YesTor Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I think it still looks the part. https://flic.kr/p/PdqjzK Sure, it's great when they manage to glue everything in straight! Not so hot when they don't... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFR Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I think it still looks the part. https://flic.kr/p/PdqjzK Certainly does there. Build quality aside though, the detail on the logos to the Class 60 does make me wish I'd asked for some of the squint branded wagons I got to be swapped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robf Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The Drax logos are certainly much better on the 60. DSCF9591 by robfrowen, on Flickr DSCF9593 by robfrowen, on Flickr DSCF9589 by robfrowen, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted November 21, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2016 Got my Class 60 Drax today. One buffer is completely missing. How on earth does this get past quality control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Got my Class 60 Drax today. One buffer is completely missing. How on earth does this get past quality control. Its a diesel loco made by Hornby, you are lucky it has got the right body on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 quality control only applies to kettles. Diesel and electrics get any old rubbish thrown out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) If those last two comments had been made about one of the more vocal manufacturers on rmweb, people would be up in arms, but because it's 'faceless' Hornby, it's fair game? I'm specifically thinking of the vitriol against people who legitimately commented about the Dapol 73 livery problems or the errors on the FTG SPA. I don't think Hornby can be singled out as D&E unfriendly (although I agree, they make their fair share of mistakes!). Guy Edited November 23, 2016 by lyneux 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 If those last two comments had been made about one of the more vocal manufacturers on rmweb, people would be up in arms, but because it's 'faceless' Hornby, it's fair game? I'm specifically thinking of the vitriol against people who legitimately commented about the Dapol 73 livery problems or the errors on the FTG SPA. I don't think Hornby can be singled out as D&E unfriendly (although I agree, they make their fair share of mistakes!). Guy When I buy a model of a buffet coach I expect to get a buffet coach not a buffet coach body with a TS roof and a TGS interior, maybe I am expecting too much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Its a diesel loco made by Hornby, you are lucky it has got the right body on it. Odd...my Class 60 did have something that looked like a Class 60 on it. Infact all of them looked like Class 60s. And all my Class 67's had something that looked like a Class 67's body one it! Hmmm... Immature comment hype? When I buy a model of a buffet coach I expect to get a buffet coach not a buffet coach body with a TS roof and a TGS interior, maybe I am expecting too much! Yes, since you were so sure about Hornby making Class 56's with a body of a Class 60 and bogies of a Class 50 and chassis of a Class 67 but called it a Class 56, then yes you are! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 If those last two comments had been made about one of the more vocal manufacturers on rmweb, people would be up in arms, but because it's 'faceless' Hornby, it's fair game? I'm specifically thinking of the vitriol against people who legitimately commented about the Dapol 73 livery problems or the errors on the FTG SPA. I don't think Hornby can be singled out as D&E unfriendly (although I agree, they make their fair share of mistakes!). Guy when they have continual livery problems and detail mistakes is it any wonder? Look at the recent 50026 model in NSE livery - a model with an RRP of £170 shouldn't have questions about the colours used for a prototype within the last 30 years for which there is plenty of reference photographs. Perhaps they looked at photos with different degrees of fading - there can be differences between ex-works and in traffic fading - but the colours should match up and the grey is too light for the blue and red they used. Admittedly its better than the previous attempt, but at £170!!! and what about the buffet coaches missing the roof vent toolings ... ah just chuck them out ... some mugs will pay £35 for them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 what about the buffet coaches missing the roof vent toolings ... ah just chuck them out ... some mugs will pay £35 for them! Which is the point I was making, which was obviously lost on our Hornby fan who seems to think Hornby can do no wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Hmmm... Immature comment hype? Yes, since you were so sure about Hornby making Class 56's with a body of a Class 60 and bogies of a Class 50 and chassis of a Class 67 but called it a Class 56, then yes you are! Please point to where I said about a 56 having all those different parts on, and you go on about me making immature comments! