enginelane Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Sunny morning with little chance of rain.... So boards up in the garden and chance to layout buildings and track. Image 1 has points on furthest board away producing longer sidings on near board and more sweeping down and up line moving into the point. Image 2 has points on near board producing shorter sidings but slightly more track before it runs off onto sceniced fiddle yard. I think this looks more cramped. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Smaller warehouse will be served by same road access as larger warehouse but no rail served. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Schultz garage will give reason for road access opposite the tenements Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) Cannot remember this building but will add another rail served siding next to the team track Edited July 13, 2014 by enginelane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Decided to go with the longer siding and track plan now transferred onto the boards to check train movements with stock in place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Trying out traffic movements to check clearances and siding length is correct. Having 50' stock as max length will mean trains will be able to be slightly longer than thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Longer sidings are definitely the way to go!! Edit: My bad - should read "longer spurs are the way to go"...... 'sidings' are passing loops. As ever, we are two nations divided by a common language.... Edited July 14, 2014 by F-UnitMad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 You may have a point there.My bad: should have said "turnout".'point' .... 'turnout'... very good!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 The point is, this should now spur you on to finish the layout which should turnout rather well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 'point' .... 'turnout'... very good!! [ Sorry, function of Mr Gove and his drive to standard English in the education system will get it right! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 The point is, this should now spur you on to finish the layout which should turnout rather well. Very good, if I was still Secretary as opposed to retired Sec I would book you for the autumn programme! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Very good, if I was still Secretary as opposed to retired Sec I would book you for the autumn programme! Yes, I know you enjoyed the switch. Edited July 15, 2014 by 5050 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 The height of the layout is quite low being based upon a paste table and when putting the buildings on in mock up the roofs of buildings are more prominent than on Menasha layout. Spent a pleasant summer evening re roofing the small warehouse and adding strips of fine sandpaper to represent the felt roofing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Another sunny morning so per work session in the garden competing the roof and a first coat of black ink wash. I think this is a Classic City kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think we need to tie this down, before the topic gets spiked.We need a "groan" button, for sure.... C'mon now, we all need to calm down & pay attention now, there's some modelling going on. Roof details for US buildings raise an interesting question - what details can you add without over-doing it, & can you more-or-less put them on where you like, or is there a general 'pattern' as to where things like A/C units & skylights will go?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) We need a "groan" button, for sure.... C'mon now, we all need to calm down & pay attention now, there's some modelling going on. Roof details for US buildings raise an interesting question - what details can you add without over-doing it, & can you more-or-less put them on where you like, or is there a general 'pattern' as to where things like A/C units & skylights will go?? Jordan - looking at this, the answer is "wherever you can fit it in!" http://creativity103.com/collections/Industrial/slides/air_con_ducting.html Ducting and A/C units available from Walthers in US and Unit Models in UK Edited July 16, 2014 by shortliner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Roof details for US buildings raise an interesting question - what details can you add without over-doing it, & can you more-or-less put them on where you like, or is there a general 'pattern' as to where things like A/C units & skylights will go?? It can be very variable, based on the current and previous use of the building, its interior layout, and the geographic location. I'd suggest using Google Maps/Bing Maps to look at some overhead shots of similar buildings in a similar area and work from there. Something like this https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=40.391335,-79.869219&spn=0.002334,0.002401&t=h&z=19 which is a randomly picked area in Pittsburgh Adrian Edited July 16, 2014 by Adrian Wintle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
highpeak Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It would depend on what was happening inside the building. The roof of the main manufacturing building where I work has an incredible mixture of vents and pipes required by the manufacturing processes happening underneath that include a sterilizing plant and a structure that houses a big LNG-powered generator. Production lines get rearranged requiring different ducting arrangements, old stuff is often left in place since to remove it means filling in the hole in the roof, so over time you have a forest of fixtures on the roof. Adrian's suggestion is really the only way to go, at least for contemporary structures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions, the layout is based around the mid to late 1960s. I was wondering how many AC units there would be if any on the tenement buildings and if there would be any stacks etc on the roof. Will indeed look on some ariel views Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the suggestions, the layout is based around the mid to late 1960s. I was wondering how many AC units there would be if any on the tenement buildings and if there would be any stacks etc on the roof. Will indeed look on some ariel views There probably wouldn't be rooftop A/C on the tenement buildings. It is more likely that the (relatively) wealthier residents would have window A/C units. Stacks on the roof would depend a bit on what sort of heating there was (although I'd guess at electric baseboard heaters, so no stacks there). There might be vent stacks for the plumbing, though. Here is one that has been retrofitted with A/C units on the roof, but I have my doubts about whether they would have been present in the '60s (actually, on closer inspection through Streetview, there are a lot of window units). https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=40.402683,-79.87075&spn=0.001167,0.0012&t=h&z=20 Here is one with window units: https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=40.421095,-79.886361&spn=0.000003,0.0012&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.421095,-79.886361&panoid=GvFzxIJ1Kr_3pXXHpc43ng&cbp=12,99.72,,0,-18.4 Adrian Edited July 16, 2014 by Adrian Wintle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Had a look through some of Monon books this morning and in the period looking at the roof lines are remarkably clean with some roof hoppers, vents and a few stacks. There seem to be a good selection of roof mounted signage and painted signs on the walls of buildings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Jordan - looking at this, the answer is "wherever you can fit it in!" http://creativity103.com/collections/Industrial/slides/air_con_ducting.html Ducting and A/C units available from Walthers in US and Unit Models in UK Unit Models lightened my wallet somewhat at TVNAM 2013.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Dave usually manages to do the same thing to me when I see him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sunny day so outside on trestles working on clearances and hit number 1 within a few minutes. Canopy is too low and hits box car.back to the drawing board! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Frustrating day today, 1 step forward and 3 back - very hot day and nothing seemed to work - but tomorrow is another day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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