BritishRail60062 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Perfect! I am glad they have painted the buffers . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Don't forget driver with feet on dash board! Like this ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Totally agree with you here Rob d2. Would love a standard Transrail 60 but I dont have Dcc and don't want sound. Unfortunate. can you buy one and sell the chip? sound chips tend to go for good money or speak to a local friendly model shop and see if they'd sell one without the dcc sound Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I guess you could do, but it's unwanted hassle .... That KMRC picture makes me think the upper grey and roof may be the same colour...hmmmm. Every bachy and Hornby release always has the upper grey looking too dark to my eyes, but I guess ex works it is that colour. But.....if a 3 TG 60 was pained in say, 1991, then got transrail decals in 94, it would be decals over a faded finish surely ? Thus would a 60 have every really looked like this ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Here is 60005 early on in her life, you can really see the different shades of grey: 60005, Old Oak Common, January 13th 1990. by Matt Taylor, on Flickr 60005 CPX920012M by Alistair Fyffe, on Flickr TransRail livery Arrival From Hope Street. by neilh156, on Flickr This must mean 090 in Coal cannot be too far away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted November 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2015 Lovely model but way out of my price range, I can't afford box-fresh models these days! All's not lost though, it's amazing with the Hornby '60' but with persistence you can actually still find good deals at shows on the original releases, got several of the 2006 Mainline grey Canisp's for good prices, £60 for a '60' is my target price, slap of Rail Grey and you've got the makings of a Transrail loco! I keep looking for a R2577 Mainline Triple grey, but not seen one for ages at a show or toy& train fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2015 I keep looking for a R2577 Mainline Triple grey, but not seen one for ages at a show or toy& train fair. Aww no, maybe it's just luck but I've got four of them now, all picked up from club stands and exhibitions or the little local swap/tat meets!! I've always noticed a big difference between the prices on eBay and the prices 'on the street' at shows, plus you can't beat physically digging your bargain out from under a mountain of other boxes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted November 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2015 In fairness Toy & Train Fairs around these parts aren't that good. Its very much luck on the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishRail60062 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I think to be honest the prices on eBay for pre-owned locomotives are nearly as high as the price of new locomotives, which is a no-no to me as I try to make my money go further . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'd be interested in seeing it in the flesh when you get it 37260, Can you post pics ? Please Shades of Grey: Yes the roof is a different shade of Grey to the upper bodyside band, but it's very close, and depending how the light catches it, difficult to capture with the camera - especially as it's like "Gloomy Hollow" outside ! Otherwise the model is very well finished etc. One issue. straight out of the box - NO lights at one end, but I suspect it's the body/chassis contacts, which should be easy to sort out. Edit: Lights now sorted ! 2 min job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveymills Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 thanks for the pictures. i have to admit, it is still hard to tell if they got it right or not ! in the last 2 pictures above it looks better, better than the 3rd to last one (with the Transrail logos) - i agree it could just be the light. In fact in the real life photo posted earlier of 60005 stood in front of the Motherwell tractor, the upper band looks also to be too dark. Any thoughts on the sound yet ? I am not a fan of SWD's sound files however I did think the sound on the previously released sound fitted 60s were pretty good (once the speaker was suitably sealed). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 thanks for the pictures. i have to admit, it is still hard to tell if they got it right or not ! >> The upper body band Grey is too dark, on real locos it's Flint Grey - which is a lighter shade of Grey than Hornby have used. Most Hornby 3T Grey R/F locos have the same issue, Lima/Vi Trains locos have more accurate shades. in the last 2 pictures above it looks better, better than the 3rd to last one (with the Transrail logos) - i agree it could just be the light. In fact in the real life photo posted earlier of 60005 stood in front of the Motherwell tractor, the upper band looks also to be too dark. >> I tried with difficulty using a camera to show the 2 shades of Grey, in some of the photos it could almost be a different loco !! Any thoughts on the sound yet ? I am not a fan of SWD's sound files however I did think the sound on the previously released sound fitted 60s were pretty good (once the speaker was suitably sealed). >> Em not that familiar with how real 60's sound , but it does sound a bit on the "tinny" side, there's also no auto brake dump on take off, or brakes on when stopping ! no worries - It's getting removed for a reblow ! For comparision a Dapol 56 I re-painted some time back, using Precision Paints, you'll note the upper body band is lighter than on the new 60, especially compared to the roof. Regards Ken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric709 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 wonder why Hornby decided to paint the cabside vents black...dont recall any TTG locos having them black (feel free to prove me wrong) chances of finding a bang on match for Hornby's rail grey slim I feel.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2015 . One issue. straight out of the box - NO lights at one end, but I suspect it's the body/chassis contacts, which should be easy to sort out. Edit: Lights now sorted ! 2 min job Wasn't the previous 60 - DBS red 60007 wired with a plug/socket to the cab? Edit - yes it was. Have they gone back to contacts? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Wasn't the previous 60 - DBS red 60007 wired with a plug/socket to the cab? Edit - yes it was. Have they gone back to contacts? Cheers, Mick Yes New Transrail 60 has 4 x brass contact strips on cab insert bases Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yes New Transrail 60 has 4 x brass contact strips on cab insert bases Such a shame. The plug arrangement is far more positive than the contact strips. My NMT HST has the contact strips and the rear lights in the power car are very temperamental. The plug arrangement on my R3271 Executive HST is much better however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted November 6, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2015 Wasn't the previous 60 - DBS red 60007 wired with a plug/socket to the cab? Edit - yes it was. Have they gone back to contacts? Cheers, Mick But Hornby DCC Sound models are 21 pin circuit boards. Whereas non-DCC so far have been 8 pin circuit boards. So maybe only the non-DCC sound 60's use the arrangement seen on the R3150 DBS 60 007? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Thanks for photos - I'm not entirely convinced. There's one on eBay without sound at £140 at present , the BR arrow looks a bit chunky but it might just be me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishRail60062 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I am pleased that Hornby have reverted back the contact strips in some ways because It makes it easier to fit drivers into the cab. As my 60007 was a pain to do with those wires taped into the roof and taking care not to rip them off when removing the cab module to fit a driver into the model . Having banana fingers doesn't exactly help matters either . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david12345 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Now at model railways direct for £159.99. Must be a slow seller. It's barely been out a month. No connection to business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Now at model railways direct for £159.99. Must be a slow seller. It's barely been out a month. No connection to business. Now sold out. That was quick! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david12345 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Now sold out. That was quick! Now a quick seller ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Hornby had a Black Friday deal for retailers, peeved Retail Shops who ordered earlier at higher price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Perfect! I am glad they have painted the buffers . As well as being painted black, the latest design allows the buffers to droop to odd angles ! They are now similar to class 50/56 buffers where a tiny C clip retains the shank/spring in the housing. On the original 60 version, the buffer shank had a splined ridge, the shank end being crimped to retain it, this stopped any droop to odd angles happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 My long-awaited 60090 in coal sector livery arrived today. I'm sure it's not supposed to look like this...!? Not to mention smaller, but nevertheless equally niggling defects such as misaligned buffers, detailing parts absent (handrails etc) and windscreen wipers mysteriously pointing skyward... I'm not sure where Hornby quality control were when this one left the production line... clearly fast asleep at a wild guess?! This must have left the factory in this state as there was no damage to any of the packaging whatsoever and arrived superbly packaged courtesy of the retailer. Come on Hornby, we understand the reasons why prices have risen in recent times, but if we are paying £140 for a model at least supply it in one piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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