Russell Saxton

I keep hoping one of these threads will unearth a shot of 31294 in green but it must have been the most elusive loco ever, only one shot is known and that not that great, though unmistakeably 31294. One of these days.

I have a copy of this book, very useful though a few errors.

Yes I realised this earlier today. I've even got a shot of 7051 in the scrapline minus the white window surrounds. 7018 I meant to read that the list without panels is often quoted as 7000-18 but in fact it is 7000-19, I can see the confusion, sorry. 7018 was NOT delivered with panels. I have some doubt as to 7075 being GFYE, does anyone have a shot?

I have the following as a summary; 1) 7000-19 (not 7018) delivered without panels. 2) Blue without window surrounds 7004/7/51 (7004 later with window surrounds white) 3) Blue with white window surrounds 7010/2/27/34/6/40/6-8/52/6/7/9/64. 4) GFYE. 7000/9/13/4/6/8/20/3/31/75/84/92-4/7. 5) Scrapped in GSYP 7002/3/5/6/8/21/4/5/54/60 6) Scrapped GFYE 7013/4/20 7)Scrapped BHYP 7007/51 (no surrounds) 7010/34/6/40/6/7/52/6/7/9 I think this is accurate but any updates welcomed. 7045 is often listed as BHYP but I don't think so.

Reported in Sept 1969 Railway Observer.

Pretty sure 7041 was never BSYP.

No but 40140 was breifly green TOPS so it was repainted in early 1974, best I can do.

Good shots. But the original request was for BSYP......:-)

How certain are you of that Graham? I am pretty sure but do you know for a fact that none of the rest did? I only knew of D5708 for many years until a shot of D5707 appeared. if you're 100% sure I'm happy to take that as gospel.

Can now be 100% certain that D5709 did NOT have FYE. It never ran in traffic after June 1965 and lay in Crewe Works fopr two years before being towed back to Upperby minus engine. https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/9670531413/

Hmmmm I suspected as much. That's good because I can delete that record as tripe now.

Pretty sure it didn't. But it may have done...

200 6/5/70 RC 201 23/9/71 RC 202 4/10/67 RC 203 10/9/68 RC 204 25/9/70 RC 205 25/8/72 RC 206 13/6/67 RC 207 22/2/68 RC 208 5/10/72 RC 209 24/10/72 RC 211 15/12/72 RC 212 20/5/71 RC 213 1/7/71 RC 214 23/3/72 RC 215 29/12/69 RC 216 9/5/68 RC 219 19/8/70 RC 220 4/1/72 RC 221 23/11/72 RC 223 11/12/72 RC 224 5/5/71 RC 225 7/12/70 RC 226 23/6/72 RC 227 22/2/70 RC 228 2/3/72 RC 229 17/4/74 RC 230 26/2/71 RC 232 7/7/72 RC 233 9/5/68 RC 234 10/5/72 RC 236 28/2/72 RC 237 11/5/67 RC 238 8/3/68 RC 240 26/6/67 RC 241 26/7/72 RC 242 15/9/69 RC 243 26/5/72 RC 244 27/11/72 RC 245 24/7/67 RC 246 13/11/70 RC 247 4/4/72 RC 248 31/8/67 RC 249 23/6/71 RC 250 20/8/68 RC 251 14/9/67 RC 253 16/6/71 RC 254 8/10/71 RC 255 7/2/72 RC 256 13/6/69 RC 257 20/3/72 RC 258 15/1/70 RC 259 26/8/68 RC 260 30/11/71 RC 261 C 8/68 GWKS 262 C 10/69 GWKS 263 2/8/71 RC 264 8/1/71 RC 265 C 11/68 GWKS 266 C 10/69 GWKS 267 21/10/71 RC 268 8/12/71 RC 269 17/12/71 RC 270 C 10/5/67 271 26/10/67 RC 272 27/4/71 RC 273 4/9/69 RC 274 16/4/69 RC 275 17/10/68 RC 276 30/10/69 RC 277 28/5/69 RC 278 Circa march 1971 279 20/4/71 RC 280 18/11/67 RC 281 21/8/69 RC 282 10/10/69 RC 283 16/2/71 RC 284 15/7/70 RC 285 2/6/70 RC 286 21/7/69 289 5/10/72 RC 290 291 28/8/70 RC 292 13/12/72 RC 293 10/6/70 RC 294 29/11/70 RC 295 6/6/73 RC 297 28/12/72 RC 298 24/4/72 RC 299 26/5/72 RC 300 9/8/72 RC 302 7/9/72 RC 303 21/1/72 RC 304 c 7/74 305 08/03/1972 307 approx sept 73 at derby. 308 27/6/72 RC 309 12/1/73 RC 310 15/2/73 RC 311 23/2/73 RC 312 29/10/72 RC 313 4/2/72 RC 314 16/6/72 RC 316 30/3/72 RC 317 318 319 3/2/71 RC 320 9/12/72 RC 321 17/4/72 RC 323 30/10/72 RC 324 2/9/71 RC 325 9/8/73 RC 326 9/3/73 RC 327 11/6/73 RC 328 5/12/72 RC 329 approx mar 74 330 8/4/71 RC 331 Between 8/73 and 6/74 332 31/9/69 RC 334 22/3/73 RC 341 25/4/73 RC 342 12/8/71 RC 343 Between 8/73 and 5/74 344 23/3/72 RC 346 23/4/70 RC 347 11/5/73 RC 348 27/10/72 RC 349 12/12/70 RC 350 2/4/73 RC 351 23/6/72 RC 352 2/12/69 RC 354 26/10/70 RC 355 1/9/71 RC 356 29/9/67 RC 357 Between 8/73 and 3/74 358 28/12/71 RC 359 approx 9/73 360 18/8/70 RC 362 29/5/72 RC 363 23/12/70 RC 364 C 7/68 GWKS 365 between 10/72 and 2/73 366 18/10/72 RC 367 28/9/72 RC 368 1/2/71 RC 370 5/9/71 RC 372 6/8/73 RC 373 9/10/72 RC 374 Between 8/73 and 5/74 375 13/9/73 RC+ 377 26/6/72 RC 378 30/12/69 RC 379 between 8/73 and 5/74 385 10/11/72 RC 386 18/5/73 RC 388 8/4/70 RC 391 approx 10/73 392 approx 10/73 393 29/10/69 RC 394 25/11/69 RC 395 Between 8/73 and 5/74 396 2/2/73 RC 397 16/11/71 RC 398 approx 2/74

