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On The Border - Al Stewart

Way Out of Here - Porcupine Tree

It's Over - Roy Orbison

Well that will be another future purchase then... A very splendid looking beastie Ian, will look nice in a varied rake of fish carrying stockage.

I can safely say I would like at least one C14. That is one fine looking beastie.

Calm down people. With all that is going on in the world, I see no reason for silliness. So we disagree, fine. It's not really "that" important is it...

It - Genesis

My Girl - The Temptations

Weather With You - Crowded House

Manic Depression - Jimi Hendrix Experience

Secret Separation - The Fixx

Hard Road - Black Sabbath

And that is all your right and privilege gentleman. I simply felt a forensic analysis was required - the choice is yours...

Gentlemen, I think the earlier comparisons with SLW are a little unfair since D1051’s pictures contrasted the very newest Bachmann release with one of the original Sutton’s models. The SLW Class 24 got upgraded last year with a number of improvements. This included much better radiator grilles, new glazing and re-done wipers. I fully expect these changes will be incorporated into the Scottish version of the Class 24/1 that SLW are currently working on and that I ordered months ago. I have one of the latest SLW locos in blue as 24009 in P4 – it’s a peach… There are some pictures useful for comparison over on the SLW page: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105551-suttons-locomotive-works-class-24/&do=findComment&comment=3776209 As I see it, there are quite a few areas of concern on the new Bachmann model which seem to have be overlooked so far. As Clive Mortimore said, the deal-breaker is the horrible fake body/chassis split-line which completely ruins the model - it is very obvious around the lower front ends and cabsides. I don’t see any way of correcting or removing it because that is where the body comes off. Bachmann have also missed off the real panel lines above the row of bolts. The complex fairing shape in the bufferbeam area is probably the most distinctive part of a Class 24. I am surprised this was not picked up in the magazine reviews I have read so far. Time spent looking in more detail is rewarding - here are some other observations. Triangle body panel – BACH Raised (wrong); SLW Flush (correct) Battery switch cover – BACH Flat; SLW Removable and detail behind. Boiler blow valve – BACH Detail missing; SLW Raised detail present. Roof coolant outlet – BACH Moulded square; SLW Etched detail. Main radiator grille – BACH moulded; SLW Etched metal. Roof fan and boiler grilles – BACH Plastic; SLW Etched metal. Small side grilles – BACH Moulded body colour; SLW Separate coloured. Cab handrails – BACH Crude overscale plastic; SLW Fine metal (etch?) Sandpipes – BACH Simple bent wire; SLW Detailed plastic with valves. Solebar fairings – BACH Plain mould; SLW Detailed with joins/labels. Bogie pipe runs – BACH Moulded on; SLW Separate detail parts. Silencer/exhaust port – BACH Moulded on; SLW Separate parts. Cab footstep – BACH Blanked behind; SLW Open through step. Coupling mount – BACH Basic bogie fixing; SLW Chassis kinematic. Cab inside - BACH Relatively simple; SLW Detailed with printing. DCC sound – BACH Single speaker; SLW Twin speaker system. Disassembly – BACH Lots of screws!; SLW Four simple clips. The Bachmann central roof panel is also very bland and fixings are in the wrong position compared to photographs of 24137 see https://flic.kr/p/Qj613Q I do hope these comments are taken in the way intended and it doesn’t descend into a shouting match, as over in the Heljan diesel thread. My pennies are with SLW. What do others think?

Don't - Mike and the Mechanics

In My Life - Barclay James Harvest

Raining in my Heart - Buddy Holly

Black - Pearl Jam

Dance Hall Days - Wang Chung

The Rain Song - Led Zeppelin

This is the 21st Century - Marillion

Well we don't mind..... At least Scotland had turned up to take advantage of the dafties behaviour...

Green, Green, Grass of Home - Sir Thomas the Jones...

I wish - Stevie Wonder

Two Tribes - Scallies go to London...