RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted November 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Hi all, This morning we received the final CADs for the OO Warwells which we're pleased to share with you. We're very happy with how they're looking so far, with all variations in fittings, bogies etc covered. Our research for these has included our own measurement and photo survey of surviving Warwell wagons alongside original Ministry of Supply drawings and a variety of images and information from other parties. The next stage with these is the development of tooling which will start very soon. As ever, I'll put any updates we have here as soon as I have them. If you're visiting the 70th Anniversary at our Hub over this weekend (see the separate thread!) we'll have higher res copies and full 3D CADs visible alongside development work on our past and present projects. Let us know what you think! A full list of variations, liveries, running numbers etc is available at www.hattons.co.uk/warwell . The eagle-eyed amongst you will have noticed that all the OO variations have had colour layouts added too. Anyway, enough from me, I'll let the CADs do the talking....Cheers,Dave Edited November 9, 2016 by Hatton's Dave 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Considering the number of variants and that these are bogie wagons, the prices seem quite reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Hi all, This morning we received the final CADs for the OO Warwells which we're pleased to share with you. We're very happy with how they're looking so far, with all variations in fittings, bogies etc covered. Our research for these has included our own measurement and photo survey of surviving Warwell wagons alongside original Ministry of Supply drawings and a variety of images and information from other parties. The next stage with these is the development of tooling which will start very soon. As ever, I'll put any updates we have here as soon as I have them. If you're visiting the 70th Anniversary at our Hub over this weekend (see the separate thread!) we'll have higher res copies and full 3D CADs visible alongside development work on our past and present projects. Let us know what you think! A full list of variations, liveries, running numbers etc is available at www.hattons.co.uk/warwell . The eagle-eyed amongst you will have noticed that all the OO variations have had colour layouts added too. Anyway, enough from me, I'll let the CADs do the talking.... Cheers, Dave ww-001-006.jpg ww-008-010.jpg ww-011-012.jpg ww-014-020.jpg ww-001-006 side.jpg ww-001-006 top.jpg ww-001-006 details.jpg ww-001-006 end.jpg ww-014-020 bogie.jpg Any chance of these in N Gauge to go with the other 2 scales,I would have thought they would be very popular? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 . IF anyone wants to know how tanks were transported during WW2 they should look for a secondhand VHS video called "MT 8 Tanks by Train" - ALTHOUGH THIS SHOWS WAR FLATS BEING USED. This was a series of short wartime instructional films from the IWM (Imperial War Museum) archives released ONLY on VHS by Beulah Video. Beulah did various collections in the "MT" series, but all seem unavailable now. (IF anyone finds a copy of "Sapper Tasks" for sale, please let me know.) The video contained short films showing the preparation of tanks (Covenators) for transport and the loading by fixed end ramp, and loading/unloading by a ramp wagon in detail. There is a short film at the end about preparing and loading Churchills (Mark III ???) showing the removal of the side ventilators and just how tight the tolerances were. Whilst NOT about Warwells, almost all of it will help anyone trying to model their usage in WW2. I understand that the basic films are available to view at the IWM (by appointment). . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted November 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2016 Hi all,Just to keep you all in the loop with these. We've now approved the CAD designs for the OO gauge Warwells and the tooling has been started. With these completed, the O gauge CADs are now under development. Work on Warwells in Widnes (see what I did there?) is now concentrated on the colour layouts, and its these we could do with your assistance on. We are looking for some specific info if anyone has it: 1. War Department Registration numbers and corresponding running numbers. 2. Build locations for the wagons, we have the running numbers that were built by the SR but we have no indications which were built by Gloucester and which by Head Wrightson. 3. A list of original running numbers and what they became (MODA or BR numbers) If you can fill a few gaps for us, please let me know either here or via email at info@hattons.co.uk Cheers,Dave 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_B Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 As the latest variants are used to transport Warrior AFVs (which have to be lifted above the height of a platform to get them in gauge) are these being supplied with the Warrior transport ramps? Ian_B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Hello Dave Great news that Hattons' have commissioned this often asked for modern wagon. I hope to be purchasing several when they hit the shop next year. Could you confirm for me please whether the 1990's versions will include the widened decks above the Gloucester GPS bogies which are a feature of all the 1990's refurbished wagons? Best Regards Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadmill Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) I have ordered a couple already. Do Hattons plan to do post war Warflats too? Edited December 23, 2016 by Leadmill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2016 I have ordered a couple already. Do Hattons plan to do Warflats too? Bachmann will be introducing one next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2016 