Fenman Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 A search for “Caledonian” didn’t throw up any results for a topic for the new sleeper equipment (at least, not for the last year - I lost the will to keep looking further back), so this seems the least-worst place to note a 6 month delay in the launch of the new Sleeper trains according to Business Traveler: https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2018/10/01/new-caledonian-sleeper-delayed-until-spring-2019/ My search skills are clearly rubbish - apologies if this is a duplicate. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) As the mk5 set control cabs have been designed as close as possible to be like a Class 68 cab; out of curiosity How fast would an 88 be able to shift a mk5 set in diesel mode, And what are the cab differences?The TPE Mk5 vehicles can only be hauled by an 88 at the moment. There are no controls on the cab desk of the Mk5 DT to operate pan up/down, no line light or VCB indicators etc. I am sure would be an easy enough add on in the future. Cheers Simon Edited October 2, 2018 by 87023Velocity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqLHFjUW4AAjFtk?format=jpg&name=large Interesting TPE Mk5As are carrying their EVN number as well as TOPS number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The TPE Mk5 vehicles can only be hauled by an 88 at the moment. There are no controls on the cab desk of the Mk5 DT to operate pan up/down, no line light or VCB indicators etc. I am sure would be an easy enough add on in the future. Cheers Simon I am guessing you mean class 68 Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2018 I am guessing you mean class 68 Simon I think Simon means that the Mk5's can only be hauled by an 88, but not pushed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) I think Simon means that the Mk5's can only be hauled by an 88, but not pushed.Correct, the mk5's can only work in push pull mode with a 68. With an 88 they can be hauled only (I believe the 88's don't have the TCMS/TMS control monitors fitted for the MK5 stock either for hauled mode). Cheers Simon Edited October 23, 2018 by 87023Velocity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted October 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2018 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqLHFjUW4AAjFtk?format=jpg&name=large Interesting TPE Mk5As are carrying their EVN number as well as TOPS number. I thought that was mandatory for new stock now, though the IETs appear to be exempt. I've seen EVNs presented in various ways, but not that way before. Interesting that the TOPS number is 5 digit. I would have assumed 6 digit like multiple unit coach numbers are now. Is that one of the driving trailers? If not, the 96 code for "special trailers" would seem an odd choice, if I've interpreted that correctly. (I'm not sure I've seen that used on driving trailers in other countries. It's not something I've paid a huge amount of attention to but I would have though it more logical to use the same code as the other coaches in the rake). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 there appears to be a rake of these coaches parked along the siding at longsight depot nearest to Hyde road giving a good clear view look very smart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2018 I've posted this on the TPE - Class 68 - Update thread but thought it might be useful to add here too; there're are a couple of workings in the schedule for tomorrow (19th December) which *might*, if they run, be the first TPE class 68s and Mk 5 coaches trips across the Pennines and back. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O67706/2018/12/19/advanced http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O67677/2018/12/19/advanced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2018 Further to my post yesterday, here is 68028 Lord President taking the first TransPennine Express Nova 3 set to cross the Pennines by rail passing through Huddersfield on 19th December. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2018 Passing through Huddersfield, with the driving trailer now leading, the Nova 3 set and 68028 worked back across the Pennines during the late afternoon of the 19th December as 5P60, 16.01 York to Manchester International Depot. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 That conventional drawgear on the DT is unfortunate looking, I'm mildly surprised that the end next to the loco doesn't have a gangway (though it makes perfect sense when you think about it), and the lack of yellow ends is going to take some getting used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 That driving trailer would frighten a police horse !!! (The loco's not much better). Brit15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 That conventional drawgear on the DT is unfortunate looking, I'm mildly surprised that the end next to the loco doesn't have a gangway (though it makes perfect sense when you think about it), and the lack of yellow ends is going to take some getting used to. Bit like a Mk4 TOE in the respect of no gangway on the loco end. Think they look smart as a full consist, not necessarily a huge fan of the livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Without wishing to ignite whole yellow ends controversy again, why have they gone for black on the driving trailer rather than continue the blue round like on the loco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 That conventional drawgear on the DT is unfortunate looking Sensible though, when you consider that the thing most likely to be coupled to that end is Longsight's pilot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) Is it just me or do's the driving trailer look as if there is a bit missing? Plus who will be the first ones to bring out a mk5 coach? Edited December 20, 2018 by stock_2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Is it just me or do's the driving trailer look as if there is a bit missing? Yes, I was thinking the same. The lack of an external bogie frame still looks odd to me, and some Mk3 style underframe fairing would have made a better look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Sensible though, when you consider that the thing most likely to be coupled to that end is Longsight's pilot. well yeah, it's clearly not there for styling purposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted December 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2018 Anyone managed to get a peek through the windows? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted December 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2018 Bit like a Mk4 TOE in the respect of no gangway on the loco end. So far as I recall, like Mk 4's the inter-coach couplings are non-standard so there has to be a definite end-coach, in which case you might as well leave the gangway off. In some ways it's more like an unpowered multiple unit than a rake of coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 So far as I recall, like Mk 4's the inter-coach couplings are non-standard so there has to be a definite end-coach, in which case you might as well leave the gangway off. In some ways it's more like an unpowered multiple unit than a rake of coaches. Not unlike a MkII derived Gatwick set, in its way.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 well yeah, it's clearly not there for styling purposes. At least both ends of the train are equally ugly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2018 the old engineering adage of "if it looks right it will be fine" comes to mind as these look awful! Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 The styling of the locomotive ends wasn't exactly wonderful, but that of the driving trailer has to take the prize for being truly awful. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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