Garethp8873 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 BTW... a future livery perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 The added superstructures are particularly impressive. Excellent-looking wagons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Very, very nice. I can see several making their way to my place. Well done Hattons. Please have a think though about the modern refurbished version too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 These are photographs of some of the prototypes Hattons have announced (more are to follow) http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwellbogiebolster/e8d555a37 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwellbogiebolster/e8d555a36 One of the refurbished ones, when newly done http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell/e8d555a38 The KWA with yellow end is as they are working now. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Woo! Looking forward to adding one (and then probably 2 more from the other big 4 companies) to Wartime Sussex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hatton's also have suggested the various Airfix vehicle kits to put on these. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 It would depend which Airfix kit. Some of them date from the 60s and are neither detailed nor accurate (the Churchill, Crusader, Sherman and Lee/Grant all have serious faults). The modern vehicles (include WWII light tanks) they took over from J&B and the Cromwell kit are fine. Matchbox did a range of 1/76th British kits, including a Firefly and Comet which are ok. These now appear under Revell label (who do 1/72nd kits too, so be aware). Fujimi have some UK tanks in their range like a Valentine and Matilda and some US types which could be modified for UK use (though not the M36 nor the M3 half track). There are various resin and white metal kit suppliers covering other tanks but these will require a bit more work. Oxford Diecast have a lot of UK military vehicles out there now and will be following up with Churchills and Shermans. These require no work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2017 I have no interest in these, wrong era etc, but have to say they do look damn nice! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 These do look fantastic - trying to think of an excuse to get the one loaned to the GWR for my 1947 mid-Cornwall layout! Does anyone know if military hardware was still returning from the Continent in 1947 and might have come through Falmouth? And were Warwells used for civilian vehicles at this time, the likes of traction engines for eg? Any thoughts much appreciated! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2017 I've been looking what would be carried in the 50's and 60's as I suspect Centurion is too wide and found the Charioteer tank, basically an up gunned with new turret Cromwell. Milicast do a 1/76 version http://www.milicast.com/shop/product.php?productid=2745&cat=15&page=4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2017 S and M models do a 1/76 plastic kit of the Alvis Stalwart that will make a suitable load http://www.sandmmodels.co.uk/shop/new-arrivals/ Similar in construction to the JB/Airfix Bedford MK (clear plastic cab) and with some etched components. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) I've been looking what would be carried in the 50's and 60's as I suspect Centurion is too wide and found the Charioteer tank, basically an up gunned with new turret Cromwell. Milicast do a 1/76 version http://www.milicast.com/shop/product.php?productid=2745&cat=15&page=4 Centurion would be too wide however Comet tanks still existed in the 50s and you also have Avenger tank destroyers http://www.milicast.com/shop/search.php?mode=search&page=1 Me personally, I will be using rule number 1 with the layout having a military vehicle museum in one part full of reenactors. There will be steam days with a USA tank popping by pulling Warwell and Warflat train. Edited June 15, 2017 by JSpencer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Isn't the Comet coming on the Bachmann Warflat? I decided to go for different loads for the Warwells Edited June 15, 2017 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hi, For some reason, I hadn't realised that the later 2000's style wagons were being done, but now I've seen the photos, a pair have been ordered, as they do look very nice! Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Isn't the Comet coming on the Bachmann Warflat? I decided to go for different loads for the Warwells Maybe. They said they will be using 2 different types of Cromwell tank based on those at Bovington. But they have 1 Cromwell and 1 Comet. Technically they could do the Cromwell as is and then a Cromwell with an F type hull that was used on the Comet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanem44 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Just got the email stating that these are soon expected from Hattons. Really, they look great. I preordered three for my soon to be Minehead (or at least condensed) Minehead layout. My wife got me an S15 Wartime black engine for my Birthday, so I will likely run that with them, as it is "on-loan" to the GWR. Minehead was a tank training area on the coast, so having tanks offloaded there would be pretty accurate I imagine. I purchased two airfix Cromwells and one Sherman. The models seem decent. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanem44 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 As another aside, Oxford models is releasing two die cast 1:76 tank models in the future. A Churchill is slated for this month and a Sherman for later this year. I imagine these would be perfect for those who are adverse to building the airfix models. Oxfords other items seem to be fairly detailed and with a little matt varnish and weathering would look great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted June 15, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hi all,Thanks for the comments! Its great to see these are getting a lot of attention. With many of you looking at the images on the website I couldn't resist uploading more of the higher-res versions on here to go with those posted yesterday. As ever, click the thumbnails for BIGGER images. For full details, please check our Main Listings Here. Cheers, Dave 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Nice, really impressed with these. It's going to be hard to resist buying the LMS ones. Alex 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Review in the next Model Rail (pub June 29) and Dave has even given us one to give as a competition prize. (CJL) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2017 These do look fantastic - trying to think of an excuse to get the one loaned to the GWR for my 1947 mid-Cornwall layout! There was a turn from Hackney Yard to Tavistock Junction I believe Ben. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) These are photographs of some of the prototypes Hattons have announced (more are to follow) http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwellbogiebolster/e8d555a37 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwellbogiebolster/e8d555a36 One of the refurbished ones, when newly done http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell/e8d555a38 The KWA with yellow end is as they are working now. Paul Nearly but not quite Paul As I've said previously Hattons have NOT tooled these fine wagons to represent the Warwells as they appear in the 2000s and beyond. They lack the widened decks above the bogies which appear in all photos of them in use at present. Also missing the plates protecting the buffers. They were altered presumably to enable them to carrier Warrior tracked vehicles. Some but not all now also have cradles fitted to enable Warriors to be carried higher up, still within the loading gauge, but so at not to foul station platforms. They do look great though, fine up to 1990's Edited June 15, 2017 by KDG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hi, For some reason, I hadn't realised that the later 2000's style wagons were being done, but now I've seen the photos, a pair have been ordered, as they do look very nice! Simon Simon, they don't quite represent the wagons as they are now, see post 173. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted June 15, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hi all,To clarify, the modifications to the 2000s wagons would have required wholly new chassis and deck toolings with all models currently produced sharing the same single tooling for these elements. This would in effect make the 2000s wagons a whole separate project, sharing only the GPS bogies with the rest of the Warwell tooling. Whilst this was investigated, this would have almost doubled the selling price on all of the wagons so it was something we couldn't do. Cheers,Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Is there any possibilty of seeing the inscriptions on the sides of the Warwells at all Dave? Also could you tell me why Hattons have done the MS.1 model in one colour scheme and Oxford Rail in another...? My knowledge on Warwells isn't that good so could you please explain why this is? Edited June 15, 2017 by Garethp8873 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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