Bachmann will be introducing one next year.I think he means the modern warflat not the earlier fishbelly one Bachmann is doing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadmill Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Paul has the right of it, I should have been more clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Hattons Dave Posted January 17, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hi all, It certainly wasn't Blue Monday in the office yesterday as we received the First EPs for the OO gauge Warwells. No less than seven have arrived with us showcasing all the tooling options for the vehicles. We're happy with the results so far although please note that no rivet detailing has been added to the sides as of yet - this will appear on the second EPs. For those interested, each 'standard' wagon weighs in at 100g as they have a die-cast chassis with those with BR's bogie bolster fittings tipping the scales at a couple of grams more. As ever, we're keen to hear your thoughts. Until then I'll let the pictures do the talking - there's more of these on our main site Here. (The Sherman V Firefly in the final image isn't included, but seeing as we had a Revell kit to hand it was hard to resist building one )Cheers,Dave 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 Looks good so far, I'll be after a couple of the modern ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hoping Santa might bring me one each of the WD GWR. LNER & LMS ones, I too have a Sherman waiting to be loaded on, and a Q1 at the ready to pull them. Could do with an original WD Hunslet Austerity to shunt them in the run up to DDay *cough* hint *cough* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I take it you are going to remove the vac cylinder from the modern version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hello Dave Thanks for showing us your Warwell samples. They do look very, very good However, the decks are not yet correct for the post refurbish versions with the Gloucester bogies. I'm not able to post photos from this device, but have a look at Paul Bartletts' site to compare photos of Warwells from the 80's and onwards. The deck has been widened to include protection over the buffers too. Best Regards Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted January 17, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hi all, a few points thus far: However, the decks are not yet correct for the post refurbish versions with the Gloucester bogies. I'm not able to post photos from this device, but have a look at Paul Bartletts' site to compare photos of Warwells from the 80's and onwards. The deck has been widened to include protection over the buffers too. Hi Andy. Although the physical difference is minimal, adding the second deck style would have significantly increased the sales price as a second chassis would be required to accommodate the strengthening bars, so this is something that we haven't been able to include. I take it you are going to remove the vac cylinder from the modern version? Hi Brian. Yes! The vac pipe itself will remain (as the vehicles remained through piped) but the erroneously fitted Vac Cylinder won't be present. As the latest variants are used to transport Warrior AFVs (which have to be lifted above the height of a platform to get them in gauge) are these being supplied with the Warrior transport ramps? Ian_B Hi Ian. There's no plans at the moment to produce these as the post-1970s Warflats are used more commonly for other military equipment so it isn't currently viable for us to tool them up. Cheers,Dave 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 . I have been told that this tracklayer (Southern Region, possibly Wimbledon, with late crest Q1) ; http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-bob-hind-engineering-4L.jpg Is a modification of a War Well - can people confirm this ? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 . I have been told that this tracklayer (Southern Region, possibly Wimbledon, with late crest Q1) ; http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-bob-hind-engineering-4L.jpg Is a modification of a War Well - can people confirm this ? . Warwells were used as the basis for several rail cranes, some of which are in this collection http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtwinjibcrane Warwells had many different post war uses including viaduct inspection http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brviaductinspection Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hi Dave those look smashing - many thanks for sharing That screw link coupling looks like a solid moulding - can I ask how a tension lock coupling fares with that in place pelase? Kind regards Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 These are coming along nice and quickly. I can well believe end of 2017 delivery date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hmmmmmmm. Very tasty and tempting. Better get some reading done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Appears to be DCC Concepts flex bullhead track. Flanges in closeup appear to be just skimming the inside chair tops. Bumpy ride? From pix of samples it might run a bit smoother on the PECO version. Or change the wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
217 RIVER FLESK Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 . I have been told that this tracklayer (Southern Region, possibly Wimbledon, with late crest Q1) ; http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00000-bob-hind-engineering-4L.jpg Is a modification of a War Well - can people confirm this ? . Is it me, or is this picture reversed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 These look great, without wishing to sound like a broken record I hope the bolster and flat deck option come out in 7mm as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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