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Bachmann have announced these, the fact they've marked them as 21t is a little confusting, but Im guessing this is the 20t LMS version? Diagram 1689? or BR 1/270 or 1/271?

whatever version it is Im looking  forward to getting a few

 

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38-600                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Grey                                                                                     

38-601                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Bauxite                (Early)                                                                  

38-602                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Bauxite (Late) 

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Bachmann have announced these, the fact they've marked them as 21t is a little confusting, but Im guessing this is the 20t LMS version? Diagram 1689? or BR 1/270 or 1/271?

whatever version it is Im looking  forward to getting a few

 

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38-600                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Grey                                                                                     

38-601                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Bauxite                (Early)                                                                  

38-602                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Bauxite (Late) 

 

Oooh, I notice it's got the Dowty buffers with the 16'' head that I've just done for the Airfix ESSO tankers....

 

Dave.

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Michael, the wagon in your first photo is a diagram 1/275 as they were vacuum fitted. Wagons with a similar body but shorter wheelbase and unfitted or piped are 1/271. The earlier style ones with the ribs extending onto the roof are 1/270 (similar to late LMS) but those in some of the photos with a different shape roof look like the early LMS ones.

 

They do seem to have been 20t but some of the photos on Paul Bartlett's site show them as 20.5t, I think that may be the metric version (tonnes as opposed to tons).

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Bachmann have announced these, the fact they've marked them as 21t is a little confusting, but Im guessing this is the 20t LMS version? Diagram 1689? or BR 1/270 or 1/271?

whatever version it is Im looking  forward to getting a few

 

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38-600                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Grey                                                                                     

38-601                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Bauxite                (Early)                                                                  

38-602                   21 Ton Grain Hopper BR Bauxite (Late) 

This is a photo of a 275, vacuum braked one. They are NOT doing the LMS one - all bar the final lot had a flatter roof profile http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsgrain

except the final batch which had the profile that developed into 270, as rivetted and then 271 as welded.

 

quick search, seems the old Dapol one has errors but can be worked with..

 

http://nevardmedia.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/updating-Dapol-grain-wagon.html

 

 

No its too short, and Nevard didn't modify it if the article in Model Rail is correct. Some others have lengthened the Hornby Dublo model

 

 

 

21tonne would be reasonably accurate - metric. I suggest that wait and see is much better than all this frothing about a prototype photo.

 

Paul

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cheers Paul

The main reason I wanted to know what version they are doing was so that I could look into modelling the version that they aren't doing.

They aren't doing the LMS rivetted low profile or high profile rivetted type (became 240)  Nor the GWR ones - K's did a quite reasonable representation of the steel GWR GRANO http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrgrain/e29e929ef  And Parkside makes the very nicely interesting LNER version. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnergrain  As you can see these survived pretty well as long as the later BR unfitted vans.

 

Paul Bartlett

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would it be possible or indeed worth it trying to mod the BR one into the LMS one? by adding a piece to the top sides, maybe if it was something like a cast resin piece to the LMS profile? or is there other dimensions and differences elsewhere on the wagon?

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Bachmann Europe Plc would like to clarify that the BR 21 Ton Grain Hopper 38-600 announced in the 2013/14 range will be of a wagon built to the BR Diagram No 1/271.

 

Unfortunately the wrong photograph was used in the catalogue on page 166, this being for the longer BR Diagram 1/275 and was not noticed until after the catalogue went to print.

 

Bachmann apologise for this error and any confusion caused.

 

If you wish to see photographs of the 1/271 diagram, please visit Paul Bartlett's excellent website. http://paulbartlett.....com/brgraincgo

 

Bachmann Research & Development Dept

 

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Never mind all this weight business, I am definitely having one labelled for GRAN, adjacent D2217 in the picture above, post 15.

 

Regrettably it's a GRAIN, it's a ropey photo, the letters are spaced very close together, compare with the adjacent wagon.

 

Mike.

 

Was going to say it's a coarse grain picture!

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