DavidH

Interesting thought, but if tracking of the few parcels I've seen is to be believed, most of the time they were/are just sitting in warehouses waiting to be moved to the next step in the chain.

Or ... we don't know and it doesn't tie up neatly, not if as reported earlier in the thread the two locos were the Class 71 and the Austerity. I'm confused where this "other site" got this information from, however.

What is wrong with people? I'm embarrassed just to be in the same forum as David. And deleting the words doesn't make us unsee it, David. You're still thinking it.

Strawman! Also, a totally unfair topic to introduce, given the myriad ways that people can be helping others at the moment, or might still be working, or might actually be unable/unwilling to leave home. It's not a game of "my way of getting through the crisis is better than yours", regardless of being irked that someone might still question your decision-making after you thought you'd explained yourself. David

I don't know what the current steampunk scene majors [sic] on, but ten years ago, if someone wasn't a Martian time-travelling explorer it was odds on they were something out of India, particularly the "3rd Foot & Mouth" people. There is still a website, although I am not sure they've done anything since 2012.

What a pity the disagree button was removed.

I had a long argument more than a decade ago about the "punk" bit, as UK steampunks back then (and as far as I can see, now) rather embraced the class-based version of steampunk, rather than the rebellious aspect. Witness the number of suddenly-titled people, the number of Majors, Sirs, Ladies, etc., or the number lady-/gentlemen-explorers. The other thing - the steampunks I knew ten years ago largely only bought stuff they could wear or carry to events. The number of people decorating their houses in the steampunk style was very small in number, small enough to be remarkable. Have things changed much? I don't know.

That happened years ago Eddie ... just not in railway modelling!

That is also what I thought. As "steampunk" events still, for instance, offer tea-duelling, which was a fun but limited idea first mooted over a decade ago, I am not sure that the market itself really knows either. Every steampunk I knew had a slightly different idea of what the scene meant, which can't be a helpful start for a marketing team! My guess is that Laurie's creations will find a more enthusiastic market in the fantasy wargaming/sci-fi sector than with steampunks, but it will be fascinating to see where they take the range, if the response is felt to be encouraging enough to commit to new mouldings rather than modded existing ones.

This lazy idea of sticking cogs on things and calling it steampunk was the reason I dropped out of steampunk after few years (having been there at the first three "Asylums" in Lincoln). But that was more than half a decade ago. Surely Hornby have their finger closer to the pulse than this?

Why should being born at the time have any bearing whatsoever on your ability to see a correct shape or other details in a model? Must be one of RMWeb's Handy Bluffer's Guide to Dismissing and Discrediting People With Ideas Different to Your Own:. #1 "rivet counter", #2 "why don't you risk your own money?", #3 "the wheels are the wrong width anyway", #4 "are you a customer?/you're not a member of the society", #6 "you weren't born at the time" ... Presumably quite a few people will, after receiving the model, rush to create unboxing videos/blog reviews, so there will be quite a few, as you have it, "armchair experts" with the model in front of them as they relax on their comfortable chair of choice whilst typing on a portable electronic device.

Anyone else want to write an essay pointing out how they were invited to an exclusive presentation and the rest of us weren't? Glad you had fun people!

Absolutely. And a sweeping edit to remove all the anger would help too.

If he works six days a week as a carer, and one at the autocoach, how does/did he have time to go to exhibitions?

If it meant to operate on layouts - can it go round corners?

It's all down to GDPR - he can't share his company's list with himself

All you've done with the maps is show that they are hosted on the EU website. Could we have the actual links to see if there is any paperwork with them that presents them as policy, rather than factual information to assist planners and decision makers?

Because it was never done - the money raised wasn't enough to pay for the requested changes, so it was simply refunded and the work never carried out?

On the other hand, according to "adb968008" a page back:

If there is tooling. Is there anything on the metal bases, linked to above, that proves they are what they are identified as?

The "David Jones" creditor line on the statement of affairs says nothing about director's anything - is that significant, or is it always assumed that because the named person is a director then it is a director's loan/guarantee?

Mentioned it a month ago: In short, Dave doesn't appear to have said anything about mortaging or remortgaging. Or at least, I can't find any statements to that effect.

Did these older orders make it into production? I think the J94 and class 71 were already in production, one commercial the other "crowdfunded" although backed up by batch orders from model shops, so by the time the King, 92 and then APT came along there was very little actually in production. I'm not sure where the Mermaids fit in this, I thought they were also a commercial release. In retrospect, it's perhaps a shame Dave had a entire part of the forum to play with exclusively until he'd properly proved himself, as the multiple threads and product announcements probably gave an appearance of a manufacturer with more clout and worth than he warranted at the time - and is obvious now. But hindsight is indeed wonderful and I'm sure a lot of people would do things differently now - especially the ones with multiple APT deposits in limbo.

Thanks Mike However, I posted a screenshot from it ages back ... my confusion was why someone would direct us to companies house when that was what we were discussing. It's this cursed writing thing, it doesn't do nuance very well!

Unfortunately I saw no image (and can still see nothing except an unclickable link)! It did seem like a strange thing to ask ...