jhock Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 I just wanted to float an idea with you guys and get some feed back on plausibility. I have a bit of thing for the timber industry, not sure why I just really like the idea of layout based around it. The origin plan was to make an EM layout set some where present day Scotland with a small high land station and a siding where timber was loaded onto OTA’s. However circumstances change and find myself in much smaller accommodation. So here is the new plan: What if there was forest some where in Scotland or Wales where lorry access was just impossible, soft ground, or some such other reason. So in order get the timber from the forest to a point where it can be loaded onto lorry’s a narrow gauge railway is contracted? I know it is not very likely to happen but it could and that is good enough for me! So the layout: 009 - using Peco track to make my life simple Very small - 2ft by 18inch - maybe a bit smaller (so it fits in the cupboard, this prevents girl friend from killing me) It would represent the point where the timber is loaded from the train to the lorry. (Which I have already built) Not done much with 009 before so any tips on where to find a suitable diesel loco kit would be great. Any feed back welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted September 23, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2010 Hi jhock If you are looking for suppliers for 009, then speak to Parkside Dundas. They probably have the most comprehensive range. There are some very nice diesels available from Liliput (strictly speaking - HO9 scale, but who's counting!). If you are looking for kits, Chivers Finelines do several whitemetal ones that fit on Farish 'N' gauge chassis (quite easy to build). If you've not already done so, have a look at 009 Society website. Plenty of inspiration there! I've no connection with Parkside Dundas, just a satisfied customer. Regards Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 You could try and get hold of the N gauge Bachmann Spectrum 44-tonner, and then fit a larger cab - which would give you a nice "contractors" loco - eminently suitable for your purpose - there is one on this video . You may have to order direct from USA . Review here http://mrr.trains.co...locomotive.aspx and a supplier here http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/N_Scale_GE_44_Ton_Switcher_s/2772.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 A Chivers Diema (available from Parkside Dundas) would suit the task well, light enough for the track but powerfull enough for the task. There's only 1 n.g. Diema in this country but there are some in Eire so its not too out of place. Edit: Couldn't find it on Parksides site, perhaps now unavailable? However the 'freelance' modern Hudson Hunslet will fit the bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted September 23, 2010 Author Share Posted September 23, 2010 Thanks guys, having a look through Parkside's site now, lots of very nice stuff. I do like the Liliput loco but perhaps a bit 'mainline' for my purpose. It's going to tkake a while to look through all thier stuff! What about the concept, do think it is plausable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 What about the concept, do think it is plausable? Possibly, but a lot of forestry sites that I know of are very hilly, making building and running a n.g. railway difficult. Especially with all the specialised logging equipment available to make felling and removing wood easier. However, n.g. railways have been used for that purpose, mainly during WW1. Could a system from then have survived to modern times? Plausable or not, it would make an interesting layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 A Chivers Diema (available from Parkside Dundas) would suit the task well, light enough for the track but powerfull enough for the task. There's only 1 n.g. Diema in this country but there are some in Eire so its not too out of place. Edit: Couldn't find it on Parksides site, perhaps now unavailable? However the 'freelance' modern Hudson Hunslet will fit the bill. Just had another look - the Diema is under 'overseas' and is Chivers RC71. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 You could have it as an extension or branch from one of the 'preserved' lines; several run through or near Forestry Commission land - that would keep the civil engineering to a minimum, thereby making it cheaper and so more plausible. In that case it would probably be worth sticking with 4mm scale, using available kits. If it's a completely self-contained line you may as well do it in H0, using imported equipment (i.e. R-T-R/kit) on 750mm/760mm gauge (i.e. H0e). There are plenty of H0 figures and vehicles around so the non-rail side would be easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 23, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2010 The lilliput 2091 centre cab and some of their bogie wagons suitably modified and painted might be worth considering. If you want pics of UK narrow gauge in pine forest look at the Vale of Rhiedol for inspiration pictures. Other suitable locos are the lilliput zillertal shunters the forthcoming bogie loco too, stangl do the older Austrian 2095 that has been UK'd by a few in the past too. Bemo do a nice 060 with rod drive too. Also consider 3mm etch kits of UK prototypes look on the 3mm society site and I think it's 3smr if you want small UK locos that can be 009 bashed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 23, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2010 And I think Worsley works now do a 009 etched body version of the DHR NDM6 which could be mounted on the Kato four wheel tram chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted September 24, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2010 Your concept of a modern NG site railway due to boggy terrain isn't implausible and did happen in the last year or so. Unfortunately I can't remember when exactly but have a vague idea it was in the New Forest. It got coverage on the gnatterbox minimum gauge forum at the time with photo's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zabdiel Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I like the plan I've thought of doing something similar, but using an alternative reality where north Wales had a reasonable network narrow gauge railways which survived being closed. I started with that concept and timber traffic was one of the ways I justified it still existing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted September 24, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2010 You could always carry on with your original plan but in N Gauge... Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 You could always carry on with your original plan but in N Gauge... Happy modelling. Steven B. N is bit small for me! Plus I really want to make use of the Timber truck I made, there is a lot of effort in that trailer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 24, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2010 Here's one site worth looking around if you fancy some bodies and stock that could be modified to enlarge doors and put on commercial N gauge chassis to make something different. I scratchbuilt a 66 and 158 for 009 based on shortened 3mm scale drawings. The Peco long N gauge wagon chassis are good to use too. http://www.3smr.co.uk/locosdiesel.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastworld Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 If you want a relatively cheap diesel Parksdie Dundas sell an etched brass body kit by A1 Models which fits on the Bachmann Plymouth Switcher chassis. Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
invercloy Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Great concept! Nice to see someone else modelling a Scottish layout in 009! For a modern image layout you might like to consider something like this: It's available from http://www.shapeways...tml?gid=mgarray at a little under £25 + chassis. Have you ever heard of a layout called Glenbranter? That was set around a logging line in Scotland with a tourist operation also. If you did something similar then you could run a much greater range of stock, plus goods specials etc. I can't recommend joining the 009 Society enough, it's REALLY helped me learn a few things whilst building Dunbracken, and various items of stock over the year. We're a friendly bunch and hold local area group meetings which might be good to attend if you are a newbie. Take a peek at NGRM (link in my signature) there are some top notch 009 modellers on there, several of us are also interested in Scottish NG. I know they'd love to read about what you have planned, and you will get more specialist advice. Look forward to reading more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermunch1982 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I do like that loco body, really do, very crisp Would it be possible to take some external measurements from the loco as the one of the website arent the best. External Length - Width - Height - Internal for chassis Length - Width - I have a N gauge Bachmann class 24 chassis to install and not sure it will fit?? Just to recap, this is a 009 narrow gauge loco body to run on n gauge 9mm track? I am thinking O9 thats all and how much chopping I would have to do to get a O gauge figuer in. Cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
invercloy Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Sorry, but I only saw it for 10 minutes at an exhibition in the Netherlands whilst I was over there with Dunbracken. Not sure if there's a way of contacting the supplier through that website... Failing that Andrew Burnham from Continental Modeller showed it to me, so it may be appearing in CM soon. It was a very snug fit on the chassis, so not sure what chassis it will fit as I don't have the one it's designed for to measure up and compare with the class 24. It is HOe (3.5mm scale) but it's big enough to easily be able to run as a 009 loco. It will accept various N gauge chassis that are narrow, I just can't tell you which ones unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermunch1982 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not a problem, based on what I saw on here I went out and bought one, so if anyone needs dimensions, just let me know. Its a strange material and has a bit of a rough surface to it, but cant complain at all. Can be cut and filed no problems. It is a little short for the Bachmann class 24 chassis so its going to need a stretch of approx 10mm but fits the hole for chassis with a bit of cutting and filing without damaging the look/body. As its going to be an O9 loco I will post under a seperate topic when I get time to work on it Cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 You could always fit a short nose at the other end for auxiliaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 External Length - 87mm (excluding couplings) Width - 27mm Height - 38mm (incl chassis) Internal for chassisThe slot is approx: Length -74mm Width - 11mm The chassis they recommend is a Lifelike SW1200 with the body removed, its a tight fit. I have used an Atlas chassis on the last one - bogie centres 44mm, bogie w/base 15.5mm. I haven't got a side-on drawing for it, though, so I don't know how accurate it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 External Length - 87mm (excluding couplings) Width - 27mm Height - 38mm (incl chassis) Internal for chassisThe slot is approx: Length -74mm Width - 11mm The chassis they recommend is a Lifelike SW1200 with the body removed, its a tight fit. I have used an Atlas chassis on the last one - bogie centres 44mm, bogie w/base 15.5mm. I haven't got a side-on drawing for it, though, so I don't know how accurate it is! A rudimentary googling is struggling to find a supplier for the lifelike sw1200. Do you know where I can get one in Europe? Either UK, NL, or DE prefered. Thanks J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Sorry, Julia, mine came via ebay from the USA... They also turn up on the 009 s/h stall from time to time under a scratchbuilt body! Personally I prefer the Atlas chassis, though I was lucky with that purchase, I haven't got a clue what the chassis was mounted on originally! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hi jhock, just wondering where you sourced the crane for the timber truck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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