I did publish the full list or repaints of 40s green to blue some while back in Railways Illustrated, happy to send it to anyone who needs it. Or just print it here, prob easier.

D8501 BFY ?? Definitely-repainted blue Nov 1967. D8506 GFY ?? According to RO, yes. D8517 GSY (probably) D8518 GSY (probably) D8533 GSY (probably) D8544 GSY (probably) D8547 GSY (probably) Some possibility of GFYE D8553 reported as GSY & BFY D8555 GSY (probably) D8569 GSY (probably) D8575 GSY (probably) D8578 GSY (probably) D8581 GFY ?? According to RO yes D8589 GFY (probably) D8594 GFY (but i believe it may of gone in GSY) D8596 GFY ?? D8599 GSY (probably) D8602 GFY ?? D8603 GSY (probably) D8609 GSY (probably) The others match my records.

Sure on that Trev? I have 8514 and 8571 down as blue ex works 10/10/70 listed in railway magazine Dec 1970.

I have no record for it either way.

Railway Obsever March 1967 reports D8403 had them on 28/1/67. No photo in my collection though.

I've got the same dates. 9001 was AB fiited in early 1968 but was outshopped in patched up green.

Only 45s. Toton sprayed at least 20 in June 1966. D4 is supposedly another but all the evidence says not.

I've been trying to discover the last regular steam workings along the Erewash Valley and also in Nottingham and Derby. Last I can find for the Erewash is Dec 1966 but I'm sure there were a few into 1967. 45284 appeared at Nottingham Midland in either July or Aug1967.

As is the way of these another typo that slipped by me. D172 is listed as repainted by Brush 14/10/66 which it WAS serviced by but remained in economy green until late 1970. I missed updating it as I screened the dates.

I don't know when 25 got GFYE, the shot is dated 15/2/69 so it may have been as much as two years beforehand. It wasn't long after as the article shows another shot of it ex works blue a few weeks later. I suspect it was not that much previously as so few shots exist.

The other Class 12 was 15211, I have a good colour shot of it but can't post here, though I can PM you with it.

There is one other that as is the way of these things came to light after the event, GFYE no 25 also lost its D prefix along with 30. Hope you enjoyed the article and found the gen useful.