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Only one of the pre-war clasp-braked LNER 5 plankers (a la Parkside) was known to have passed into Clayliner use, although there were probably some of the post-war 5 plankers with RCH brakegear and certainly some of the 6 plankers. The latter would either be a scratchbuild or an extensive conversion from something like a 3H or Cambrian wooden-underframed version. The LMS, SR, MoS (again only one) and BR dia 1/034, 1/042 and 1/045 5-plankers are much of a muchness apart from small details and personally, I would use the 1970s Airfix RTR item (since made by Dapol and now Hornby), although the above mentioned Parkside body is very similar. As well as the roller bearings, I would expect that most if not all wagons would have had BR-pattern axleguards fitted at the same time

I've said it before Peter but your 25s are spot on IMO, subtle and well-observed rather than the Gothic caricatures sometimes seen.

Like I said, get 'em while they're hot

It's B953810 IIRC Pix, not in the usual Gill Sans but in that rounded, vaguely LMS-pattern stylee. I think the ones in Jamie's blog are based on it, if you can find 'em

Possibly. The supply position with Bachy wagons seems patchy ATM, maybe because there are so many recent releases

ISTR somebody has linked to a photo on here recently of a couple behind a 4F in the early 60s, probably in an unrelated thread

Overshadowed ATM (unsurprisingly) by the lovely Presflos, the latest batch of bauxite BR brakevans are now hitting the shops. Get 'em while they're hot, cos they're cheap for what they are but can command silly prices when they're out of production. From a quick shufty, they seem to include minor differences from previous bauxite batches - the inner verandah screen is now (correctly) plywood sheet rather than planked, and the chassis bears a vac cylinder and associated V-hangers (which can soon be removed if wished - not many of these vans were actually fully fitted). It's nicely done though, so one of mine might keep it if I can track down a plausible number

not to mention

The roof profile looks GW-ish, if it's been totally reclad it could actually be an early Mink, a la Coopercraft. The clincher would be if it's 16'6 long (but dont go and measure it, yet...)

in invisible ink

Wouldnt have thought so Bernard - the 20s on that job were (generally) Glasgow-based ones used in layover time at Carlisle

Mmm, the light's difficult but I think you're right. If 8033 survived into late '68 like that (viz my ramblings elsewhere), it wouldnt surprise me if there were others into '67

Officially, with blue livery Conversely, many green ones acquired yellow rods and/or bufferbeams It wont be a cl.10, not there, and only two or three of those acquired blue; conversely (I like that word), Glasgow seemed to be pretty smart at repainting 08s in that style, even late build ones like D3877 in this shot

And misidentified to boot, as I guess you realised - it pound-to-a-pinch-of-snuff wont be D1968, but I could believe it would be D1958, one of those delivered in blue

I'd be *reasonably* confident they were the only disc ones Phil, but a few of the IS ones acquired that style also (possibly at Inverurie?), and also of course some of the 29s. Definitely a Scottish thing anyway On the subject of 27s, that Chard touched on in the green Peak thread, they dont seem to have been at all common on the Waverley (no doubt because HA never had any while the line was open), and I dont think I've ever seen a picture. The regular RO correspondent does however note occasional subs by ED ones from the Carlisle end, plus in around 1964/65 there were a series of crew training runs over the southern end using Glasgow-based 20s coupled to LMR 27s (which were known to be used on Anglo-Scottish freights at that time)

So where can I get transfers for those One of my teenage notebooks has '47 0 f*cking 60, 16 poxy 44' writ large in it, no doubt because it turned up on a Western turn

The assumption I've always made is that (patch painting being common practice at that time), somebody thought an even green line would look better than a worn, faded, oily white one - ditto of course on cl. 24/25s Going appallingly off-topic (sorry Russ), I did eventually track down my own holy grail in the RO, finding a mention of 8033 still being all-green at Stratford on 6.10.68. I would reckon it outlasted the all-green 33s by some months, but whether it made 1969 like that is a very moot point as the Fell 'Class 20s in Colour' shows it GFYE at Crewe on 26.1.69

Kind of. Because xx000 numbers werent used, gaps were filled - 5328 had been withdrawn, so 5320 became 26028, 5307 became 26020 and 5300 became 26007 - complicated, but it kept all the subclassses and braking variants together. (I havent been upstairs to check but I think I've got that sequence right)

Never seen a shot of it on the Waverley, though its WHL and Far North trials are documented. Not the only one to traverse the route though, IIRC there was one on a troop special c.1965/66 Slight understatement. It's what we in the trade call 'pants' This might have come up before Chard but assuming it's a disc one (and you mean it's blue), 5062 and '68 were the early repaints in that condition

IIRC the full changeover was a bit later (1977/78), but I think there were loco-hauled services in the summer peak before that.

The question is Flo, what does it look like to *your* eyes? To my eyes, it looks like a loco I saw nearly every day for the first few months of my adult railway interest, one that might never be available again RTR. I cant personally put a price on that Oh , and to save me repeating myself, there's this

modify a Hornby

political broadcast, although

And a basic-but-adequate chip is what, just under a tenner? That's a pretty fine value judgement to make on a model as offbeat as this