taken from Cattle Market Road, which leads from the Temple Gate / Bath Road junction, under the station to a junction with Feeder Road. The name comes from the site of a cattle market on the land where Temple Meads now stands. The roadworks are in connection with a second passenger access being built on the east (St Phillips) side of Temple Meads, occupying land formerly used by the Royal Mail sorting office. This was demolished several years ago, and not before time really, as it was becoming a real eyesore.

I keep coming back to my recent Holland trip. Buses and trams use the tap on-tap off system and they have roving gangs of ticket inspectors, who will expect you to present the card or device you used to tap on with. If you didn't tap on, you're fined and taken to an ATM if you can't pay

Quite tame really, but we nearly had a database called Radio Access Network Cell Information Database. It got vetoed and called Future Radio Equipment Database instead.

Ha ha ha haha, you're funny!😜

And with this post you officially win RMWeb today!

I suppose an equality valid question is why was 46026 the only named class 46? Given that it's named after a regiment, and there were plenty unnamed 45's, you'd think a 45 would have been chosen.

I think you're not far wrong. That or sometime made an arbitrary decision that the numerically first of each class (as opposed to sub-class) would start with 001.

And, as I say above, it could handle the likes of 47500 & 31400.

They were in TOPS, as 1000-1073, 7000-7100, but the numbers were not applied to the locos

D9000 did indeed become 55022, similarly D200 became 40122, to replace D322 that was written off before renumbering. Had that not happened, D200 would have been 40200. There was a 47500, and a 47200, also a 31400, but not 47300. Which clearly shows that TOPS could handle 0 being the last digit, but not for the first of a class. Hence no 47000, 55000.

I think that is why 47500 works, but 47000 doesn't. Why though was there no 47300 or 47400, but there was 31400?

If you are simply numbering as a block, i.e. Westerns were from 1000 up, Warships from 800 up, then starting at 0 works. It's when you consider the first 2 digits as a class designator, the rest as unique identifiers, then ending in 0 doesn't make sense, as that makes the first one the zero'th, 001 the 2nd etc.

According to Wackypedia, fwiw, E5000 was renumbered E5024 as early as Dec 1962, long before TOPS became a thing.

None of which explains how (if?) TOPS handled D1000 & D7000? Or in fact class 08 D3000 had it lasted beyond 1972. Edit: D7000 withdrawn 07/73, D1000 02/74, (both according to wnxx) so were they ever entered in TOPS?

Something troubles me slightly. We're told that TOPS, contrary to popular belief, had no 5 digit limit on loco numbers, and that Western and Hymek 4 digit numbers were entered in TOPS as they were. We're also told that TOPS couldn't handle loco classes starting at 0, hence there was no 40000 for example, D200 becoming 40122. How then did TOPS handle D1000 & D7000?

What tube lines were being built at that time? Victoria line segments?

Have ORR set a deadline for CDL?

These are really good photos considering some are knocking on half a century old. I thought the Harbury cutting one from 1975 was much more recent until I clocked the headcode and odd position off the arrow.

<Pedant Mode>No class 45's were true Peaks, only class 44's D1-D10 were, the 45's were Regiments and the solitary Lytham St Anne's</Pedant Mode>

It's a Jimi Hendrix number double LP from 1968 so it would have to be a later naming.

Electric Blue Electric Ladyland Electric Light Orchestra Electric Avenue all of which would lead to a huge..... ......Electric Bill..... See what I did there?

Alternatively, one could follow the theme set by the Westerns, and have names with a common fleet prefix:- Electric Advocate Electric Pioneer Electric Renown and so on.

If I were going to name my shiny new fleet of cutting edge AC electric locos, I'd be honouring pioneers of electrical engineering. Faraday, Ohm, Wheatstone, Volta, Ampere, Coulomb etc. Ok there aren't 100 of them, but you could extend fairly easily into the field of science and engineering to fill up the lines in the book.

I suspect you could probably fit all the functionality of the early TOPS systems into a single chip that would fit inside a 4mm scale p-way hut!