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I don't mind adding things to coaches or even diesel models to make them look correct, but when theyre hard, or impossible to replicate to add then that's just basically a kick in the teeth! NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 quality control only applies to kettles. Diesel and electrics get any old rubbish thrown out I don’t think that’s right. To give a couple examples, most A3s seem to have bent running plates and half the Black 5s seem to have domes glued on the wrong way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plarailfan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Historically, other than "bauxite" and grey wagons, liveries have changed fairly regularly on UK locomotives and stock (even the mainstream blue / grey era only lasted about 14 years - 1967 to 1981) Now, with open access and privatisation, many liveries have had very short lives indeed - thinking of National Power 59's and Jarvis 56's, Waterman Railways, Fragonset, etc. I expect in a few years, Drax will decide they need a fresh new livery on their biomass wagons, hopefully leading to a re-run of the Hornby models at a more realistic price.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2017 There is still plenty left at Hattons that are still full price so I wouldn't hold your breath. Doesn't look Hattons will be reducing them either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 There are probably plenty left because of the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 There is still plenty left at Hattons that are still full price so I wouldn't hold your breath. Doesn't look Hattons will be reducing them either. Give it time, unsold stock is not money in the bank ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Give it time, unsold stock is not money in the bank ! The original batch of class 14's gradually worked their way from over £100 down to £75. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2017 Give it time, unsold stock is not money in the bank ! Yes but did they pay for them? I was under the impression that Drax own them and Hattons is only distributing them. If that's the case, it's up to Drax and they dont seem to bothered by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted September 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2017 Probably small beer for Drax. Massively overpriced , if its taking up shelf space in Hattons , they will want shot . Models do eventually find their proper level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Yes but did they pay for them? I was under the impression that Drax own them and Hattons is only distributing them. If that's the case, it's up to Drax and they dont seem to bothered by it. If that's the case then Hatton's should get Drax to reduce the price of each wagon or have the option of sending the unsold stock back to Drax and let them deal with it. Those wagons are way overpriced and I just wouldn't pay that sort of money especially when you'll need up to 10 for a proper rake, it also put me off from purchasing Hornby's DRAX Class 60 which I would have liked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2017 If that's the case then Hatton's should get Drax to reduce the price of each wagon or have the option of sending the unsold stock back to Drax and let them deal with it. Those wagons are way overpriced and I just wouldn't pay that sort of money especially when you'll need up to 10 for a proper rake, it also put me off from purchasing Hornby's DRAX Class 60 which I would have liked. They may have signed a contract of sorts. I do hope they come down as I'd love a rake of these but they are close to $150NZD each and that's just too much to consider paying for one wagon, let alone a while rake of them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) The high price is mostly due to half of the batch being given away by Drax as corporate gifts - they have loaded the cost of these freebies onto those for sale. The simple maths of that will increase the selling price by a significant sum. There is also a promise by Drax that 10% of the profits will go to charity, so I wonder if there's an added premium there? Hattons will probably only making a few percent of the £83 as a handling fee and knowing the size of Hattons warehouse, they take up a relatively insignificant space for no real cost to them. It's not up to Hatton's to get the price reduced. In the whole scheme of things, the value of these wagons sitting on the shelf will be a miniscule percentage of Drax's finances. If anyone wants the price reducing, then why not contact Drax directly? Cheers, Mick Edited September 6, 2017 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) In the whole scheme of things, the value of these wagons sitting on the shelf will be a miniscule percentage of Drax's finances. Indeed, although thinking about it, the cost of these wagons to Drax was obviously 'significant' enough for them to conclude that they were unable/unwilling to swallow the cost of their corporate freebie percentage of the batch. When all is said and done these wagons are nice enough on an initial 'eye-candy' level, but beyond this I really don't see them as representing good value for money - the level of quality and detailing appears to be average at best, and the price not only premium, but eye-watering premium. I'm just relieved that they aren't a must for what I model. Good luck to those that purchased. Edited September 6, 2017 by YesTor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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